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Saltwater flooding is a serious fire threat for EVs and other devices with lithium-ion batteries

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Saltwater flooding is a serious fire threat for EVs and other devices with lithium-ion batteries
Flooded cars in Clearwater, Fla., after the arrival of Hurricane Milton on Oct. 10, 2024. Spencer Platt/Getty Images
Flooded cars in Clearwater, Fla., after the arrival of Hurricane Milton on Oct. 10, 2024. Spencer Platt/Getty Images

By Xinyu Huang*

Flooding from hurricanes Helene and Milton inflicted billions of dollars in damage across the Southeast in September and October 2024, pushing buildings off their foundations and undercutting roads and bridges. It also caused dozens of electric vehicles and other battery-powered objects, such as scooters and golf carts, to catch fire.

According to one tally, 11 electric cars and 48 lithium-ion batteries caught fire after exposure to salty floodwater from Helene. In some cases, these fires spread to homes.

When a lithium-ion battery pack bursts into flames, it releases toxic fumes, burns violently and is extremely hard to put out. Frequently, firefighters’ only option is to let it burn out by itself.

Particularly when these batteries are soaked in saltwater, they can become “ticking time bombs,” in the words of Florida state fire marshal Jimmy Patronis. That’s because the fire doesn’t always occur immediately when the battery is flooded. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, about 36 EVs flooded by Hurricane Ian in Florida in 2022 caught fire, including several that were being towed after the storm on flatbed trailers.

Many consumers are unaware of this risk, and lithium-ion batteries are widely used in EVs and hybrid cars, e-bikes and scooters, electric lawnmowers and cordless power tools.

I’m a mechanical engineer and am working to help solve battery safety issues for our increasingly electrified society. Here’s what all owners should know about water and the risk of battery fires:

Emergency responders handle EVs that were immersed in saltwater during Hurricane Ian in Florida in 2022, including some that ignited.

The threat of saltwater

The trigger for lithium-ion battery fires is a process called thermal runaway – a cascading sequence of heat-releasing reactions inside the battery cell.

Under normal operating conditions, the probability of a lithium-ion cell going into thermal runaway is less than 1 in 10 million. But it increases sharply if the cell is subjected to electrical, thermal or mechanical stress, such as short-circuiting, overheating or puncture.

Saltwater is a particular problem for batteries because salt dissolved in water is conductive, which means that electric current readily flows through it. Pure water is not very conductive, but the electrical conductivity of seawater can be more than a thousand times higher than that of fresh water.

All EV battery pack enclosures use gaskets to seal off their internal space from the elements outside. Typically, they have waterproof ratings of IP66 or IP67. While these ratings are high, they do not guarantee that a battery will be watertight when it is immersed for a long period of time – say, over 30 minutes.

Battery packs also have various ports to equalise pressure inside the battery and move electrical power in and out. These can be potential pathways for water to leak into the pack enclosure. Inadequate seal ratings and manufacturing defects can also enable water to find its way into the battery pack if it is immersed.

How water leads to fire

All batteries have two terminals: One is marked positive (+), and the other is marked negative (-). When the terminals are connected to a device that uses electricity to do work, such as a light bulb, chemical reactions occur inside the battery that cause electrons to flow from the negative to the positive terminal. This creates an electric current and releases the energy stored in the battery.

Electrons flow between a battery’s terminals because the chemical reactions inside the battery create different electrical potentials between the two terminals. This difference is also known as voltage. When saltwater comes into contact with metal battery terminals with different electrical potentials, the battery can short-circuit, inducing rapid corrosion and electric arcing, and generating excessive current and heat. The more conductive the liquid is that penetrates the battery pack, the higher the shorting current and rate of corrosion.

Rapid corrosion reactions within the battery pack produce hydrogen and oxygen, corroding away materials from metallic terminals on the positive side of the battery and depositing them onto the negative side. Even after the water drains away, these deposited materials can form solid shorting bridges that remain inside the battery pack, causing a delayed thermal runaway. A fire can start days after the battery is flooded.

Flat silver batteries stacked in an array, connected by orange cables.
Most electric vehicles and plug-in hybrid cars use arrays of lithium-ion batteries like these. DOE

Even a battery pack that is fully discharged isn’t necessarily safe during flooding. A lithium-ion cell, even at 0% state of charge, still has about a three-volt potential difference between its positive and negative terminals, so some current can flow between them. For a battery string with many cells in a series – a typical configuration in electric cars – residual voltage can still be high enough to drive these reactions.

Many scientists, including me and my colleagues, are working to understand the exact sequence of events that can occur in a battery pack after it is exposed to saltwater and lead to thermal runaway. We also are looking for ways to help reduce fire risks from flooded battery packs.

These could include finding better ways to seal the battery packs; using alternative, more corrosion-resistant materials for the battery terminals; and applying waterproof coatings to exposed terminals inside the battery pack.

What EV owners should know

Electric cars are still very safe to drive and own in most circumstances. However, during extreme situations like hurricanes and flooding, it is very important to keep EV battery packs from becoming submerged in water, particularly saltwater. The same is true for other products that contain lithium-ion batteries.

For EVs, this means evacuating cars out of the affected zone or parking them on high ground before flooding occurs. Smaller objects, like e-bikes and power tools, can be moved to upper floors of buildings or stored on high shelves.

If you own an EV that has been submerged in water for hours to days, particularly in saltwater, public safety experts recommend treating it as a fire hazard and placing it on open ground away from other valuable property. Do not attempt to charge or operate it. Contact the manufacturer for an inspection to assess battery damage.

Often, a flooded electric vehicle will need to be towed away for further inspection. However, since thermal runaway can occur well after submersion, the car should not be moved until it has been professionally assessed.The Conversation


Xinyu Huang, Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering, University of South Carolina This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

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25 Comments

FFS. Never mind the oil and petrol spilled into the environment. 

A relative few batteries caught fire. People dropping their phones in the toilet all the time, we really need more precautions in case one explodes.

That would make the news, wonder why it hasn't.  

Putting a phone in your pocket next to your family jewels needs a study too. 

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Never mind that the increased storm intensities are due to fossil-fuel burning. 

But think of all the road-deaths being saved...

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My friendly AI says: ""Studies of the South Pacific basin from roughly 1981-2010s indicated a modest increase in intense storms (approximately 5-10% increase in Category 4-5 cyclones)"".

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That's a linear comment about an exponential trend. 

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In the pocket and too late to note the incoming call is prefixed 972.

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I knew you wouldn't get away with that mother in law comment. 

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para bellum?

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Another reason not to rush out and buy an EV to satisfy ones' environmental conscience. Watch the insurance premiums increase and the second hand value drop heavily.

Warning following link is not for EV or Tesla fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-ACbSWBQAU

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No it isn't.

But yes, despite the fact that your inbuilt bias renders your comments mostly invalid, EVs are the right answer to the wrong question. 

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This is a complete load of bollocks of a story. In 2022, NHTSA reported 36 out of 100k Florida registered BEV's caught fire as a result of hurricane Ian. These vehicles were submerged to the point where they are insurance write-offs. Yes, some moron owners left them in a garage where flooding was likely and in most cases left them plugged in! That's just dumb owners doing dumb things.

A total of ~360k vehicles were insurance claims as a result of Hurricane Ian. Most of which were written off. Yes, lithium batteries are a concern if they have been submerged, but so is any vehicle with an electrical system (all cars) due to corrosion and short circuits etc. They are all a potential fire risk and that is why any vehicle that is written off for flood damage in NZ is unable to be put back on the road without 100% replacement of all electrical systems. The US allows users to repair flood damaged vehicles and that is why so many gas cars erupt into flames after they have been repaired.

Any car regardless of drivetrain that has been submerged to the point of electrical components being inundated should be written off and never allowed back on the road.

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Had a great, eye opening presentation on the subject of lithium ion batteries at the UFBA conference in Christchurch 2 weeks ago. Sobering.

I applaud this author and article.

It's another salutary lesson in risk.... it's not the odds of winning/losing that are most critical, it's the consequences of losing.

LI batteries are everywhere and yes, the risk of runaway combustion is very low. Yet it is not, to the 'normal' punter, readily apparent when that risk has been elevated (think, impact, submersion, over heating, wrong charger, wrong location of charge, etc.).

Kids 'toys' that are subject to kids being kids recklessness or carelessness, have potentially higher risk.

In my opinion, these batteries need to be shown a lot more respect as to how they are handled, and where they are charged, so that in the unlikely event of spontaneous, runaway combustion,  there are not catastrophic consequences.

 

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Risk Quantity = Likelihood ; Severity 
Electric vehicles have lower likelihood but greater severity and that should affect how we act, prevent, respond in different situations. 

I believe EVs are a great way to a healthier greener future.  Zero tailpipe emissions in cities cleans up the sky.  Much less reduced drilling for oil.  Recyclability of raw materials.  

However we can't expect to maintain our current systems as the system changes. Our actions, risk mitigation for horses had to change when gasoline cars arrived.  And in much the same way they will need to develop and evolve for EVs. 

Examples: 
* Parking a car in your garage is safer with an EV than a gasoline car. Way way lower rate of fire. 
* Car transport on ships though is much riskier as fires are more likely to spread so new, spefic ways to deal with this are being developed rapidly. 
* Underground carparks, and Multistories again.  Very low chance, but risk management will need to be made.  This may be that EVs cannot be parked next to each other.  Or only in certain areas that have access to special fire fighting equipment until it becomes cost effective. 

The severity of EV fire (although lower risk) is not a reason to abandon EVs.  It is a reason to adjust and improve our current systems.  

Separately, the more 'scaremongering' by the media for clicks, the slower the inevitable transition will be. This will only benefit the oil companies, foreign governments and traditional automative industry. The depreciation argument is also due to scaremongering - The reality is that EVs age slower that traditional ICE vehicles as there are less drivetrain parts that 'wear out'.  Yes Some people have been burnt by depreciation but that is going to happen to early adopters of most technologies and especially those where the government not only cancels the promotion of an industry but then heaps costs on it.  (an I'm not arguing about whether that is right or wrong, I'm mearly stating that is the fact that government has effectively massively reduced demand of EVs by their actions over the last year). 

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Don’t make the same mistake as me and buy an EV. The depreciation is both incredible and terrible . No one wants a second hand one. Would you buy a second hand phone? I am back to petrol. It costs more to run but the depreciation on it will be vastly less compared to an EV. Less insurance and tyre costs also.

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Sounds like a spruiker to me...

Li/Fe/Po4 batteries with onboard BMS, are pretty robust things. As I recall, Ford Pintos caused more damage...

https://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-driving-safety/auto-safety-testing/d…

 

 

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check my link above. It's additional confirmation to your depreciation but in the US.

Another video by my favourite US car commentator.  I wonder if NZ Teslas end up in Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GZhZfFbfxY title is a bit misleading as are many YT titles

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Just get a used Leaf, great for around town, basically no depreciation. Buying a new car will have brutal depreciation ICE or EV. EV's have just been a bit worse as it still a developing technology.

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The past is not always a predictor of the future. Especially with a 1 year view.  In the future EV depreciation will lower like any new technology.  Your comparing prices at peak covid supply chain crunch and peak EV demand (due to government promotion) with now a more open supply chain and new suppliers and a reduced demand situation due to government policy change. 

If your making the change for lower cost I think your looking it the wrong way. 

Most people who change due it for the better driving experience and possibly then the 0 tailpipe emissions leading to better air. 

Regarding insurance - your correct insurance is high. 
Regarding tyres - EV tyre usage is on par with the most popular card types in NZ (SUVs and UTEs) and tyre prices are not much more and reducing. 

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More details please.  What car did you buy, was it brand new and how long did you have it before you tried to sell it?

 

Also, was there anything wrong with it that spurred you to sell it or did you just want something else/new?

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The statistics indicate that combustion vehicles are 60x as likely to combust as EVs. Who'd have thought petrol could be a fire hazard. Why is Interest running this kind of agenda driven drivel.

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What an arogant contribution  - you completely miss the point the author is raising.

Yes, we all know petrol is combustible.

That's why we don't have naked flames around it.

But Li batteries are ubiquitous and awareness of risk is way behind that of petrol. This is awareness raising

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I dropped a cordless drill battery that had just been charged and it ignited quite spectacularly. Since then I have treated them with a lot more respect.

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Are you willing to state the brand? Most higher end battery tool brands are designed to allow for drops of 2m+ without structural damage.

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Definitely interested who this is because they should be using cylindrical cells which are really resilient to drops.  Who was the manufacturer? Because If it's AEG I'd be changing out my own setup. 

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which chemistry are we talking about here?  I thought lithium-ion-phosphate weren't subject to thermal runaway?

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Nearly impossible. Not totally impossible.  Temperature rise is 1.5c/minute. 
Solid State LFP will mitigate this further. 

https://www.powertechsystems.eu/home/tech-corner/safety-of-lithium-ion-…

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