
The Chinese open source licensed DeepSeek artificial intelligence (AI) that stunned share markets by supposedly being very cheap to train yet offering similar or better performance than large language models from Western tech companies, is now facing a backlash.
Australian authorities are banning its use, iTNews reported, out of national security concerns. So far, the federal government has nixed DeepSeek use, along with Queensland, Western Australia, the Australian Capital Territory, the Northern Territory, New South Wales and South Australia.
Tasmania and Victoria are still mulling over whether or not to ban DeepSeek, but it would be surprising if they didn't, given how other states and territories have already done so.
Where does that leave New Zealand? We have contacted the National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) to find out what the country's position is on DeepSeek. As of writing, there doesn't appear to be any official advice on whether or not to use the Chinese-developed AI.
A quick scan of the news suggests that the United States is about to ban DeepSeek for official use, and Taiwan's already done so as you'd expect. South Korea has done the same to a degree, ditto Italy which has privacy concerns.
Almost all services provided over the Internet collect or can collect information on users; it would otherwise be hard to interact with providers' services. However, Western authorities are worried that the information could be shared with Chinese government agencies which providers in the country are obliged by law to do, and that's where the national security concerns come in.
Here's is what DeepSeek collects from users of its website interface to the AI, as per the company's privacy policy:
Automatically Collected Information
We automatically collect certain information from you when you use the Services, including internet or other network activity information such as your IP address, unique device identifiers, and cookies.
- Technical Information. We collect certain device and network connection information when you access the Service. This information includes your device model, operating system, keystroke patterns or rhythms, IP address, and system language. We also collect service-related, diagnostic, and performance information, including crash reports and performance logs. We automatically assign you a device ID and user ID. Where you log-in from multiple devices, we use information such as your device ID and user ID to identify your activity across devices to give you a seamless log-in experience and for security purposes.
- Usage Information. We collect information regarding your use of the Services, such as the features you use and the actions you take.
- Cookies. We and our service providers and business partners may use cookies and other similar technologies (e.g., web beacons, flash cookies, etc.) (“Cookies”) to automatically collect information, measure and analyze how you use our Services, enhance your experience using our Services, and improve our Services. Cookies enable our Services to provide certain features and functionality. Web beacons are very small images or small pieces of data embedded in images, also known as “pixel tags” or “clear GIFs,” that can recognize Cookies, the time and date a page is viewed, a description of the page where the pixel tag is placed, and similar information from your computer or device. To learn how to disable certain Cookies, see the “Your Choices” section below.
- Payment Information. When you use paid services for prepayment, we collect your payment order and transaction information to provide services such as order placement, payment, customer service, and after-sales support.
Update A spokesperson for the NCSC provided the below response.
"The GCSB [Government Communications Security Bureau, New Zealand's signals intelligence agency] maintains awareness of developments and controls on technology in other nations. We continue to review our current settings as new information becomes available. Any security advice offered to government is based on independent analysis, to support independent decision making. In regards to DeepSeek, we are continuing to develop our position on this application in conjunction with other government officials."
"It is important to understand that by installing any application, or interacting with any interface, users may be agreeing that their data will be subject to the legal and privacy requirements of the nation that the company operates under, which can be vastly different to New Zealand laws and protections."
"We note the Government Chief Digital Officer (GCDO) recently released updated guidance to support the New Zealand Public Service to explore generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) systems in ways that are safe, transparent and responsible."
16 Comments
I support banning DS, promoting and maintaining NZ's 100% pure stone age culture.
Should read:
'....100% non Chinese hacked culture....'
LOL.
It's a piece of shit anyway. Not just security concerns but safety as well. Doesn't meet Western laws around harmful content.
It's a piece of shit anyway. Not just security concerns but safety as well. Doesn't meet Western laws around harmful content.
DeepSeek R1 has been integrated into Perplexity Pro, offering users access to this advanced AI model alongside other options. I use PP and have no concerns about my data security and / or privacy.
Whatever Cisco says is irrelevant to me. I have the ability to think for myself.
It's free and open source, just run it locally and don't feed it any sensitive data/information.
I loath the CCP as much as the next guy but this is a great tool. New Zealand doesn't have a horse in the AI race really so whatever tools we use will pose a security risk, we just need to mitigate the risks.
It's free and open source, just run it locally and don't feed it any sensitive data/information.
What sensitive data are people going to feed Deepseek anyway? Most people don't use AI for anything but frivolity.
BTW, I worked for a Japanese tech company in the 00s. People thought it was quite odd that few employees were allowed to use Skype. But there was a reason for it - the sharing of data with a 3rd party. Western sheeple never think like this.
I worked for the NZ division of a large multinational in the late 90's. When corporate email facilities became available in on a handful of desktops the local Director decreed that he be cc'd on any internal emails sent outside NZ...presumably a power & control attemot to "manage" his upstream group. That didn't age well, lasted less than a year from memory.
I work in IT and I recall in the nineties my boss would stand over me and enter the password for the dial up Internet connection whenever I needed to find some information. A couple of years ago I had a small argument with another boss about utilizing AI to find a solution.
Surely a career ending decision for any Govt dept or Public Authority head to consider if for Official use. But then again.....
So only 'Merican software is free from spying?
/sarcasm ... laid on so thick a plane could not fly over it ... in fact, low orbit satellites would be at risk
So only 'Merican software is free from spying?
That's what they think in the mighty Anglosphere. Ignorance is bliss.
just another ridiculous move from the 5 eyes. through these eyes, all Chinese are double-headed evil monster, and we, by we I mean the west, are pretty as angel when sh*t even smells nice.
It makes sense that government departments and companies would only allow certain software products. It could be a mistake to become reliant on software that is homed in certain countries. Services such as Microsoft are much more reliable in a business continuity sense and are far less vulnerable to political interference. Private use of Deep Seek is not being restricted.
How many weeks until Deep Seek takes over the day-to-day running of China?
It can’t take over as it can’t find Tiananmen Square.
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