After much debate on the introduction on the NAIT tagging scheme farmers worst fears are coming to roost with extra costs now emerging from the saleyards and processors.
With nearly all their products reducing in price this year and many other farm cost increases evident, this is an extra burden many farmers will object to, especially as it was not explained in the consultative stage.
And if these costs are evident now in a cattle scheme just think how bureractic and complicated sheep ID will be, when it is implemented.
It was interesting to see sheep award winner Dr Jock Alison's opposition to such a scheme quoted recently.
While no farmer will want any compromises on agricultural biosecurity many have doubts that this scheme will help and most just see more compliance costs burdening the business of farming.
What are your thoughts with this compulsory tagging and are you using the individual ID as a way of identifying superior animals in your commercial herd?
Farmers furious about extra layers of bureaucracy have something new to fume about - saleyards are now charging them for their part in the national animal identification and tracing scheme to track cattle reports Stuff.
Farmers already pay NAIT tag and slaughter levies per head of cattle ranging from $1.10 plus GST a tag to $13 plus GST a head at slaughter for “impractical to tag” animals.
Organisations responsible for Waikato stockyards have confirmed they are charging an administration fee of $1.50 plus GST per head of cattle, with half paid by the seller and half by the buyer.
Ollie Carruthers, the Waikato regional manager for New Zealand Farmers Livestock, which runs the Frankton and Morrinsville saleyards, said the fee was to pay for equipment and extra staff needed to meet the scheme's requirements. "At Morrinsville, for instance, there are four extra staff involved just for the reading of the cattle [tags], and about $60,000 worth of gear.”
The New Zealand Stock and Station Agents' Association said the fees had been taken up across all saleyards in New Zealand. “The introduction of the mandatory NAIT scheme has had a significant impact, not only on farmers but also on every saleyard in New Zealand, resulting in increased costs through additional labour and administration input to process NAIT requirements,” spokeswoman Bronwyn Gibson said.
Many yards had invested in computing, tagging and tag-reading equipment, and extra staff.
“To date, no saleyard has received financial support from NAIT to implement the scheme. However, saleyard operators have undertaken independently to make a committed effort to ensure the scheme is managed as efficiently as possible for all their clients.”
The NAIT scheme is designed to enhance New Zealand's ability to respond to a biosecurity threat such as a disease outbreak, by providing information on individual animal locations and movements.
It came into effect for cattle last month, and will come into effect for deer from March.
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NAIT is just another bureaucratic BS system that milks more money off the farmers. Another Govt initiated programme that impedes private enterprise sold under the pretentious banner of biosecurity and traceability. The only traceability NZ needs is on the Pollies and Bureaucrats who make all these rules and costs.
There are several small beef export markets who are very strict on proceedures and requirements. If you grow for these markets you use their systems and guarantee your product to the market.
Nationalising a countries assets and systems is Communism. Governments job is to ensure that people and private enterprise have the freedoms laid out in the UN Declaration of Human Rights and Bill of Rights and get the hell out of people's lives.
100% PURE NZ BS
" ...... more compliance costs burdening the business .... "
The 6 most soul destroying words for anyone running a business in NZ , whatever the industry may be ......
....... can anyone remember the era when government was there to serve the people , not the other way around ? ...... can anyone really old remember that , anyone really seriously Methuselahicly old enough to recall that period in our history ?
I couldnt agree more - the whole games a joke, with the amount of bullshit we have to go through now thats done nothing but add extra costs to our biggest but unfortunatley our lowest margin industry.
Watch the wheels fly of this season with the high $ and low payout............ and not to forget the huge compliance costs weve got to deal with on a daily basis.
These are some of the things we now have to do that we never did 20 years ago (and for what benifit???? certainly not the farmers).
1. NAIT
2. Spray notification
3. Animal Health (Drug Use) Register
4. Effluent use register
5. Nuitrient Management Plans
6. OSH
7. Spray Training and Certification for staff (updated every 2-3 years)
8. Full Shed/Effluent/Silage Stack Inspections
9. EID Tags and lifetime ID tags in All Cattle
10. Debt Collector for the IRD
11. Charging Rent to staff for use of houses supplied for the IRD benifit
12. Deposit collector for kiwi saver
13. Statistic's collector for NZ Statistic's
14. Debt Collector for Social Welfare (Family Support)
15. And whatever else Ive forgotten.............
Little do these clowns that have made us do this crap know that most of us would rather be doing what we are good at - farming - not bloody paperwork...............
Grumpy - This rant is particularly laughable. If you can't see the wider reasons for the above then I do pity you. It's the bit about "and for what benifit(sic)" that really gets me. If you can't see that the world has moved on from the early 1990's then perhaps it is time to pass onto the next generation who do understand these things and will operate to ensure the industry is sustainable going forward. The industry can do without these kind of attitudes.
itys - sorry for ranting mate but I inderstand better than most why these things have been put in place, let me remind you - parasitic growth of the service and government industries to the Agricultural Sector!! "Everyones trying to milk the golden cow".
I also remind you that the so called generation you are talking about are lacking the education of past generations, they are also the ones that;
- apply >200 kg nitrogen/ha (and pollute the waterways etc)
- have little regard for their staff (and hence now can only attract foriegners or the botton of the barrel)
- have substantial debt north of $25/kgms
- have farm systems that are not sustainable long term & are reliant on off farm feed (PKE)
- Cant get there cows in calve (NZ average submission rates today are no better than the 80's)
- Are caught up in fraudulent farming practices (legal work in industry has increased substaintially)
If you think all of this extra burecratic crap put onto the farmer is going to make a difference then your in la la land. The only people who benefit are the ones that have created themselves a job out of thin air.
I also remind you that farming is a low margin game, it is also very heavily indebted and very much on the credit watch list of all banks and NZ Inc this season. It does not need any further uncontrolable costs added to it.
In my view (and from my experience), the industry has got alot of work to do before it can move forward onto a sustainable future!
If you believe that this extra beauracratic crap is a burden on the industry then I'd suggest you look at the beaurocratic crap that exists within agriculture in the rest of the world. NZ's requirements are significantly less than Europe for a start.
But again, your comments are so narrow minded and self-serving they do not warrant reply.
ITYS - I don't think this rant is laughable and if you think the Ag industry is going to benefit from this because the world has moved on from the 1990's then I think you maybe seriously mistaken.
The industry has reached a saturation point where the enormous list of of compliance costs is unaffordable in both time and money. Farmers have become free secretaries and collectors for the state.
It is an offence not to pay an employee their wages yet farmers and all other people in business are expected to complete all this work for the Government and its agencies for free. So are you advocating slavery and servitude as beneficial to the products you are growing?
No - but every company has to comply with the requirements of PAYE so let's leave out the 'poor farmers - why does Sh&t only happen to us'. It's a wider question around the most efficient way to enforce labour statutes.
Again, you don't know what complience costs are - go and have a chat with a UK farmer and you'll be laughed for having a whinge at what you have to do.
If you also believe that traceability has no place in modern agriculture then you really do not understand the market place that gives you a return for you product.
ITYS - sorry I dont mean to upset so so much, but the facts are the facts, Im at the coal face and have seen the effects of compliance costs on farmers - show me the increase in our product prices as a result of these additional costs (with their so called added benefits)???
When I last checked our product prices are still struggling to keep up with inflation over the last 50 years. Show me the evidence that proves that weve benefited from all of this additional cost (make sure you put a value on the additional "TIME THAT WE AS FARMERS SPEND ON MANAGING THIS SORT OF CRAP").
Surely the UK is a true example of what not to do, yet we as a country are fast becoming just like them! Our only problem though is that theyve got 50million+ people on their doorstep to feed, we dont, we have to be lean and mean to compete, the additional complienace certianly dont help us and has turned us into a heavily worm burdened mangey old ewe.
We arent debt collectors for the IRD or Social Welfare, this is a burden that our countries poor past social practise and excessive government spend has thrown onto its productive sector. This is unreasonable and unfair and should be a cost to all of NZ not just the employers/business's of NZ.
Ive seen the effects of traceability on farmers, the biggest problem is that we r fast becoming an uneducated industry (check with Massey/Lincoln how low their Agr graduates are now). The end result of this is that farmers totally rely on what their suppliers represent their products as, for example unfortunaly a farmer used a product was used when it shouldnt have been, end result when farmer goes to counter sue the supplier the supplier bankrupts his business leaving the farmer carrying the baby - this was the biggest traceability case so far in NZ and certainlly one that didnt benefit the farmer. NZ Govt would be better off tighting up on what our suppliers put on their labels and getting more kids into Agr universities rather than social sciences etc.
As Andrew J has said our only option is to stand up to the clowns that are sitting in their ivory towers making up all these rules in order to keep themselves in a job.
There is no need to make the whole game so complicated we are only selling milk powder, meat, wool and wood. We arnt added value exporters like everyone would like to think - why? because we dont have the capital do so - we are a highly indebted country (and industry). We have to reduce our costs to produce a bigger profit in order to reduce our debt so that we can survive the next downturn (that is here right now if you havent check the $NZ/USD and the projected payout).
"Show me the evidence that proves that weve benefited from all of this additional cost (make sure you put a value on the additional "TIME THAT WE AS FARMERS SPEND ON MANAGING THIS SORT OF CRAP")."
Unfortunately, this is one area of opportunity cost we cannot measure with gross assumptions but the pricipals are there. Commodity returns have not kept up with inflation - but the key question is where would they be without? Should you wish to export your produce to a country that doesn't care about such things then I'm sure Tunisia is willing to pay you accordingly. Should you wish access to high value markets, it is a cost of doing business with them.
And again, if you view ensuring you are traceable as THIS SORT OF CRAP, then again, I pity you.
And btw, I am at the coal face, I am one of those Massey/Lincoln grads and I firmly believe you should be thankful for the industry framework you have to operate in. Again, look at the grief that the UK farmers are in by not having an industry that is vertically integrated. I hear the exchange rate is very good for a business trip should you wish to be less myopic.
ITYS - we are not talking about only PAYE and you know it. Did you ot read the llist GBH placed on here and mist42nz added too. And there are other compliance issues not mentioned above. Obviously you don't have an issue with the enormous internal subsidy that private enterprise undertakes annually. Farmers and anyone in private enterprise are being abused by the Govt and its Agencies. But then perhaps you think that abuse is acceptable.
You cannot compare NZ compliance costs against those in the UK and find that it is acceptable to layer another level of compliance on NZ farmers because UK farmers have have a higher level of compliance costs. That is rediculous and they have different farming problems than NZ. If your going to use this as the basis of your argument then perhaps you should fairly reflect a mixture of other countries and make fair comparisons.
Traceability is not the issue. Farmers already supply their produce under Caveat Venditor and can be prosecuted for making false allegations and statements. I think I have a very good understanding of the modern market place and also know when someone is trying to get a ride on the pigs back on the way through. Govt and its Agencies are clipping the ticket on private enterprise at the industries expense. Another Agency creating employment so the Govt stats on employment look better.
That depends, did you have a problem with some meat you purchased, in that case it was probably Australian. The mince of course is mixed and contains traces of 278 animals and some skin off the butchers finger and two fly's. We water blast the carcass to get the last of the meat off and make sausages from it or hamburgers. Remember we waste nothing, I mean nothing. The biggest market is the dairy bull and cow kill, which ends up in the States as mince, they push it into the grinders with bulldozers and unless they leave the tags in its hard to imagine much traceablity going on. I remember being in the UK when Mad Cow hit the news, they said it would kill 300k people a year in Europe by 2010, instead it killed not one person.
Traceability is bullshit and the people behind it deserve canning and shipping to Australia.
Well Said Andrewj!!
ITYS - tell me how the NZ Farm Export Industry has survived for the last 100 + years with no traceability systems in place???
Its all a crook of shit - isnt this all a definition of an idiot? why fix it if its not broke? specially so when the industry is already hamstrung from a collapse in product prices and xtremely high debt levels.
The carbon issue is a real example of something dreamed up by the pen pushers (so that they could keep their jobs or get a bonus) thats cost the country a truckload of money that it doesnt have to spend...........
Andrewj - Id prefer we used these people as livebait - least we could have the last laugh.
In case you havent noticed ITYS the worlds in the biggest hole its been in since WORLD WAR II, youd have to be a fool to continue spending on hair brain ideas that show no conclusive evidence of a positive IRR being achieved (return on capital). Show us the clear proof that traceability will/is positive to my cashflow?
We don't have to do it, but we just roll over and take it. We need to boot out Meat and wool and Fed boards, give them a kick up the backside next election. Chances of that are slim as Kiwi farmers are a push over. Will fight to the death over a $30 rural delivery fee and yet take all the big stuff without a fuss.
All it takes is some tosser to tell us its going to make us all rich and we fall over ourselves to sign up, when all along he was talking about himself.
AJ, if my memory serves me correctly M&W had 46% of votes against meat at the last vote and lost the wool. Agree with your point of fighting over not much and letting the big stuff go. It's surprising how many farmers think they'll make extra money out of this. Commercial sheep and beef farmers make the biggest gains out of genetics and feeding so alright for stud farmers but not sure about the rest.
Meat and Wool are funded by levies, are they not? Feds are by subs, so if you want change at Feds you have first to be a member and secondly, be prepared to get involved. Grumpy makes a valid comment re the agingof farmers.
TAF and environmental issues have taken a lot of my time this year, and I don't think I am alone in this, in the dairy industry. With NAIT, we can use civil disobedience to make a point - and that option is not only open to everyone, but also has the potential to make the biggest difference. ;-)
Well said Boys - I hate to say it but the rural sectors gone done the same track of corruption, fraud and plenty of bullshit. Gone are the honerable days of doing business with honerable people and business. Trust no one but the select few, every pricks out to rob you blind.
Andrew J - kiwi farmers are now to old to care, its going to take a new generation of skilled players to knock the bullshit out of the game now.
Spoke to a chap thats been contract milking in Southland for 11 years - hes bailed and moved north to dairy hfr grazing operation - I asked him why the big change? - he replied that hes sick of dealing with Phillipinos etc as staff and sick of dealing with farm owners that never did what they agreed to do, plus the isolation/schooling/wife issues - very interesting stuff when he told me who the owners were and some of the issues he said had put him of the dairy game.
Are we building a Dairy Industry that is sustainable I ask?
ITYS - dairy is not the only Ag industry facing these NAIT costs, it applies to all cattle with deer following shortly.
It is unsustainable to keep lumping bureaucratic compliance on agriculture. If ariculture has to keep this up we are going to be left behind by countries who don't have the same costs i.e. our competitors.
ITYS; Grumpy, notaneconomist et al make some good points regarding unneccessary beurocracy, and it's impact. It's interesting that you mention verticle integration. Is that in itself vital for any ag industry. I recall reading a letter to the editor of Waikato Times recently from a pro TAF Fonterra supplier dismissing sharemilking (despite it being integral to evolution of dairy farming to this point), and claiming farmers need to be sell milk for a price that consumers (corporate processors) deem acceptable. Yes I know, alot of crap, but remember Fontera suppliers have allowed the demise of the industry by accepting abominable leadership culminating in TAF. The cocky made specific reference that farmers have no worries from allowing the investment sector into Fonterra through TAF. I strongly disagree. I wonder what is the point of verticle integration if a) we can't maximise the value of our milk, and b) we don't own it anyway?
Well said Boys - I hate to say it but the rural sectors gone done the same track of corruption, fraud and plenty of bullshit. Gone are the honerable days of doing business with honerable people and business. Trust no one but the select few, every pricks out to rob you blind.
Andrew J - kiwi farmers are now to old to care, its going to take a new generation of skilled players to knock the bullshit out of the game now.
Spoke to a chap thats been contract milking in Southland for 11 years - hes bailed and moved north to dairy hfr grazing operation - I asked him why the big change? - he replied that hes sick of dealing with Phillipinos etc as staff and sick of dealing with farm owners that never did what they agreed to do, plus the isolation/schooling/wife issues - very interesting stuff when he told me who the owners were and some of the issues he said had put him of the dairy game.
Are we building a Dairy Industry that is sustainable I ask?
Spoke to a mate whose kids raise a few calves each year. When they went to sell some previous years animals they were told by Wrightsons that they will only pay funds to the owner of the NAIT tag. As my mate owned the NAIT tag, they would only sell the animals in his name. Said he's going to look into his kids all having their own NAIT tags.
How is this going to affect calves etc raised for charities like IHC if the auctioneers will only sell in the NAIT tag holders name???
CO, Ive a friend who sent 140 cattle off but the scanner had a problem and some were recorded wrong. Now he keeps getting letters asking what he has done with the two extra cattle and can he please identify them. He was pro NAIT so i don't feel sorry for him as he goes and checks every animal on his farm and then works backwardfs to find whats happened. Its putting me off farming. However Im helping my 17 year old with her maths at the moment and its easier than that.
Im all for civil disobedience, its just when we get on a roll where does one stop?
My client has a surplus of compliant workers and wants to know if NZ could speed up its repatriation program with Australia. They were intending to wait until a major Australian bank had majority of asset ownership in the country and then make an offer for the NZ arm they could not refuse.
Sounds like paradise SoreL, I was looking for two but would consider just the one provided there are no ownership issues, caveats or the like.
I happen to have some currency laying about......what say you to 420million Bhat...?
eh..? that'll get you to where the action is,,,
moo cows you say..? cheese that sounds frothing.
Oh, and I would require vacant possession ( as in People) ,of course the cattle can stay , hunting and so forth...you know.
OK, so I have purchased 131 calves, over 6 sales, some were 3 weeks ago. One sale purchase of 51, NAIT tell me I have purchased 50. As for 2 sale days, no info whatsoever. On confirming these 'movements', I find nowhere to tell them hey dudes you forgot one, and where are the other 40 odd?
While at a sale, a dozen calves came in late, the NAIT scanner did not process one of the 12. Several of us buyers are watching, agent comes over, no worries folks, thats a NAIT problem, not our worry. Move along now.
I really cant be bothered with the hoohaa, and I could not give a rats ass if my records arent up to scratch. Cant say I am scared of these bastards either mist42nz, they can dream up a million ways to tax us and stress us, but I WILL NOT LET THEM GET TO ME.
I say this over and over to myself as I walk in never ending circles.
Christov - had a good laugh at that one. Any of those bureaucrats or pollies come onto my island and I'll have to "compliance cost" them into leaving and then ear tag and scan them at the border for traceability and biosecurity in the future. Can anyone recommend a suitable headbail for this activity?
I think what you are after is an Elasticator
https://www.google.com/search?q=sheep+elastrator&hl=en&sa=X&prmd=imvns&…
Or you could just blanket screen them from entry as probable carriers of Foot in Mouth disease and tell them to Creutzfeldt-Jakob back to where they came from......but I rather like your tagging idea, I'm thinking number three here.....http://socyberty.com/history/ten-terrible-torture-devices-in-history/ as the applicator, the inducement...? something that resembles an insider trading email should get the head in position.
Never mind all that SoreL...I just want to hunt down and kill some of those tame buffalo, and pronounce sheep marriage legal......maybe fit in a fish or two.....nope you can keep your power etc....I'll burn a forest, drink a lake, butcher a species, and dance on their graves.
Because I'm a true frontier Human...n... that's what we do.
Here is a link to the IRD's definition of employer or employee. Take care to read the top piece that states you can be self-employed and an employee in different jobs. Just because an employment contract doesn't exist does not mean that you don't have employee status. There are plenty of court rulings on this. Non-payment for work that you have completed can be compensated through the Employment Court. Such as the recently publicised American case here in NZ where the worker wasn't paid for his work for 18 months. Well I've been working for the State for free since 1 Oct 1986 when they first made all these changes and brought in GST and nearly every year since they have brought in some other thing I must comply with.
http://www.ird.govt.nz/payroll-employers/become-employer/ru-employer/
As far as I'm concerned I am an un-paid State employee. I don't have a written contract to supply goods or services to any Govt Agency as would be normal business practice. I have nothing to exchange in provisioning goods or service contracted to any Govt agency.
Therefore I must be a State employee and the State has never provided me with an employment contract for work that I have undertaken for them. They supply all the compulsory forms and websites that I must visit in order to the work. They set all the deadlines and instructions that I must follow. They tell me the how, where when, what, and why so therefore I must be an employee.
No wonder the NZ Govt keeps getting repremanded by the United Nations.
Sorry for the rant - but I'm over this BS un-paid compliance rubbish. In fact I'm so grumpy I feel like taking the first plane to Wellington and demonstrating.
Good for you notaneconomist..a piece of advice , don't arrive on a camel they don't like the stairs (spooks em) pick a security guard wot look like speaks English and is not clutching his baton permanently.
If your looking for Gerry , he'll be a the pie shop, Key at the Ritz, staffers at Belamys, Dunne at Church begging forgiveness for being a lying treacherous bas#$#ard, and Bill should be in his office pawing over the figures to impress John with when he gets back from attending to the education Ministers...uh um, needs.
Grumpy - you bring the MF, I'm looking for a wrecking ball, shouldn't be hard to find one around Chch. I've taken Christov's advice on board and will leave the camel at home although being on a camel might keep me out off reach of any baton slinging security.
All suggestions for what I can write on my placards/banners are welcome.
Hmm, can you say that. Burn a politician could be going a bit far, Like,' Ive a tonne of Ammonia Nitrate in the shed and a 100 liters of diesel', is definitly over the top, but quicker than death by burning. I haven't really got a tonne of Ammonian Nitrate, sold it the other day to a Somalian taxi driver for $500 cash, he was called Mohammed something or other.
SoreL - you are right about everyone being too busy complying. I am trying to find time to head to Wellington to protest and I have the GST, NAIT, OSH update and training, book-work to get to the accountant, building consents application to Council but look out Wellington, I've had enough.
NAIT is really the straw that broke the camels back - and I'm not going to nail my skin to the wall anymore.
I'll probably be...Nigel.....no friends....standing on Parliaments grass...(with my banners)....with the... wot you say....security guard holding up his whipping stick......telling ME to go home!
Andrewj - yeah I know...audit after audit.....care of the State......by the State.....for the State....paid by Private Enterprise. What are they going to do...lock me up? Would that not make me a Political prisoner? I'm already a bloody prisoner doing all this compliance crap.
Many years ago I sent the IRD an invoice for collecting taxes on their behalf - they audited someone with the same last name and initials in my home town. They even produced my letter and invoice at the audit. The Privacy Act can be a wonderful tool when the other tools in the shed aren't too sharp.
Yeah look I will struggle to make it - the CAA has just driven up and want to followup a compliant from one of my lifestyler neighbours who are claiming my helicopter spraying around their block is killing them and I therefore have no right to control my weeds - so it looks like I will be pulling the thistle chipper out of the back of the shed..............
Nah, Grumpy. If you were spraying the thistles by chopper before they moved in, then they have no cause for complaint. Tell them to grow some fast growing trees on your boundary. ;-)
I have a mate who owns a fert spreading business (trucks not planes). Gets complaints from lifestylers and the council stormtroopers come out. So far my mate has won every time simply because the complainants don't have the facts right - like there is no wind, or the wind was blowing away from their properties, right through to the neighbouring paddock not even been fertilised 'well I saw the dust from the spreader so it had to have been close!' duh!!
Time us farmers spoke up for our 'cultural rights'.
Saw a good sign in a field in Canada recently 'If you had a latte or ate today, thank a farmer'. Perhaps we all need to get signwriting. ;-)
I agree 100% - these lifestylers are getting far to much power and end up costing us a huge amount of time running around catering to their every wim. I'm starting to feel like Robby Deans - no ones on my side anymore..... We are seen as scum poisoning the plant, cruelty to animals (and staff), killing the fish, silting the rivers up, poisoning mik drinkers, making everyone fat, where will it stop I ask.
Last time I looked we were still the biggest exporter in little old NZ - it would be nice that it was appreciated by the majority that weve actually saved NZ from the pain that Europe and the USA ahave gone thru.
Sore-L - Nigel will probably be NAIT exterminated for not having a readable tag.
Key says NZ is the easiest country in the world to start a business in - he just fails to mention it is the hardest country in the world, to stay in business unless you are the Bank or the business of Govt which is hardly a business. You can put up with the weather, dollar, international effects etc but this enforced compliance crap really graunches me gears.
I have just returned from a communist 3rd world country and they have more bloody freedom and liberty in business than we do. Many commentators are indicating that Communist countries are converting to Capitalism (and that is definately what I saw) and Capitalist countries are converting to communism and.... Nigel-no-friends doesn't want that crap in NZ.
Heres another example of the "bullshit in NZ", my rates on my little block of dirt close to the Queens city has jumped over 100% in 3 years.
It would be great if Mr Brown could spare a few of the dole bludgers hes got sitting around and send them out to chip a few weeds while I lay off one of my staff and make the rest work harder to pay for Mr Browns dream............
These guys are clowns and got no idea what its like in the real world............... No wonder Barry Hart couldnt hold onto his bit of dirt - council lifted rates faster than he could lift his legal fees.
There must be a full moon tonite with all this howling Im doing today!
Some of us think that we also need a change from the BOTTOM....UP !
Voters : Stop rewarding PORK-BARREL politics
..... if the MAN is offering you a FREEBIE , an " ENTITLEMENT "
FLEE ...... 'cos someone has to pay
,,,,,, and that someone may bee THEE !
WAKEY WAKEY !!!
For years meat companies have been able to trace bobby meat exported and found to contain antibiotics etc back to the farm. If this isn't tracebility was is it?
Interesting ITYS's take is that NAIT is for traceability re exports when the govt says it is traceability re biosecurity infections. Whatever it is, is is just another compliance load of BS. The dairy industry has a perfectly sound system of traceability, without NAIT.
CO - Wikipedia definition of Biosecurity: Biosecurity is a set of preventive measures designed to reduce the risk of transmission of infectious diseases, quarantined pests, invasive alien species, living modified organisms.
Humans are the living modified organisms...Govts modified us to accept all their compliance. They want to reduce their risk of transmission of infectious diseases...(infectious disease is to stop the spread and transmission of any unwilling to comply humans)...they quarantine us by jail or fines so that other invasive alien species get the message and comply.
Traceability is as you say not a problem.....they can't tag the humans yet (they would revolt) so they invented NAIT...they can trace the PICA.
Did you know that when we are online on sites like this we are under surveillance at least 12 times throughout the day. At least they should know I'm coming to protest outside Parliament. They will be able to employ more boys with batons.
Well it does not seem as if it is running smoothly. I have heard that tags are coming out willynilly in transit. So stock heading to the works are now unidentifiable and will not come off the farmers records. And its getting close to a month since I bought my first lot of calves from a NZ Farmers Livestock sale and still no records have come through. They need to get their shit together.
Once you have tagged an animal once, ie with the AHB tags, there is no room to put the nait tag in the ideal position in the ear so it doesnt get ripped out easily. I have been retagging all my bulls and its nigh on impossible to get the placement right with the buggers moving around. I guess things will improve as we tag the calves with nait tags first up.
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