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The National Party tells farmers that if you sequester carbon and can measure and monitor it, that should count towards your farming contribution to carbon neutrality

Rural News / opinion
The National Party tells farmers that if you sequester carbon and can measure and monitor it, that should count towards your farming contribution to carbon neutrality
Todd Muller
Todd Muller, National Party rural spokesperson

Properly, big policy change like we are seeing around emissions pricing should be led by science and not led by politics.

Politicians come and go, governments change, but what should stand the test of time and provide certainty for New Zealand’s primary sector is good policy that is science-led and equitable.

Dairy NZ Beef +Lamb and Federated Farmers have agreed and submitted their recommendations on the government’s plans to price agricultural emissions, they are based on 9 key principles.

  1. The methane price should be set at the minimum level needed and be fixed for an initial five-year period to give farmers certainty.
  2. The future price should be set by the Minister on the advice of an independent oversight board appointed by all HWEN partners.
  3. All sequestration that can be measured and is additional should be counted. Industry stands by what is proposed by the HWEN partnership on sequestration..
  4. Any levy revenue must be ringfenced and only used for the administration of the system, investment in R&D, or go back to farmers as incentives. Administration costs must be minimised.
  5. Farmers should be able to form collectives to measure, manage, and report their emissions in an efficient way.
  6. The system must incentivise farmers to uptake technology and adopt good farming practices that will reduce global emissions.
  7. Farmers who don’t have access to mitigations or sequestration should be able to apply for temporary levy relief if the viability of their business is threatened.
  8. We will not accept emissions leakage. The way to prevent that happening is by getting the targets, price, sequestration, incentives, and other settings right.
  9. The current methane targets are wrong and need to be reviewed. Any target should be science-based, not political, and look to prevent additional warming.

You can head to any of the industry bodies websites to have more detailed read of their position and submission on emissions pricing.

Last week Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor joined me to discuss some of these issues. But what does National think? Todd Muller, their spokesperson for Agriculture policy joined me this week for a conversation on their views.

 

I asked Muller what he thought about the Government's current position on He Waka Eke Noa:

Well, we've been very critical of it, I can't really understand what they're thinking frankly, you have the sector, round a table, in support often by government officials to work through how the He Waka Eke Noa proposal could work right. Clearly putting agriculture over into the ETS doesn't work. We've been strongly opposed to that since day one.

"But another model which is perhaps you know, levy based, that assists in the building of you the capacity for farmers to measure on farm and then obviously investment and innovation of tools to be able to do something about it that makes sense.

"And clearly part of that balance needs to be that if you can demonstrate you've got you know, coverage, plant trees you name it that can sequester carbon, and you can demonstrate that then you should be able to count it, that should be a point of principle, and the fact that the government has rejected that, thrown it back really into the industry's face. I just wonder what went on around the Cabinet table, because one assumes O'Connor got the importance of that

Whatever you think about emissions pricing for farmers it is coming one way or another, there is no escaping it in some shape or form.

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Angus Kebbell is the Producer at Tailwind Media. You can contact him here.

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19 Comments

... it doesn't help that we currently have a government who're making grandiose promises to the world , based on ideologically driven internal agendas ... without actually bothering to consult independent experts & the industry itself ...

Real change , tangible results will only occur when a new regime assumes power  ... and does more asking & less telling ...

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You have obviously got your own political ideology Gummy, and that is exactly the problem. This should not be about who is in Govt.

In fact when there is a change in Govt the outcome will be just the same.

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... if I have a political ideology it is towards ACT's

Freedom of the marketplace , consultation with industry & research , support of science / education /medical research / innovation ... openness  ... honesty ...

... one person  = one vote !

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That explains why your posts make as much sense as most of their policies do . Fantasy land. 

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... you're right , I am a strange critter ...  I truly believe in equality  ... and I don't make snarky comments about fellow bloggers ... weird , huh !

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Apologies , I do try to not be personal , must of been a bad day . 

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I thought the problem with the industries proposals was pretty clear. They wanted to pay around 5 % of the methane, yet claim 100% of the carbon sequestration. 

if they want to be paid for carbon , make the shelterbelts 30 metres wide and 1 ha in area , and claim it under the ETS.  

Mueller claims the levy (ringfenced) has been changed to a tax , not correct. He also criticises the ETS as been too light on industry , yet it is too light because National insisted on this to give their support to it . 

He is new to the portfolio , maybe he just does not know these points.

 

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Todd Muller's not bothered by a couple of mishaps as the 2020 general elections nears.

The National Party leader gave a speech in his Bay of Plenty hometown of Te Puna.

An upside-down Tino Rangatiratanga flag hung behind Muller as he spoke - and during his speech he had to correct himself after saying he'd joined the Labour Party.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audi…

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Worse - they want to claim 100% of the sequestration by farm vegetation growth, while forgetting about 100% of the emissions from farm vegetation clearance.  If you can measure one, you can certainly measure the other, and it's the net result that matters after all. 

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Wow , didn't know that . Are you talking about current clearance , post 1999, or historic?

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Not pre-1990 historic, but post-1989, post-2007 and/or current clearance - whatever lines up with the sequestration credits being claimed.  Thousands of hectares of scrub including manuka are deliberately cleared each year and (according to MFE) thousands of hectare of native bush have been converted to grassland since 1990.  It's hard to justify awarding credits for carbon sequestered by riparians and shelterbelts in one part of the farm while other woody vegetation on the farm is being cleared at the same time without penalty.   

The ETS faces the same issue but to a much lesser extent, because only new 'forests' can earn credits, and clearing pre-1990 exotic forest makes you a mandatory ETS participant facing a liability.  So they can assume that a new forest will ultimately sequester much more carbon than any non-forest woody vegetation you clear to establish it or clear elsewhere on the property, and just ignore emissions from the clearance. That assumption doesn't work for a scheme where almost any woody vegetation qualifies for credits, with no mandatory liabilities (except for vegetation you've already claimed credits for).  

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Thanks , always good to get the full story. Well , at least another part of it . 

 

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Round and round in circles we go. You only have to look at the COP27 conference to figure out how seriously we are taking climate change.

Will Homo Sapiens be just another evolutionary dead-end? Possibly. But if we are, at least we'll go down drinking an ice-cold Coke.

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That's right chebbo, by all estimations we can expect 1 billion more homo sapiens every 10yrs on this planet till the expected decline when we hit 10 billion. WTF.

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Given that atmospheric methane is known to have a half life of around nine years, we can calculate that it takes 38 years for 95% of methane emissions to break down.

Conversely, 95% of the methane emissions from 38 years ago no longer exist.

How much carbon dioxide are they supposed to sequester and for how long?  Methane is a very short term problem and our animal emissions are in somewhat of a steady state.

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Out of idle curiosity, what happens when methane "breaks down"? What does it break down into?

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CH4 + 2 O2   ---> CO2 + 2 H2O ... 

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Stoichiometry correct - nice.  Yes, it effectively "burns" away to carbon dioxide through a series of radical reactions.  It makes up less that 2 parts per million of the atmosphere making it insignificant relative to much stronger "greenhouse gasses" like water vapour (which are also irrelevant).  Methane breaks down relatively quickly and the more we put in to the atmosphere the faster it breaks down because of first order chemical kinetics d[CH4]/dt = -k.[CH4]   

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Good question Mr Filth. It breaks down into goblins, orcs and trolls that rain from the skies, causing meteorites that boil the oceans and melt the ice caps causing volcanic explosions and stuff. At least, I think that's right, I might have got some of the details wrong.

It is all fantasy and delusion designed to scare the children and manipulative you into subservience, Mr Filth. Now stop asking awkward questions and fall in line.

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