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Reserve Bank starts long awaited interest rate cuts, and is forecasting further cuts before the end of the year. It also now sees annual inflation falling to just 2.3% by the end of this quarter

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Reserve Bank starts long awaited interest rate cuts, and is forecasting further cuts before the end of the year. It also now sees annual inflation falling to just 2.3% by the end of this quarter
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The Reserve Bank (RBNZ) has CUT the Official Cash Rate (OCR) to 5.25%, down from the 5.50% level it has been on for over a year.

And there's likely to be more cuts before the end of the year.

In market reaction, the Kiwi dollar dropped to US60.1 cents from US60.8c prior to the announcement. Immediate wholesale interest rate responses were fairly muted, with swap rates dropping around 2-3 basis points. Some of the big banks were quick off the mark with mortgage rate cuts in response too.

In its latest Monetary Policy Statement (MPS) the RBNZ is forecasting the OCR will have been cut at least one more time before 2024 is finished - and likely twice. More cuts are expected across 2025, with the OCR forecast to finish next year well under 4%.

In addition, the RBNZ has sharply moved down its inflation forecasts. It now expects inflation will easily move back into its targeted range in the current quarter. It sees annual inflation being 2.3% by the end of the September quarter.

The RBNZ now sees the country have another recession (as defined by two consecutive negative quarters of GDP contraction). It is forecasting that for the June quarter GDP will have shrunk by 0.5%, to be followed by a -0.2% outcome in the September quarter. If that all comes to pass it will mean we will have had negative GDP growth in six out of eight quarters.

The RBNZ's house price forecasts have also had a haircut. In May the central bank was forecasting house price growth of 2.3% for this calendar year. Now in the latest forecasts the RBNZ is expecting house price growth of just 0.1% for this year. It forecasts that in calendar year 2025 there will be a recovery, and prices will grow by 4.8%. This, however, is slightly lower than the May forecast, which was for 5.4% growth in 2025.

The darkest time

RBNZ Governor Adrian Orr said "the darkest period" was where the economy was right now.

Given the above, perhaps not surprisingly the RBNZ has also increased its pick of peak unemployment. Previously it expected the rate to reach 5.1%. Now it sees unemployment peaking at 5.4% in March next year. As of June the actual rate of unemployment was 4.6%.

The latest forecasts from the RBNZ are a big about-turn by the central bank.

The previous set of forecasts issued by the RBNZ were in the extremely 'hawkish' MPS issued in May. These forecasts had actually given a 60% chance of another HIKE in the OCR up from 5.5% to 5.75%, while cuts were not forecast till the second half of 2025. In addition the annual CPI inflation rate had not been forecast to get back into the targeted 1% to 3% range till the final quarter of this year.

Consensus reached

In the record of the meeting of the RBNZ's Monetary Policy Committee, the RBNZ said the Committee observed that the balance of risks has progressively shifted since the May Monetary Policy Statement.

"With a broad range of indicators suggesting the economy is contracting faster than anticipated, the downside risks to output and employment that were highlighted in July have become more apparent. Members were also concerned about avoiding unnecessary near-term instability in output and employment given the evolution of recent indicators," the RBNZ said.

The committee members noted that monetary policy "will need to remain restrictive for some time" to ensure that domestic inflationary pressures continue to dissipate. The RBNZ says committee members reached a consensus for the cut.

"The pace of further easing will thus be conditional on the Committee’s confidence that pricing behaviour is continuing to adapt to a low-inflation environment and that inflation expectations remain anchored around the 2% target."

Ahead of Wednesday's announcements three of the big five banks, namely BNZ, ASB and Kiwibank, had been calling for an immediate cut.

Also ahead of the announcements, financial markets had been pricing in a two-thirds chance of a cut on Wednesday, with two cuts priced in by October and more than three cuts by the end of 2024.

This is the statement from the Reserve Bank:

New Zealand’s annual consumer price inflation is returning to within the Monetary Policy Committee’s 1 to 3 percent target band. Surveyed inflation expectations, firms’ pricing behaviour, headline inflation, and a variety of core inflation measures are moving consistent with low and stable inflation. 

Economic growth remains below trend and inflation is declining across advanced economies.  Some central banks have begun reducing policy interest rates. Imported inflation into New Zealand has declined to be more consistent with pre-pandemic levels. 

Services inflation remains elevated but is also expected to continue to decline, both at home and abroad, in line with increased spare economic capacity.  Consumer price inflation in New Zealand is expected to remain near the target mid-point over the foreseeable future. 

The Committee agreed to ease the level of monetary policy restraint by reducing the OCR to 5.25 percent. The pace of further easing will depend on the Committee’s confidence that pricing behaviour remain consistent with a low inflation environment, and that inflation expectations are anchored around the 2 percent target. 

Summary of Monetary Policy Committee meeting:

The Monetary Policy Committee discussed recent economic and financial developments and their implications for monetary policy in New Zealand.

The Committee noted that the weakening in domestic economic activity observed in the July Monetary Policy Review has become more pronounced and broad-based. Headline inflation has declined, and business inflation expectations have returned to around 2 percent at medium- and longer-term horizons. Committee members agreed that monetary policy restraint can now begin to ease. The pace of loosening will depend on the extent to which price-setting behaviour continues to adapt to lower inflation and inflation expectations remain well anchored to the target mid-point.

Global growth remains below trend across advanced economies. Growth in China has been softer than expected, due to a depressed property market and weak consumer demand. While US growth has been firm, some indicators show emerging weakness. Recent volatility in global asset markets reflects nervousness about US economic prospects, geopolitical risks, and the outlook for international trade policy. 

The Committee noted that global inflation has continued to decline but remains elevated in some parts of the services sector in many countries. The Committee noted that some central banks have recently begun cutting policy interest rates, reflecting lower core inflation, weaker activity, and softer labour markets. In this respect, New Zealand’s economic activity and near-term inflation indicators now resemble those in countries in which central banks have started cutting policy rates.

While official economic statistics have evolved in line with expectations in the May Monetary Policy Statement, a broad range of high-frequency indicators point to a material weakening in domestic economic activity in recent months. These include various survey measures of business activity, electronic card transactions, vehicle traffic, house sales, filled jobs, and job vacancies. These indicators collectively provide a consistent signal that the economy contracted in recent months. The output gap is now assessed to be more negative than was assumed in the May Monetary Policy Statement, indicating increased spare capacity.

The Committee discussed possible reasons for the current economic weakness. Alongside restrictive monetary policy, an earlier or larger impact of tighter fiscal policy could be constraining domestic demand. Falling net migration may also be playing a role. The Committee noted that measurement challenges, including methodological changes by Statistics New Zealand in the national accounts, are creating additional uncertainty around the composition and likely persistence of this weakness.

The Committee discussed recent developments in the labour market. The June quarter data suggest that employment growth has slowed, with declines in private sector jobs, hours worked, and wage growth. The impact of government spending restraint and public sector job losses are expected to materialise in further weakening in employment growth over coming quarters.

In discussing fiscal policy, the Committee noted that government expenditure is declining as a share of the economy, with contractionary impacts already felt and expected to continue. However, whether tax cuts will boost consumption is more uncertain. While tax cuts could stimulate demand, it is also possible that households might be more cautious about spending in the current economic environment.

The Committee discussed global and domestic financial conditions. Weaker economic data globally have prompted markets to price in lower policy rates for the rest of the year, pushing down sovereign yields in most advanced economies. While domestic financial conditions remain restrictive, they have loosened over recent months. Market expectations for the forward path of the Official Cash Rate (OCR) have contributed to lower wholesale and borrowing rates, along with some depreciation in the nominal exchange rate. The Committee also noted that more households are choosing shorter pricing tenors, meaning that further reductions in mortgage interest rates will flow through to lower household interest costs relatively quickly.

The Committee noted that while credit remains available, demand for credit is weak. This provides a further signal of soft economic activity. High interest rates, sluggish housing market activity and low investment intentions have curbed demand for credit. The agriculture sector has also paid down debt, curbing credit demand.

The Committee considered risks to the financial system. With elevated debt servicing costs and weak economic conditions, some households and businesses are experiencing financial stress. The Committee noted that banks had tightened lending standards in recent years, increased loan loss provisions and were well capitalised, making the financial system more resilient. Non-performing loans have increased from a year ago but remain relatively low by historical standards, and banks are well positioned to support borrowers. In this environment, the Committee agreed that there is no material trade-off between meeting its inflation objectives and maintaining financial system stability.

The Committee discussed inflation developments. Inflation fell considerably in the June quarter, due mostly to lower tradables inflation, while domestic inflation declined in line with expectations. Members were encouraged that surveyed business inflation expectations have returned to around 2 percent at medium- and longer-term horizons. All measures of core inflation have fallen and the components of CPI that are sensitive to monetary policy have declined further. Together with the weaker high-frequency indicators of economic activity, these developments provide the Committee with more confidence that headline inflation is returning to the target band in the September 2024 quarter.

The Committee discussed upside risks to the inflation outlook. The persistence of domestic inflation and the pace at which price-setting behaviour will adjust to a low-inflation environment remain uncertain. Members noted the possibility that firms might adjust prices asymmetrically – changing prices quickly when inflation was high and rising, but more slowly when inflation is falling. The Committee noted uncertainty around the outlook for potential output, given weak productivity growth. If potential output grows more slowly than currently assumed, there will be less spare capacity and less downward pressure on domestic inflation.

Furthermore, ongoing geopolitical and trade tensions and the global reshoring of manufacturing activities could lead to higher import prices for New Zealand. Members also discussed the significant rise in global shipping costs, caused by ongoing disruptions to Red Sea and Panama Canal freight routes. Given New Zealand’s relatively limited trade through these routes, the effect on shipping costs for New Zealand imports are assumed to be more moderate, and feed through to import prices with a lag.

The Committee discussed downside risks to the outlook. Members agreed that a weaker global economy, particularly in China, could dampen demand for New Zealand exports and reduce exporters’ earnings. More subdued global demand could also lead to lower import prices.

Members also noted that domestic inflation could fall more quickly than projected if wage- and price-setting behaviour adjusts more rapidly to a low inflation environment. For example, headline inflation will fall sustainably back to the target mid-point more quickly if price and wage setters adjust more to expected future inflation rather than to past inflation.

The Committee discussed the reasons why inflation has been outside of the target range and the expected timeframe for inflation to return to the 2 percent target mid-point. Members noted the lingering effects on inflation from demand effects of monetary and fiscal stimulus, pandemic-related disruptions to supply, increased commodity prices and shipping costs from geopolitical tension, severe weather impacts on local food prices, and low productivity.

Conditional on the information available, the Committee felt that the OCR track in the projection reflected its view on the policy strategy that would best deliver on its remit. The Committee noted that monetary policy settings are consistent with annual headline CPI inflation remaining within the target band near the 2 percent mid-point over the forecast horizon.

The Committee observed that the balance of risks has progressively shifted since the May Monetary Policy Statement. With a broad range of indicators suggesting the economy is contracting faster than anticipated, the downside risks to output and employment that were highlighted in July have become more apparent. Members were also concerned about avoiding unnecessary near-term instability in output and employment given the evolution of recent indicators.

In discussing the appropriate stance of monetary policy, the Committee noted that recent indicators give confidence that inflation will return sustainably to target within a reasonable time frame. With headline CPI inflation expected to return to the target band in the September quarter and growing excess capacity expected to support a continued decline in domestic inflation, the Committee agreed there was scope to temper the extent of monetary policy restraint.

However, members noted that monetary policy will need to remain restrictive for some time to ensure that domestic inflationary pressures continue to dissipate. The pace of further easing will thus be conditional on the Committee’s confidence that pricing behaviour is continuing to adapt to a low-inflation environment and that inflation expectations remain anchored around the 2 percent target. On Wednesday August 14, the Committee reached a consensus to reduce the Official Cash Rate by 25 basis points to 5.25 percent.

The August Monetary Policy Statement is here.

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Why trying to read the crystal ball when you can simply watch the banks move their rates?

(NZD lower for longer BTW)

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Good time to be long USD assets

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Commercial real estate estate you reckon? 

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Absolutely not. Wfh has killed that.

USD or USD equities. ‘Murica

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Absolutely not. Wfh has killed that.

USD or USD equities. ‘Murica

Similar views as the IFA community 

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In NSW the Govt has ordered a return to the office for all public servants, for 5 days a week.  WFH is on the way out.  So Australian commercial real estate is the place to be.  

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Well the quality of public servants will drop even further. WFH is offered by most progressive and desirable workplaces. 

Family member in AUS does 3 days in the Office, less if she wants. Was recently in NZ for 3 weeks to see us and WFH. And yes she worked alright, impressively enough to avoid a recent big round or redundancies. Aus corporate, not PS. 

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Agreed, WFH options opens up the job market to a greater audience due to the lifestyle it affords. I work alongside many women with young kids who are able to balance their days with pickups/dropoffs etc and they work harder than many others that are in the office more often than not by choice.

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I agree WFH allows so much more flexibility and productivity. I'm usually on longer wfh than I am at the office and it will definitely help when my wife is back at work and we are juggling picking up the twins from daycare. 

 

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In NSW the Govt has ordered a return to the office for all public servants, for 5 days a week. WFH is on the way out. So Australian commercial real estate is the place to be.

It has done no such thing. 

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the FED will cut rates too. I am guessing that's why RBNZ isn't too  bothered too much. 

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Not before November they won’t. They don’t want to be seen to be interferring in an election year.

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Of course they will cut Frank..election be dammed

 

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Strong convention not to do it, unless a real emergency.

Can you imagine the MAGA/stop the steal crowd reaction?

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With the way the polls are tracking I suspect a pre election cut would serve the FED members well....not that it will make much difference to the economy.

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10% by year end, guaranteed!

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Boom I called it. My next prediction is the OCR will go down another 75bps by this time next year.

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Sure you did Zwifty...

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Yeah nah 

by Zwifter | 12th Aug 24, 10:31am

Easier to predict based on the person than what the decision should be. The decision should be to cut rates, that's pretty obvious its only the RBNZ standing in the way. If they don't officially cut rates, banks are doing it anyway so more cuts coming before September. The real question is why are we paying these people so much money when they are not really in control of anything ?

by TronMVP | 12th Aug 24, 4:31pm

@RP

I think Zwifter was saying it's a 100% sure thing that the OCR won't drop on Wednesday, as it is Adrian Orr in charge

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Nice cherry picking. Find the other 8 posts before that I said it will cut August. You interpreted that post wrong anyway.

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Not cherry picking, the date shows it was likely your most recent comment about the OCR and the words "ïf they don't officially cut rates" reads like someone hedging their bets. It was a change of tune from your previous comments.

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Told youse

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DGM’s in the foetal position right now.

10% by Christmas!!

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Adrian clearly hasn’t read the scrolls.

NZD down, oil prices up, inflation up and 10% by Xmas ?

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Rock star Adrian is leading the pack! Brace for his negative interest rates any minute.

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You forgot the mammoth in the room - high energy prices seen over the last couple of weeks will push up business costs in Q3 and perhaps Q4.

Side note: Market participants are going to pay millions to Methanex and NZAS to literally do nothing and idle their facilities so as to divert the gas and electricity to the rest of the country.

That's a few billion dollars' worth of export income lost.

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Saw that. Thank a lot Jacinda 

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But she got a headline in a couple of UK papers.  Surely that was worth sacrificing a big chunk of the economy for.

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At least they had planned Onslow to fix the problem. Oh wait, landlords need tax relief. Sorry.

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And Onslow would be up and working by now would it. Under labour they would still be wondering who would be bringing the cupcakes to the next coffee meeting to book the next coffee meeting

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Fair comment...they (labour) certainly never appeared convinced of the need.

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Q4 will be fine. NZ Energy consumption drops significantly from Oct-Dec

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by JimboJones | 14th Aug 24, 8:34am

Like this comment for no change

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So many got it wrong here!

 

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I too voted for a cut. I also predicted the 4.6% unemployment figure. My crystal ball is firing at the moment, I’ve also likely used up all my prediction luck for the year 

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Surprised, but its what I had hoped would happen (a couple of times now given the low quarterly CPI for last three quarters).

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Lots of commentators claiming to be the 5 commentators that got it right. 

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I wish interest.co.nz would be more like Facebook. Notifications and see the likes/dislikes

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And we all post pictures of ourselves twerking etc.

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That’s Tiktok. Some would pay good money to watch Yvil twerk 

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My actual name is Ray Gunn, lol.

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"Lots of commentators claiming to be the 5 commentators that got it right."

If only there was a poster that actually wrote, long in advance that they expected the first OCR cut in August 2024   ;-)

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I was one ..

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Well I was one. Can you blame people for not wanting to make predictions on here ? You get blasted if you are wrong with RP and his multiple personality disorders trawling up your posts but never admitting you got it right.

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BEAUTIFUL !

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 Nice one mate. You got a spare seat on the plane for the trip, I’m bored.

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Honestly, I was mentally preparing a "I was wrong post" for my call made 14 months ago that the first OCR cut would occur in August 2024.  Even though I stood by my call, after the May MPS, when RBNZ suggested a possible rise in the OCR, deep down I had doubts that Orr would be able to make such an about face.  

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The trend is your friend.

Unless you’re a DGM, then you have no friends.

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Barfoot and Thompson shutting branches and trying to claim it’s because of unspecific crime. Great way to bury news of their struggles

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IT GUY and HouseMouse are strangely absent from this thread - I wonder why?

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Don’t forget old mate Retired Poopy. And I mean old….

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lol! Something troubling you Iceman? You just cannot stop mentioning me can you and I wasn't even absent from this thread to begin with. 

Poopy

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Hey poopy you are troubling, your comments are one eyed and as I said your fanbase are going the way of the OCR.

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I'm not troubled so neither should you be. 

Poopy

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Phew!

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I picked a no change in the Jimbojones vote. 

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Ditto

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Tritto

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Me three.

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me too

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I hedged my bets. I felt there would be a cut, but I figured Orr would be a dick about it so went "no change" as well. It's taken him a while to read the room but at least he's not completely oblivious.

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No one cares

you changed your tune when the fat lady was singing - you were wrong for 18 months

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That makes in Adrian Orr, oh wait he was wrong for 4 years

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Waffles

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I voted it would drop, not many of us I see.

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The collective relief of all the debt riddled people here is palpable.

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As in anyone with a mortgage or debt within their business? Probably many

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I can confirm business rates have not moved with kiwibank.

This is new zealand, it's all about houses, it's all that matters...

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What until monday. Report back then.

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Not as palpable as the collective despair of all the miserable DGMs. 🍿

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33 at last count, pretty sad really as a drop in rates puts more money into the economy. The DGM's just want to see the whole lot burn to the ground.

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Or just anyone who runs a business that needs customers. But yeah all about debt lol. Dgm mentality. Chip on the shoulder mentality.

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More correctly ...

The collective relief of all the people facing redundancy or bankruptcy is palpable.

Alas for them ... The OCR is still quite contractionary and the economy won't turn around on a dime for such a tiny change.

 

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Whatever.

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Pleaseeeeee, pleeeease, pleeease Jfoe - while we ackownledge this is one of the great comments, the people want more.

-SMG.

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Pretty much my sentiment too.

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if you aren't playing the usury game, it's a non event.
I'm more interested in how many people are going to go to the wall (or the airport), so Luxon can put a tick in his spreadsheet.

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Hmm some relief just as the Du Val Group gets into financial strife. Coincidence, I think not!

-SMG.

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That was 12 months ago….. Just the FMA has been asleep until now….

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The FMA has been and remains in a coma.

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This should get the property market underway again.

Anyone been 'backin' the truck up'? 

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Yes, but not towards the residential property market. Crowded trade.  

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Latest word is that Riverhead is up 35% in the last eighteen minutes.

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That's what I like to hear. 

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We all know that you run on hot air like a steam locomotive. You welcome.

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If it's good enough for Matvin, Fletchers and Neil to throw a few billion at Riverhead, it's good enough for me to throw a bit at it. 

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That is true, Fletchers is known for throwing the odd billion into the proverbial fire.

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Yes, it is reflected in their current share price.

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Been for a drive past Westgate and noticed all those new shops that have opened recently?

And all the steel rafters dominating the landscape that have appeared in the last 2 weeks.?

And the new industrial subdivision on the other side of the NW motorway? 

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Nah, I haven’t as I live in the beautiful south island and worry nothing of what goes on in Auckland.

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Indeed. Soon to be choca of Fletcher's houses. We know they build the highest quality and attract the best occupiers.

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Not quite so dramatic, but my share portfolio is up over 1% in the last half hour. Clearly a surprise to the market. 

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13% to go and your at break even..well done!

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Not sure what you think I'm invested in, but luckily you are way off the mark. 

Up 1.6% for the day now.

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I factor in Fiat debasement and inflation into my return calculation's.

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OK. Still not sure what you think I'm invested in. Sharesight tells me I'm up 9% p.a. over the last 5 years, I think that's ahead of inflation. 

It's 11% p.a. over the last 10 years, so yes the New Zealand bear market has slowed things down a little. 

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"This should get the property market underway again."

You're kidding, right?

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It won't happen overnight, but it'll give investors and prospective homeowners more confidence that rates are on the way down. 

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Cool!

OCR down 0.25% and the Kiwi down 0.75%....so far.

Now let me think about that CPI again....

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Like Ali in Kinshasa, the Ponzi will rise up of the canvas to knock the DGM's out once and for all.

Ponzi Boma ye     Ponzi Boma ye

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And before Ali died, he came down with a terrible affliction. Sounds about right....

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Can hear cheers from the water cooler. Box of Spumante on ice. 

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Washed down with a purple goanna XD

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Magnificent reference TK.

When we were Kings one of the great sporting docos of all time

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The best, peerless. What a man.

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Highly recommend “Fire in Babylon” too, about the great Windies cricket team of 70s/80s

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Adrian Orr actually thinking somewhat sensibly this time. Softish landing confirmed. All the extremists on both ends can eat kaka.

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Committee outvoted him

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Paul Volcker has left the building. 

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👍👍👍😁😁😁

 

🍿🍿🍿🍿

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Did they change the inflation target from 2%? We're not forecast to get there until 2026, and the plummeting NZ dollar from this doesn't help.

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The effects of the cut will lag though. I wouldn't want to live in a world where we wait that long to cut.

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The range is 1-3%, we shouldn't be avoiding the bottom half of that range. As an armchair economist there looks a far higher risk of us ending up out of that range than with no cut. Especially given higher electricity and gas prices will start to flow through the economy next year.

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This is my thinking too. The risk of us ending up below 1% any time soon has got to be near zero considering the baked in non-tradable increases and demographic and infrastructure pressures. Whereas there are multiple plausible developments that could send inflation well over 3% again. 

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We are at 2% or there abouts for the last 3 quarters. What pipe are you smoking?

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The inflation projection from the RBNZ MPS just released. September quarter inflation is usually higher than the other quarters.

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The RBNZ is now operating based on feels not forecasts.  Every other central bank waited until inflation actually was at target before cutting.  I guess Orr thinks he's smarter than all those other bankers.  

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"Every other central bank waited until inflation actually was at target before cutting. "

What utter, unadulterated b.s. 

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Canada, UK, Switzerland, Sweden and Europe all cut rates AFTER inflation was below 3% and within target band.  US still waiting.  But here we are with inflation still at 3.3% and its "lets cut rates NOW!"  Totally out of step with the rest of the world.

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/big-central-banks-are-starting…

Do you see Norway or Australia cutting rates?   Nope, not until 2025 according to their central banks.  Because inflation is still not in target range, or has only just moved in to the target range and they need more time.  But not NZ, no, we're ready to embrace the 1970's again.  Get out your flares and disco balls.

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Well, I guess in NZ he’s very concerned about our (property) economy. Need more sales. 

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🧂🧂

It won’t do bugger all for real estate, but it will maybe give a change in sentiment and some relief for an economy that needs it. 

KW…so all those countries also work off such outdated data…we are within the target band and that will be confirmed when the next print drops. 

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KW with the receipts

 

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I am really surprised by this cut in August, as it shows quite clearly that the recent RBNZ's own forecast of the interest rates trajectory was a complete joke, and as such it seriously calls in question Orr's credibility. 

I was fully expecting a total of 50 bps points cut before end of the year, but not in August - rather in October/November. 

On the more positive side, it is good that the RBNZ is at least finally recognising the speed with which the NZ economy is deteriorating and taking action accordingly. 

The future easing of monetary conditions should be done slowly and carefully though, otherwise the NZ$ will drop like a stone and we will have again an inflation problem with the consequent need for a re-tightening of monetary condition -  something that the current NZ economy just can't afford. 

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A big cut - 0.5% or above - is a clear indication they're not reading the situation correctly.

They have 6 times a year to make changes. Turning oil tankers needs small adjustments on the wheel way before you even get close to things that will sink you.

The only time such cuts should be necessary are for sudden, and serious, black swan events ... (and IMNSHO covid didn't qualify, thus the OCR should never had gone much below the neutral rate of 2.5%. Covid was an issue for government and the RBNZ should have stood back.)

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Going by some of the comments on here, it seems the sinking of the NZ housing market is the ‘serious/black swan event’.

”HARD TO PORT, ALL ENGINES FULL ASTERN!!!”

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RBNZ showing consistency - too quick to drop too low in 2020/21, too quick to raise 2022 & now too quick to drop...

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Too slow to raise 2022? The OCR was 0.25% when the CPI was 4%.

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You're right, I meant to say too quick to get high. 

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"... too quick to get high."

That would explain a lot.

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Heavens to Murgatroyd

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Orr spent the entire night lying in the dark, staring at the ceiling with his fists clenched.
10% guaranteed failed.

 

Great news, it is a start. 
 

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Inflation to the moon! 🚀

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Squishy never heard of lag. Pick your graphite shafted driver up and test it out 

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The committee agreed  - what weasel words

same conditions existed 6 months ago

 

Nats will very shortly be sending out emails claiming credit 

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Having only jumped into the property market in the last two weeks, you can now call me Chubby "The Oracle" Peterson. The most unproductive and insipid asset class in history which all of you idiots piled your hard earned overtaxed money.

As a long suffering wise man once said, unluggy uce.

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all of you idiots piled your hard earned overtaxed money. 

 Welcome to the world of being a debt slave

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Interesting, not all debt is bad.  My parents thought like you about being a debt slave "Don't ever borrow any money for anything"  they told me. My parents were very nice people, but narrow minded, they rented for their whole life and they struggled financially for their whole life.  If it wasn't for my wife who's a much more open minded about borrowing, I would still be a struggling, renting person.

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cheers Yvil - great share.

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Debt makes people rich, you just have to know how to use it. It magnifies returns, but can also make losses particularly unpalatable. 

I've never figured out why people borrow money to buy a depreciating asset like a car. 

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I've never figured out why people borrow money to buy a depreciating asset like a car

Self gratification. 

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Only bought my first ever new car last year because I could and it was time to enjoy driving something new instead of all my other 20 year old plus cars. If you enjoy driving then hell yes why not and its probably the last chance to buy a new performance ICE car with a 6 speed manual transmission.

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Congrats, and fine choice on the 6spd manual. I despise the thought of driving an automatic until the sheer lack of manuals in NZ force me to.

 

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Yeah its also a millennial antitheft device.

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Borrowing for property was fine until the Govt had a bright idea and introduced the OCR in the 90’s. Now it feels like mortgage debt is just a variable tax payment, turning home-owners into cash cows to stabilise the economy.

And of course the higher the debt, the more control Govt has over society. No wonder they have no real desire to reduce house prices.

”Neither a borrower nor a lender be”

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Makes sense, but should have been bigger. Post September likely we will be within inflation range and the OCR will be 2-3% above inflation.

Lets just hope Orr hasn't taken the economy down.

This will result in a lower $$, but that's OK in my books.  Exporters get paid more, oil prices go up a bit so we try and use less and/or head further toward electrification. Boo hoo.

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Just filled my old crusier up diesiel at 1.77 a liter cheaper than 2yr ago plus inflation 

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Doubled it's value? 

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with 900k plus on the clock had it 23plus yrs paid 23k for it just serviced mechanic says engine as good as new. Have had several people over the years want to buy it for 10k plus. Dosent worry me what's its worth just can't kill it

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Those old straight 6's are notoriously reliable and long lasting.

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2C diesel engine by toyota in late 80’s to early 90’s corolla and corona’s. Cant get then easy now due to age and the Saudis have been paying megabucks for the engines alone as they recognised the reliability. More money to scrap one now which gets sold off to saudi than it is to fix.

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4 cyclinder toyota 3.0l diesiel 1KZ prado turbo intercooler 5 speed manual the best Toyota diesiel engine bar the v8 70 series  

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Clearly Orr has blinked. How much of a difference does this really make?

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Swaps have been proven right. 

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Zero. priced in.

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0.25% cut today won't make any difference.  But an OCR of 2.5 - 3.00% by August next year will make a significant difference.

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The updated forecast has an OCR in the range of 3.5 - 4.0% by Aug next year

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With the OCR still 2.25% above their neutral rate (currently 2.75%), and the NZ economy still contracting, the market is currently wrong. It will adjust towards 'neutral' in time.

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Yvil's forecast is more accurate.

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@averageman I said I needed 5.5 retail banks by March to survive?  You said impossible with rates nearly 7%.  I feel it is now probable?  I am sure you going to give me a blast however this time round you might not get all the likes you use to.  

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No at all. Stand by saying inflation is not slain and Orr caving to pressure.

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'Members also noted that domestic inflation could fall more quickly than projected if wage- and price-setting behaviour adjusts more rapidly to a low inflation environment. For example, headline inflation will fall sustainably back to the target mid-point more quickly if price and wage setters adjust more to expected future inflation rather than to past inflation' 

I am not sure where they have been the last weeks but they are clearly unaware of our energy situation!

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The Members should have also have 'noted' that dropping working capital costs to businesses - both large and single person businesses - could also cause inflation to fall more quickly than projected as this lowers costs to those businesses.

Did they though? Nope.

The failures of their monetary policy must never be mentioned.

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Would like to hear from someone with a $1M homeloan @ 7 x DTI what they are going to spend their 2.5K windfall on.

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If the $ craps the bed, then I guess they can spend it on filling the car up and paying more for the kids' imported Christmas presents. $2.5k doesn't touch the sides these days. I suppose the main hope of the heavily indebted is that any downwards OCR movement reignites the fires of the ponzi. 

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they will have a nice tax cut as well so could be 5k up soon

maybe they can buy another rental

 

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The graph in the MPS with RBNZ's projected forecast has the OCR at what looks to be 4.75% by year end. This suggests a 0.5% at next meeting too.

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Great news for those who have a lot of debt, including farm overdrafts. In saying that home loan rates might not change much if at all as the Banks expected this and reduced their rates ahead of today. Banks are not your friend. They give as little as possible and always win.

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Ex agent they are starting to shave more off this afternoon. A battle for the ever decreasing mortgage market look at ASB profit down. How to banks make money

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The rock has met the hard place. Markets are nuking the NZD. 

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"Markets are nuking the NZD."

Hasn't so far. Still above recent lows.

Currently .6034 with recent lows of  ~0.5880 that lasted 4-5 days.

It will continue to re-test those lows in the coming months - and not because of the OCR - but because the NZ economy will continue to contract and NZ will continue to borrow.

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Exactly

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Got stuck on an unstable ledge for awhile. Ledge has given way. Hello 59.

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Still above the lows when the major economic news came out in late July. (Pub-economists read far too much into how FX markets respond to central bank actions.)

If one subscribes to the view that a country's currency is like a 'share' or 'stock' in that country, (I largely do), then the NZD will break through those July lows as the economy continues to contract and the suffering mounts. Unless there is a significant improvement in our BoP, particularly our export receipts, it's going to be one way traffic.

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Hasnt dropped that much in reality and look at fuel got diesiel at 1.77 today and with inflation the last year or two what were we paying for it two yrs ago. 

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Fark's sake Adrian, now I'm going to have all the annoying agents from the various open homes I've visited over the past month calling me up telling me to get in quick because the heat will be returning to the market. 

I will personally seek vengeance if this occurs, or if an even worse scenario materialises in which I'm forced to endure the in laws talking up their leveraged portfolio again (I know it's bleeding cash each month). 

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Just leave another agent ph number on th sign in sheet. That way they all ring each other and give away their listings 

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How did I not think of that? I was going to use my mother in law's.

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Evil genius 🙌😂

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LOL. One good reason I screen my calls and let them go to voice mail if I dont' know the number. 

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That's my tactic. 

Unknown number -> send to voicemail.  Check voicemails -> Did not leave voicemail -> search emails/CRM for phone number -> no match -> do not call back

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A friend of me said to me in the office today, "What do you think they will do?"

"Cut", I said

"Why?' he said.

"Because they shouldn't" I answered.

And really that sums up the reserve bank. I really can't think of a single decision they have got right. If there was ever a time for keeping the powder dry it is now. With our current account deficit, the hit on the currency will be immediately inflationary. Never mind what happens in Ukraine and the middle east.

Remember the funding for lending program, also knowns as the big 'Ponzi Bubble Blow'. Inflation created directly by the RBNZ

 

 

 

 

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"With our current account deficit, the hit on the currency will be immediately inflationary."

Hasn't so far. Still above recent lows.

Currently .6034 with recent lows of  ~0.5880 that lasted 4-5 days.

It will continue to re-test those lows in the coming months - and not because of the OCR - but because the NZ economy will continue to contract and NZ will continue to borrow.

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Long NZDUSD, stop on yesterday's open. One cool US CPI print away from reclaiming today's high.

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Gold jumped against the NZD after the announcement. This must be inflationary.

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You have colleagues that are friends?

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cosmetic cuts...too little...too late... the damage is done. We haven't even seen all the lag effects yet. Keep an eye on unemployment and liquidations as the government is sitting on its hands not coming to the rescue

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Yup.

And the OCR is still 2.25% above their neutral rate so it is still contractionary ... And NZ Inc will still contract further.

Boom, bust, boom, bust. Wrecking NZ Inc so the rich can get richer.

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Yep
If it is higher than CPI (3.3%) or GDP (0.2%), then it is still contractionary. 
 

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Stupid is as stupid does. 

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Just re-checked the listing of our old house that the vendors had listed on TradeMe since 2 Nov last year with no success. There this morn and now, "Withdrawn by Seller".

That took, what, 15 minutes for the implications to be seen.

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Sample sets of one aren't that reliable.

There may be a few that pull their listings based on normalization track the RBNZ has embarked on. But many will be seeing the other writing writ large on the wall.

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Yep the property market here turns on a dime because its so sentiment based. People now know that rates are going DOWN and are going to continue to go down so the pressure is off. The RBNZ just turned the light on at the end of the tunnel.

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Too little, too late

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Even if it bigger this time, it would still be too late.

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Absolutely nothing they've said today that they couldn't have said for the last two - or even three - MPSs.

Remembering of course that the May MPS - where they said rates may rise and the first cuts wouldn't be until Q3 next year - was utter b.s. Geez, they need to apologize to borrowers that fixed longer based on their nonsense. And I'd support any borrower taking legal action against them for that May release.

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Responsible but not accountable.

Who else has that luxury in their job?

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They are just playing the market, and the market plays a similar game back. Had they said in May "we intend to cut in August", then the market prices that into fixed rates that very day and the RBNZ has effectively cut when they didn't want to. 

I think he played a pretty good hand really, he had almost all commentators here fooled into thinking there would be no cut today. 

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"They are just playing the market ..."

[Checks their remit] ... Sorry, can't find that they are allowed, or sanctioned, to do that.

Are you suggesting they're allowed to break the law?

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"In addition, the RBNZ has sharply moved down its inflation forecasts. It now expects that inflation will easily move back into its targeted range in the current quarter. It sees annual inflation being 2.3% by the end of the September quarter." - this was quite obvious a long time ago, there is a big 1.8% that falls out of the annual this quarter. 

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Not just debt riddled people. You can include all small business owners myself included. 

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IMO this shows they have bowed into massive pressure from banks and politics. Inflation is not in the required band and they failed and let it get completely out of control once. I would have had more respect if they had kept it stable. Banks want to sell mortgages and get house prices rising again, so it was no surprise that they were strongly calling for the rates to be dropped.

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or they risk the lag over shooting and end up in deflation. based on the last 3 quarters we are already in the 1-3% CPI

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Solely focusing on the vested interests of banks/politicians is stupid. They've caused the damage they wanted and this is very evident by many metrics, including the massive worrying net outflows.. Holding for any longer and accounting for lag risks massively overshooting the mark. 

This was the right call. They've done enough as noted in the unanimous decision to cut.

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RBNZ has seem the CPI dropping faster than expected and wanted to cut the OCR a small amount to see what effect it has on the inflation announcement in October. it will interesting see when they now think inflation will be at 2% surely that estimate has changed.

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Translation: The economy has crashed worse than we thought

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Clearly the historical "neutral" rate doesn't work for NZ and we will settle somewhere lower. 

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Indeed.

NZ's neutral rate has been falling for generations along with everywhere in the developed world.

I found it extremely odd when the RBNZ decided to raise it about 18 months ago from 2.5% to 2.75%.

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No credibility

Yet, the right decision 

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Had they cut last meeting we may have met my "soft landing" criteria of unemployment remains under 5%. Now it is touch and go. 

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Updated RBNZ forecast has unemployment peaking at 5.5% early 2025

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Softish landing (if correct)

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A big IF based on the RBNZ’s forecasting record

I have been on record as saying 5.5-6%. An elephant in the room is the employment prospects of students graduating over the coming year

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Central banks always forecast a soft landing but never deliver one. 

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100%.

They always hold too high. What they should be doing is dropping as inflation falls.

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"annual inflation falling to just 2.3%"

Which is still CPI rising, ON TOP OF what it did last years, ON TOP OF what it did the year before. Accumulated CPI rises are way beyond the 3-year target of the RBNZ.

But on the bright side, at least I may not have to buy my step-daughter's property to bail her out now. I'll leave that to some other sap, sorry, investor.

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Before that there were many years below 2%. So it depends how long you accumulate. 

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That is a massive U-turn from the RBNZ's May MPS from "we may have to raise the OCR and the first cut will occur in more than a year's time (Q3 2025) to CUT NOW".  Somehow, they now seem to see what many on Interest have been seeing for some time.  

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Yvil, like most economists they sit in ivory towers detached from reality 

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See my comment above:

I think he played a pretty good hand really, he had almost all commentators here fooled into thinking there would be no cut today. 

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Not all...

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A perspective perhaps not mentioned yet. Some of those I have talked to the last few years (retired, mortgage free and with av $500k cash) may now start cutting their spending as the return on their TDs drop. 
 

They increase their spending in relation to interest rate rising as they got more return in their low risk investments. It possible that we now see a reduced spend from them in the economy as rates fall.

Sure this will free up some cash for those with debt (if they keep their jobs or don’t get reduced hours as recession bites) but it doesn’t mean an improvement necessarily  In conditions for your business/household.

If the post tax return on TDs approaches 0–% again, many retirees may close up their wallets as their income drops (super + TD income) - they don’t own rentals and they don’t want to risk the sharemarket so low rates don’t benefit them much if f at all.

But hopefully some relief for those with mortgages that have been battling away of late.
 

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Or get your money offshore, to Australia, as fast as possible before the NZ$ devalues even more.  RBA said no way are they cutting rates. 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/article/2024/a…

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Quite funny how many kiwis are heading to Australia as things are ostensibly better, but the more you read the more you see the same problems or worse across the ditch.

Sydney becoming a city of no grandkids. Housing insane. Brisbane a big hot dump on a dirty river. Melbourne a big Wellington whose idea of cool is some drug addled graffit “lanes” with some wanker selling overpriced artisan coffee. And the rest just a big empty dry space.

Perth may as well be Timbuktu.

can someone fill me In what the advantages are?

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Less people like Frank Sobotka?

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Both my kids are in Aussie.

Plenty of work, one of them bought a very nice brick and tile 4 brm house with garage in Drouin, which is about 80k east of Melbourne for A$550k. 

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Well Levin is 80k out of Wellington and the house prices will be the same - and its probably as interesting as Drouin

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Save money much faster to offer a better future due to higher wages, then you can take that money wherever you wish for the next step in life.

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Don't believe figures from Immigration NZ as they like economists predominantly get it wrong. Remeber back when they said 160k visa holders would get that one off visa 210k it turned out. For departures in May this year they said we lost so many kiwis turned out we actually gained 300 so pinch of salt any time a govt dept talks figures 

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The number of births doesnt lie - European births in the year to March 2024 have dropped by 14% in just one year.  Where have all those babies disappeared to?  (Cant blame the pandemic either, Maori/Pacifica births are only down 4%, and Asian births are up 12%).  There is a huge exodus of people underway and it will reverberate for generations.

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Melbourne is in a deep depression, similar to NZ.  But Brisbane is rocking.   Go out in the city on a Monday, Tuesday night and the restaurants and bars are packed. Tons of people walking around the CBD shopping strip. Same on the Gold Coast.  Same in Townsville (where I currently am).  Its like a different world over here - the old world, the way things used to be before people like Jacinda Ardern and Dan Andrews completely stuffed everything.  

I'm here, I'm loving it.  And the weather is amazing (currently sunny and 26 degrees).

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Please stay - Ozi seems to be more suited to you KW than a gated community in Christchurch?

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The body corporate fees on a luxury waterfront apartment on the Gold Coast is now the same as what I pay in rates to the Christchurch Council.  So it probably wont be too long before I stop funding useless cycle lanes and 20 kmph speed humps on suburban streets.  And I can drive around the Australian streets at 60 kmph and be astounded at how all the Australians still manage to survive!

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I can smell the arrogance on your breath.

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Did you check out all the amazing cycle lanes and speed limits that are going in in the Gold Coast, Brisbane and Sydney. They are absolutely smashing it. 

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Good to know and glad it’s working out for you. Frank has lived all over the world, life of a longshoreman.

Brisbane was undoubtedly one of the most dull places I’ve been. But that was when I wore a younger man’s clothes.

Different strokes for different folks. I hope we all find a place that suits   

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Brisbane used to he the cheap option to live in Oz, now it has caught up to everywhere else and will suffer the same issues as MLB and SYD.

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 It comes down to the lessor or two evils. There are also more people with mortgages who may feel richer and spend more if house prices rise, and they feel richer on paper 

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Just in time…not. Energy shock on horizon.

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I was one of the five.

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Only 5 mentions of "Ponzi" in the comments (excl this one). People must be still basking in the medal count.

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Yeah it’s definitely caught me off guard…I was all locked in to chuck a heap of “ponzi” comments everywhere…then boom it changed to “it’s tanked the dollar”…l just can’t keep up with the cool kids vocab damnit 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

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JPYNZD up 1.35%. The peso is falling against the basket case of all basket cases. 

New all-time high for XAUNZD - $4,093. 

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Is your Yen carry trade unwinding? :-)

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NZ$ falls 1%

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Still above the lows hit late July when the economic mess we're in because crystal clear.

It will continue to re-test those lows in the coming months - and not because of the OCR - but because the NZ economy will continue to contract and NZ will continue to borrow.

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Agree with that. But if 0.5880 does break this time, 0.5714 looks like the next support, then something with a 0.50 to start with. Besides, Adrian has just upped the amount of ammo he has in his intervention pop-gun. So that's possibly all just improbable charting stuff...(we hope!)

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I would suggest you treat changes in the NZD due to OCR changes for the lagging indicator that they are.

Or put another way, the OCR is falling because any investment in New Zealand's contracting economy - via the NZD - is a perilous exercise.

Or put another way still, the NZD tanks after an OCR cut because the OCR is the last and final confirmation of just how bad things are.

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Burn baby burn 

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Orr realised his face was too far gone and decided to try and save the economy instead.

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Orr realised his face was too far gone and decided to try and save the economy instead.

Still gets paid 2x the salary of Jerome Powell. Can slink off and admire the bank account. 

The foot soldiers will be left to face the music. 

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Is the effect of the discount rate on the asset value linear? 
 

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"It’s a CUT!!" - maybe the RBNZ should have something like a gender reveal party. Orr pops a balloon, a green pair of scissors drops out, a lot of streamers fly everywhere, big crowd of property investors cheer. 

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Or Papal smoke?

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3 more interest rates cut over the next few months.

Right? 

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Shipping costs have quadripled in the last 9 months.

We're about to go through an energy crisis.

The Middle East/Ukraine are about to/popping off which will spike oil prices.

We'll see if we get anymore this year depending on how these pan out but I think the RBNZ have overcooked it in the other direction again because they don't have a clue.

 

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LOL. Sure. If you say so.

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Will be interesting probably slow cuts of 25bps at each meeting. The RBNZ are not going to want to swing hard the other way and will watch the FED. The US election is coming and the Dem's are going to smash Trump, his time is up.

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OK. I've analysed the MPS data release and I'm awake now (and angry).

First point: Wiggling interest rates down by 25 pts will help businesses a bit. That's $500m of debt servicing cost relief. You might even see a bit of that relief come through to lower prices, but I suspect that balance sheet repair will be the main focus. As it will be when rates come down again (and again) over the next year as RBNZ chase the economy down the swanny.

Second point: The real economy in NZ gets crushed by higher interest rates with a 12 - 24 month lag. Lower rates will release disposable income - but, again, this will take ages because mortgagors are on fixed rates, banks pass on changes painfully slowly, and unavoidable prices are still going up (hello rates). It is also REALLY important to note that economies do not recover without fiscal support, and the Govt in their infinite, ideological wiz-dumb are cutting deficit spending from around 5.3% of GDP in the year to June 2024 ($21bn) to 2.1% this Govt fiscal year ($8bn). This reduction will be really contractionary! A $13bn reduction in stimulus will remove a similar amount of stimulus as a 250pt rate hike.

Third point. Oh my bloody god! Look how much the RBNZ economic forecasts have changed in a few months. They now more closely reflect the data and trends that have been obvious to anyone with an understanding of macro for a year. For example, RBNZ now see annual gdp growth being negative for a year or so. A few months ago they were forecasting a tiny dip into negative in June 24 and then onwards and upwards (the fools). They're also now forecasting a year of negative employment growth. how about an extra 20,000 people unemployed? And, so on.

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Gulp. Excellent analysis as usual. After contemplating this, the Spumate is going back in the box. 

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"Would you care for a New Zealand's finest double brown sir"

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Yes Orr had to cut today as the economy has contracted. Businesses and families are struggling to survive financially. What a bloody mess. He should have cut earlier. There are no excuses. He has more data to work with than everyone. 

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Didn't they say just a few months ago that they wouldn't start cutting until later in 2025. It is a pretty major turnaround imo,  and it isn't a sudden shock or event like covid was, to make such a uturn. 

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We had 7% inflation, soon it will be close to 2%. Job done, thank you Mr Orr. It’s a pity he got us to the 7% in the first place however. 

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Oor giveth, and Oor taketh away.

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Orr neither got us to 7% nor helped us get back to 3% (or whatever). The global price level has adjusted, and our price level has followed. Why? Because a third of our consumption by value is imported, and export prices determine the price of stuff we make domestically and consume here (eg cheese). Take a look at this graph.  What do you see?

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Their hopelessness is almost impressive.

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"A $13bn reduction in stimulus will remove a similar amount of stimulus as a 250pt rate hike"

Thanks Jfoe, that's a great comparison.

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"For example, RBNZ now see annual gdp growth being negative for a year or so. A few months ago they were forecasting a tiny dip into negative in June 24 and then onwards and upwards (the fools). "

Yup.

And yet the voters on this site believe the NZD tanks because of OCR cuts? Nothing to do with the fact that the RBNZ is the last to know they're screwing the pooch.

Worst. Central. Bank. Ever. (WCBE)

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I reckon they were pissed of with having to exclusively carry the can for the economy tanking.  Now it's on the coalition as they have cut as everyone was asking for. Now if things don't pick up the focus will come on the coalition. There is only so long they will be able to blame Labour and RBNZ. Fun times. 

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So if the economy improves you will credit the coalition?

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I will not but the public will. I think broader structural forces are more responsible for how the economy does than any given administration. I think administration's can nudge the economy more or less in the right or wrong direction but the major structural forces determine the overall positive or negative outcome.

Think of it like curling, structural forces throw the rock and each administration sweeps furiously to try to bring it towards themselves. 

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I will not but.....

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Labour blamed Nat for 6 years so they have time

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TBH that probably had a lot to do with it. A total Uturn from a few months ago. 

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Well I called it. Congratulation Yvil you probably called it before anyone else but even at this morning pretty much nobody was calling it.

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Whoopdee doo

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EeeOrr was spotted in Hamner going into a pie shop..."$50 Crayfish Pies just got a little less expensive".

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Lol, not bad mate 😂

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Although many are clutching at the straw of (future) reduced mortgage payments and expect a boost to discretionary spend and borrowing, this is an admission that things are not good and the only, repeat only option the RBNZ has is to reduce the cost to the economy of 'rent'....that is not a great place to be.

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Yep somewhat agree , it is an admission and likely the RB will tread very carefully . Banks will be happy with todays announcement but should also be very wary of how far they push their luck with the RB . Times have changed and likely the RB is ready to spin on a dime if they have too. I view this drop as a goodwill gesture and those that bite the hand should be very careful...The RB certainly has solid expectations. 

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he said he changed his mind because the data had changed,   if inflation picks up again, he will change his mind again.

I suspect he has overcooked it again however.

 

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242 comments in 5 hours. A good indication of the incredible interest in today’s announcement and the financial pain out there in NZ homes and businesses. He spoke of the economy contracting. Why not make an exception to the rule and do it the minute he could see the economy was in deep trouble. The average New Zealander does not have a lot of income to come and go on.

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Likely the FED rate limiting what can be done... todays drop is not entirely outside of the realm of the current Fed rate (5.25-5.50) . Those in RE expecting an instant rebound and return to 'Rockstar' will be disappointed there is global recognition that prices are still in the unaffordable zone and in need of downward pressure .  

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Orr is on ~$850k/year. He wouldn’t know the struggles if the common man if his coffee cost him $50 each morning

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Meh. 

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We're back to business babe, haha ha hahaha

Next year we might see a 10-20% increase in house prices, depends on how far the reserve bank will go with the OCR reduction  

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Welcome to the comments Tony Alexander 

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That's an interesting prediction, if you are right I will be up 5-600k, and if I am right I will not be up at all, and I guess you will be down however many houses you have just purchased...    or are you trying to recover paper money on past purchases?

 

 

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Tony Alexander says house prices will be rising before the end of the year.

https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/finance/tony-alexander-the-reserve-banks…

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This will age like milk

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