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Democratic Party voters will reach out instinctively for the President they wish they had – blind to the President they have got, Chris Trotter says

Public Policy / opinion
Democratic Party voters will reach out instinctively for the President they wish they had – blind to the President they have got, Chris Trotter says
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Joe Biden.

By Chris Trotter*

Howard Dean knows what it’s like to be at the sharp end of an adverse public reaction. He was doing surprisingly well in the 2004 Democratic Party presidential primaries until his infamous “Dean scream” caused voters to turn away abruptly. As he watched the debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump unfold on 27 June 2024, most Americans old enough to recall Dean’s downfall would have assumed that the former Vermont Governor new exactly what he was looking at – an unprecedented political train-wreck.

Interviewed by CNN barely 48 hours after the event, however, Dean was curiously unperturbed. Indeed, he affected a lofty disdain for the whole event. Give it ten days, he admonished his interviewer, reminding her that the attention-span of the American voter was very short. Contemptuous of both his panicking Democratic Party colleagues, and a click-hungry news media, Dean was at pains to tell the American people that there was nothing to see here. So, please folks, just move along. Joe’s fine.

Dean’s arrogant lack of concern epitomises the deep-seated dysfunction at the summit of the Democratic Party. Because, in spite of his spectacular crash-and-burn exit from the 2004 presidential race, Dean would spend the next 20 years steadily climbing his party’s greasy pole – to the point where he must now be counted among what MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow calls the “muckety-mucks” of America’s political elite.

Dean’s CNN interview revealed the corruption of that elite almost as unequivocally as the debate revealed Biden’s infirmity. Dean made it very clear that the Democratic Party leadership’s response to the demonstrable weakness of their candidate will be, simply, to invite the American people to disbelieve the evidence of their own eyes.

The Biden-Trump debate did a lot more, however, than showcase the unacceptability of both candidates. On display, albeit in different costuming, was the fear and contempt of the American people that permeates the American Constitution. In spite of the first three words of that august document, its content is devoted to ensuring that the decisions of ordinary American voters cannot be translated into unmediated political action. More bluntly: the framers of the Constitution saw no good reason why the popular will should prevail over the interests of wealthy and well-educated Americans like themselves.

If Joe Biden had the slightest respect for the working-class Americans who have supported the Democratic Party consistently since Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal” of the 1930s; if he was genuinely concerned about the upholding the equality of Black and Hispanic Americans; if he truly cared about the reproductive freedom of American women; then, having defeated Trump in 2020, he would have cleared the way for the younger, more vigorous, men and women of his party, by announcing early that he would not be seeking a second term.

If Donald Trump was not convinced that a good half of the American people were, at one and the same moment, as thick as bricks, and as malleable as clay, then he would not dare to affront their morals, and lie to their faces, with such breathtaking consistency.

Some historians argue that successful demagogues love their audiences, caressing and delighting them like a lover. Others, however, insist that the successful demagogue, like the successful con-man, has nothing but contempt for his “marks”. In the estimation of these “friends of the people”, anyone stupid and/or greedy enough to be taken in by the grifter’s pitch, deserves to be – and will be – grifted good and hard.

The leaders of the Democratic and Republican parties, were they genuine democrats, would long ago have modernised the American Constitution. It is a scandal that the Electoral College made it even as far as the Twentieth Century. The President of the United States should be directly elected by the American people. The idea that a candidate can win the popular vote, but not the presidency, is a democratic outrage. That it has persisted well into the Twenty-First Century confirms that the ruling elites’ contempt for “We the People” remains every bit as strong as it was in the Eighteenth.

The Supreme Court of the United States offers additional proof of how little faith the dominant factions of both parties are prepared to repose in the judgement of the people. That nine men and women, appointed for life, have the power to strike down any and every legislative initiative deemed inimical to the elite interests responsible for their appointment, cannot be deemed acceptable by any democracy worthy of the name. Unelected judges should never be empowered to strike down the laws of elected legislators. Constitutional principles are far too important to be left to the judiciary.

The endurance of these and many other anti-democratic features of the US Constitution raises the possibility that Howard Dean’s arrogant response to the Biden-Trump debate, while outrageous, may not, in fact, be ill-judged. If the Constitution’s glaring affronts to democratic principles have yet to engender a nationwide movement for its revision, then perhaps Dean’s faith in the public’s willingness to disbelieve the evidence of their own eyes is not as cynical as it appears.

For more than 200 years the American people have been encouraged to look upon their republic as “a shining city set upon a hill” – the exemplar from which all the other peoples of the world can draw inspiration. America’s Founding Fathers, far from being the landed gentlemen, slave-owners, soldiers, merchants, and lawyers which history confirms them to have been; men inspired by high ideals, but also heavily constrained by the exigencies of practical politics; are instead presented to posterity as intellectual and moral titans. They have become the USA’s tutelary deities: impervious to error; incapable of sin.

The horrors perpetrated by these heroes and their successors may be acknowledged, albeit reluctantly, by educated Americans, but only if presented to them as unconnected aberrations. All attempts to present such crimes as a feature, not a bug, of the USA’s historical evolution are fiercely resisted. Columbia, America’s symbolic colossus, her liberating lamp held high, strides resolutely to meet America’s future. Only the most impious attempt to direct the world’s attention to the blood and bone and gore besmearing the soles of the gigantic goddess’s feet.

Truly, it is easier to believe in the comforting myth than the disturbing reality. What Americans saw on 27 June was their President, a frail old man, alone on stage, unsupported by notes and advisers, made suddenly aware that he could not gather together enough of his wits to contradict the greatest charlatan ever to occupy the White House.

“This cannot be real life!”, protested The Daily Show’s Jon Stewart, his voice overloading with incredulous anger and grief. “It can’t! Fuck! This is America!”

It was by far the best comment of an overwhelming night. America was staring, horror-struck, at its very own picture of Dorian Grey.

By the morning after the morning after, however, America had turned away. “Joe” was back, socking it to ‘em in North Caolina. Teleprompter firmly in place, supplying the President with the words, facts and ideas that had been so evidently AWOL 48 hours earlier. God knows who’s actually running America: Biden’s speechwriters? Democratic Party muckety-mucks? The First Lady?

Howard Dean’s great insight, shared with CNN, is that while God may know who’s running the show, America doesn’t want to. Confronted with the choice of recommitting themselves to the myth of Joe Biden, or believing the evidence of their own eyes, those Americans not already committed to Donald Trump will reach out instinctively for the President they wish they had – blind to the President they have got.


*Chris Trotter has been writing and commenting professionally about New Zealand politics for more than 30 years. He writes a weekly column for interest.co.nz. His work may also be found at http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com.

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Joe has to go, they have good people in the Dems, they will find another.

The longer he stays the worse the polls get.

And Trump is a scumbag (who will probably win).

 

As always the deep state run the USA

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Joe has to let go first. After all the trying finally succeeded to the presidency now can’t let go. The whole scene is a parody even Hollywood would  be hard pressed to sell. The next few months when the Republicans get their dirt machine fired up will destroy Biden and his legacy. Imagine endless loops on TV etc,  of just the one fumbling sentence in answer to the billionaire question captioned ‘ you wanna have this bumbleweed leading your country.’  The Republicans know an energetic and charismatic contender such as Newsom will likely beat Trump which is why they are now swinging around saying Biden is a good president, needs another go. You can read it like a book.

 

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The debate was a tactical victory for the Republicans yet maybe a strategic loss - win the battle but lose the war - especially if the Democrats replace Biden. As I'm sure many print inches will be written and have been written the two current contenders for the presidency show how dire the political landscape is in America. and how a lack of critical thinking by the American population has resulted in America not being the greatest country in the world. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJh9t9h6Wn0

I would argue that there is no leadership - only self interest (and this applies to all politicians). While America has always been about self interest there was at least some sort of spine.  

The post truth world is failing, the noise that passes as news is failing.

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Scumbag? Possibly, but he took it very easy on Biden. He could have really gone after him and he didn't. God knows the Democrats deserved it.

Pray tell, who are the good Democrats you refer to, Kamala, Newsome? That the Democrats have tried to conceal just how bad Biden is from the American public should rule them out for the next two elections. I think it was RFK who said that the US is run by faceless men and women wearing lanyards.

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If it isn’t yet obvious to you that Trump is a scumbag then I do wonder what kind of person that makes you.

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The kind of person that doesn't tell others what to think.

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Nobody is telling you what to think. My assessment is based on what you do think.

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And my assessment of you is an intolerant fool with stunted critical reasoning, based on what you think.

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If you're remotely capable of assessing human behaviour, critical reasoning should place a giant blinking neon sign above Trump saying "giant diddlebag".

There's theories suggesting most people seeking office are going to be cluster b personality types though, so perhaps they're all just as bad.

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I didn't say he wasn't a scumbag.

Classic lefty playbook, the old ad hominem. I find Biden more offensive than Trump though. At least Trumps kids aren't crack heads and sleeping with their brother's widow. Oh I forgot, Hunter was on the board of Ukraines largest oil and gas firm, I overlooked his deep financial and governance experience!

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Potentially it's worse on the left.

Be Kind!

You don't agree with me? Well, we established I'm pro kind, so if you don't agree, you're obviously not a nice person.

Then again Trump's bringing back abortion debate. Anyone against him, clearly wants to kill babies. Doesn't get much worse than wanting to kill babies.

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Wow, pump the hate break there pal! This is rapidly turning into a perfect example of modern politics.....divisive, spiteful and full of hatred for anyone that disagrees with your stance. Now shake hands and lets move on.

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I think you'll find only one of us is being intolerant Smudge. Maybe the rest of us are tired of it?

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Trump is a convicted felon for paying off a porn star he slept with, lies so much that nobody cares anymore, and likes to fool around with the idea of dictatorship.

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Has he been sentenced yet? The lawyers amongst the group may know. My understanding is that Trump has been found guilty and won't assume status of convicted felon until sentencing. The judge may decide to impose a fine /penalty but no conviction? 

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Oxford dictionary defines a felon as "a person who has committed a felony". You are right that he is not yet a convicted felon.

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Trump is a scumbag. That should be extremely clear to anybody without a personality disorder. So your assessment of me, based on the above, really is reaching. 
 

How sad for all of the patients I’ve cared for over the years. My intolerance and lack of critical reasoning really must’ve impacted their care.

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Settle down folk. You are reflecting the serious divisiveness that we are all witnessing in the States. We lived and worked there, in a great and happy community, twenty or so years ago. Visited last year and couldn’t believe the change to society. To the point we were not at all comfortable.  No one reason for that, but the edginess and discontent that erupted with the storming of the Capitol is no longer latent.

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But what has caused the discontent ? This is a genuine question (and I don't think there is a simple answer (nor a simple solution)). There is so much noise people give up and soon certain narratives take a life of their own completely divorced from reality. This I believe is not unique to America. Reality eventually catches up 

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Talking to the people we knew there would identify three accelerants. Covid and aftermath. Trump’s administration, starkly one side or the other, friend or enemy. Crime never good, now drug fuelled crazy. All that brewing on top of embedded and escalating racial & religious divide and tension, 

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Ahh the second lefty playbook principle, claim the moral high ground.

So anybody who doesn't agree with you has a personality disorder? I really dont like Trump for what it's worth, we are contrasting him with Biden though, not a functioning human.

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I don’t like Biden either, nor anybody who actively supports a genocide, which is both candidates. They are both extremely flawed in many regards outside of this.
 

People who have personality disorders have personality disorders. Plenty of people disagree on things where evidence is patchy. Thinking that Trump is a reasonable person (you think he possibly isn’t) when there are dozens of examples over decades that he is not, is outside the realms of critical assessment. 
 

I’m not a ‘lefty’, I’m simply a rational person who uses the available evidence to make decisions. 

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I agree Crispy - I don’t think either Trump nor Biden are fit to be President. Both extremely floored personalities. 
 

Was reading (can find link) that 70% of Americans don’t want to vote for Trump or Biden, but will do so because they don’t think anyone outside the Dem/Rep nomination can win. What a mess the US has found itself in! When the vast majority of the people are going to be left unhappy with who is elected. 

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RFK certainly isn't the perfect candidate but the response to his run by D+R makes American posturing over the lack of democracy overseas look unbelievably hypocritical. Western democracy in general is less democratic than it pretends (there's a strong element of bureaucracy that - for good or bad - suppresses the more radical impulses of democracy) but at least in most of the west the democratic side of the system is still fair and free. Here in NZ, I don't like the high MMP threshold that limits new entrants - but when you compare that to the US oligocracy, it's a very small problem to have. 

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And many people in NZ still want us to go back to FPP!

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Heck, I even agree with you TK. Never thought that would happen.

I put aside my dislike for the individual, and ask 'who will do the least damage if they are President?' Trump could (and probably is), racist, misogynistic, arrogant and self-conceited. BUT I think he'll do less damage than Biden.

Crispy Kahawai-as a Dr you may be interested in the writings of a retired neurologist who thought Biden may have had normal pressure hydrocephalus  secondary to his SA. He's now revised this based on watching his gait and speech. Best bet for a lazy $20 is early onset dementia (wordpress luysii).

*I abhor his stance on abortion

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We probably agree on more than you realise.

Trump is all the things you say, but at least you know who is making the decisions.

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Early onset? - he is 81.

It is very clear he is not with it at all, the gaffs in the debate were one thing but watching his wife almost carry him off the debate stage was the final sign.

I don't understand why Jill doesn't formally assume the role. A bit House of Cards nepotism, but sounds like she has been running the show for the last 3 years anyways.

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Have a look at Audaxes post attachment here. Even worse. The lady must be either blind or in some fantasy . Precedent of course.  Woodrow Wilson, a democrat, was ga ga for much of his second term and the wife was said to run the show. Can’t do that these days Jill. Not with telly and on line streaming. 

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so, what did Jacinda do for us please remind me

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The only shot is Obama.He is black and will stem the flow of votes to Trump.Not sure if its possible as it sounds like some states have the nomination locked in and unless Joe dies he is their candidate.

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American Presidents are limited to 2 terms.

Surely you meant "she" - Michelle

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Yes "Big Mike".Barry is already controlling Biden if his wife gets in he has the potential to have had control of the Whitehouse for 5 terms

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As if the only qualification needed to be the President is to be an ex-President's housewife. At least Hilary Clinton was a Senator and served as Secretary of State.

What next? They pick some unemployed single mother up at the local PTA meeting and say "hey, want to be President"?

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Trump wasn't a senator. Biden proves being a senator and former VP doesn't necessarily make you the best President.

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You say "housewife" like it's a bad thing?

Michelle Obama - Wikipedia

 

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It is. You dont vote someone in who hasnt held a job for the last 17 years. Shopping for clothes is not a Presidential qualification.

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Obama was absolutely useless killed bin laden only claim to fame

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Pray tell, who are the good Democrats you refer to, Kamala, Newsome? 

From a US media editorial:

“Anyone competing with Harris for the nomination, particularly a white male, would risk being selected as the enemy of progress.”

This sums up everything that is wrong with the Democrats & liberal left. They think people should be defined by their race, gender & identification and not what they have to say and offer.

As in, it doesn’t even matter what people want & “democracy.” Kamala is unpopular. The people don’t want her. Full stop. What does her gender and race have anything to do with progress?

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Blinken is probably their best bet, not sure he wants it or ticks their boxes. They should put Kamala up against Trump, I'd pay to see that.

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Bye-Don and take the hosk with you. The hosk is soooo biased for trump he will be his caddy

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What an absolute embarrassment, hilarious watching the faux surprise from the media acting as if they had no idea…

This guy should have been in a rest home 4 years ago, god forbid the opposition were right about his mental acuity….

 

 

 

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Biden has performed very very well if you look at the progress made

Trump made promises and left a hole in the ground

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What "progress made"?

Everything falling apart for the US right now. The empire is in strife and at home they have a cost of living problem like the rest of west.

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Infrastructure act, Inflation reduction act, Pact act
Chips and science act. 
USA falling apart under trump. His touted foxconn development in Wisconsin didnt materialise so Biden had the site done. He managed to achieve fewer people employed, from that perspective was the worst president ever.

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Trump said.  "no more stupid wars"   Which was brilliant.

Only achieved some of that.  The system would not let even the president challenge that.  So he only got so far.

But a glimmer of light in a ancient, clogged up system, which can't now learn.

The USA is the oldest government system in the world.  And it shows.

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How did Biden manage the development by Microsoft then vs trump giving excessive tax breaks to a foreign entity. Trump is an failed businessman now failed and soon to be jailed politician

Its only clogged and falling apart because of trump. 4 times indicted, 2 x impeached convicted felon. Trumps playbook delay delay delay. 

Count his business successes on one hand, squandered the 100s millions inheritance his father handed him

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"The USA is the oldest government system in the world."

"San Marino claims to be the oldest constitutional republic in the world, founded on 3 September 301, by Marinus, a Christian stonemason fleeing the religious persecution of Roman Emperor Diocletian. San Marino's constitution, dating back to 1600, is the world's oldest written constitution still in effect.[2]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_San_Marino

 

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Good catch Kiwikids.  Thanks.

The longer explanation of this is that the USA regards itself as young.   And the new world etc.   And for example sees Europe as old and crusty.

But given that say Europe has destroyed itself several times in wars with completely new systems and government setups, it is not that old and crusty.

But the USA has had the same constitution about 250 years now.   And become ossified.  One of the definitions of that is excessive legalisms.   And we can see that.

So who is the stuck one really ?

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Trump also said if there was a shark in the water and his boat was going down, he would electrocute himself with the battery. And how he likes to grab women. And that most Mexicans were rapists and murderers.

Taking one quote and blowing it into showing 'brilliance' is not really taking the man as a whole.

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Read it again Joneses.  Brilliant was applied to the concept.  "No more stupid wars"  Not the man.

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LOL, what? From the perspective of the American electorate how is any of this progress? If you signed something marketed as preventing things from going backwards and they still go backwards does it count?

I know this a stereotype but do any of those acts matter at all when this happening:

Americans are choking on surging fast-food prices. "I can't justify the expense," one customer says

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Emerged out of Covid with high economic growth and lower inflation than other developed countries. Stopped Putin from taking Ukraine. Kneecapped China with the chips act. Pretty good run. Time to step down though

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Biden has performed very very well if you look at the progress made

Please enlighten us as to what he’s done very very well? And what progress has he’s made?

USA is falling under Joe Biden.

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The CNN debate revealed the corruption of the MSM  as unequivocally as the debate revealed Biden’s infirmity.

This article should have been written, and the elder abuse called out, years ago.

 

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If an 81 year old were to apply for the top job of ANY company, they almost certainly wouldn’t even be interviewed. Here we have one with obvious cognitive decline vying for the presidency of the USA. Absolutely insane times.

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If an 81 year old were to apply for the top job of ANY company, they almost certainly wouldn’t even be interviewed.

LVMH boss Bernard Arnault raised his job's retirement age to 80. Warren Buffett told him that age limit was too low.

https://www.businessinsider.com/lvmh-bernard-arnault-warren-buffett-ber…

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Go for the younger man then?

Incoherent Mummy vs Confident insurectionist Dummy 

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Trump : Millions are coming over the border, Apocalypse is coming.
Biden : The whole idea of the idea is ridiculous.
#debatebomb

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Considering that both cream and scum rise to the top, I'm not sure what Biden and Trump are saying about political leadership in the US and their supporters?

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The thing that matters most are the swing States and the swing voters. Historically those votes have far greater inclination to vote in the negative. That is an unfavourable perception of a candidate and particularly weakness and particularly in the incumbent. Past examples are, Ford, Carter & Bush senior. Here Biden, by this display, has already broadcast such a  position and defeated himself. The Republicans will hammer and hammer clips & soundbites of Biden’s downfall and the voters will readily respond by voting for what they don’t want and that is a weak embarrassment of a President. In reality the perception undoubtedly has gone beyond the swing voters to the wide electorate and Biden could well end up being. in modern times, the most heavily defeated President since Hoover.

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Be nice if RFK Jr got some screen time, unlike Biden or Trump he comes across as an actual person, and not some sock puppet.

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And unlike the other two who seem to be utterly devoid of intelligent thought (albeit for different reasons) even if a parasitic worm is feasting on his brain it's hopefully an indication that he has a functioning bit of grey matter. 

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Agree - I watched the alternative debate that included RFK Jr on X (after he was excluded  by CNN from the main debate). 
 

You can’t even compare the mental abilities of Trump/Biden with RFK Jr - they are on a completely different spectrum. RFK Jr came across as extremely well prepared with an understanding of the issues facing America and with plans to resolve them. Watching Trump/Biden was like watching a primary school class leader debate in comparison (ie between two 8 year old boys that have never grow up). 
 

How America has found itself in this position is quite mind boggling. 

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You can blame the Biden administration for this, there seems to be a respectful relationship between Trump and RFK.

Biden has refused to engage with RFK and even denied him a security detail despite wboth his father and Uncle having been assasinated.  

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Yes very poor from the Biden administration. 

RFK Jr saying he is having to spend $1 million/month on personal protection/security.

Just another move by the democrats to try and disable a threat to their control on power - not democratic behaviour at all. 

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" Unelected judges should never be empowered to strike down the laws of elected legislators. Constitutional principles are far too important to be left to the judiciary."

Yep. We need to talk about the NZ Supreme Court & judiciary

On Judicial Imperialism - by Gary Judd KC (substack.com)

How to rein in an activist Supreme Court | The New Zealand Initiative (nzinitiative.org.nz)

 

 

 

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"...the former Vermont Governor new exactly what he was looking at...

I know it's all about age, but is that sentence supposed to be contrasting old and NEW, or about recognition - knew?!

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The fact that the debate was held so early this year, unlike other elections smacks of a set up.  The fact that all the Left Wing media have so neatly fallen into line overnight with the "Joe Must Go" message also smacks of a set up.  This is how the "men in suits" get rid of Biden and replace him with their sock puppet of choice so they can stay in power for another 4 years instead of losing to Trump.  

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Maybe it will turn out that Biden is actually a Boeing whisteblower ... problems solved for the Democratic party then, as well all know what happens to them.

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yes totally agree.

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This obviously well rehearsed public backstabbing by his WIFE ties the bow around the whole chorus of other prepared betraying statements, leaving no doubt that Biden’s demolition-by-debate was orchestrated by his handlers to discard him.  Link

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Aye that’s it isn’t it in a nutshell. The man doesn’t even know he’s there. The next few months there will be billboard on billboard and video clips all over media depicting exactly the same images.

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It is sad but regardless of his competence, Biden no longer has sufficient public impact to lead the USA. The Democrats need to urgently decide this because the public certainly will.

In the annual 2024 predictions I posited that Liz Cheney could hold the key to the election. While it is highly unlikely given the entrenched nature of their political landscape, I would like to see her as the next president, because she is a decent honest person and one of the only Republicans with sufficient spine and principals to stand up to Trump. She is also highly respected by high level Democrats who worked very constructively with them in assembling the legal case against the Jan 6 Trump insurrection. I believe that she is the best person to bridge the polarized nation and push aside the Trump extremists and make room for a more reasonable Republican Party. With her leadership Trump would go to jail for a long time.

How to get there?  Either the Democrats put her up as their candidate, or they decline to put a candidate up in favor of her standing as an independent. Think of the candidate that Trump would be most afraid of?  I think it is Liz Cheney.

Who ever  people vote in as president, the crucial  thing is to ensure that Congress and the Senate have Democrat majorities

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The whole American system so gatekept by special interests to the point only candidates who are too compromised to make a difference are put up as candidates. Stop worrying about it the result does not make a real difference. At the very most you can delay some stuff for a bit.

"They" make you effectively sell your soul before your allowed anywhere near the seats of power and if you have anything left they will grind you down or get rid of you before you achieve anything.

Who cares about popular votes and electoral colleges when you have no one decent running. MMP is the only thing that partially prevents this from happening here.

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Excellent summary/article Mr Trotter.

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 the ruling elites’ contempt for “We the People”

but the definition of the 'People' had been consistently changing.  if look closely, the 'People' is not the People, nor means everyone, even today. 

 

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It would be hard to find a better synopsis on the state of the nation of the US than this one at the moment. Democracy railroaded by an elite utterly out of touch with reality. Excellent article Chris.

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Remember when Americans were worried that Reagan was too old for re-election when he was early-mid 70’s and this was his response:

https://youtu.be/fJhCjMfRndk?si=F8r4PWPhmEWly9xp
 

Can we bring back this level of intellect and class to debates? 

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Jill Biden is the one you need to be castigating!

Seriously any half decent wife wouldve pulled their husband out of there years ago!

Elder abuse at the extreme, and she says he is the only one for the job??

The U.S. is toast.

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I'm not religious but...

God bless America.

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About bloody time someone in the msm called out Joe and his dementia.  We need some new leadership and Donald has the gumption to show the rest of the world (looking at you Europe) that America needs to put America first! No more feeding the poor who won't try to feed themselves.

 

USA is on track to have open boarders like the EU and the American Empire will fall apart... Unless Donald wins and fixes the cracks in the Wall and keeps American values American!

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Yes we know Trump lies but a least you know what you get, have lived in America and married to one for along time and now back in NZ I'm not sure which is better, go to the small towns of America and see the real people like NZ, normal people. The democrats [left] have destroyed the place, Newsom has destroyed California ,Obama talked a great story like Ardern and did nothing for the country, sound familiar. Go and live there before you before you make comment as I would expect a lot of people who are on this site haven't. If you think America is bad and think here is better the why are so many of us leaving here.Dont look through rose tinted glasses to long in this country you might not like what you see

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Why does Mr. Trotter completely overlook that fact that the Constitution was specifically designed to ensure there were checks and balances thus ensuring dictators, or 'fools supported by fools', could never act unilaterally?

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At last a comment that makes sense, people need to read the constitution

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Can't the constitution be changed (amended)?

What if the sitting president doesn't agree with the way the voting process happened, and his supporters try to physically overthrow the government?

Their legislative system of checks and balances should work, but we live in unprecedented times. Handing power to a candidate who shows no respect for democracy or the truth seems like playing with fire to me.

The most charitable view of the man is he is just milking outrage from his supporters to keep his coffers full. The ultimate grifter.

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Sportsbet Aus saying Trump is $1.62, Biden $5. Michele Obama $13.

Sounds about right.

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Trumps walks into court and the auto-close door hits him in the face.

Thats the first time an arse has been whacked on the way in by a door

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The idea that a candidate can win the popular vote, but not the presidency, is a democratic outrage.

I'm looking forward to a future article on our 5% threshold and its democratic impact here in NZ given such strong concern for fair representation.

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I'm sure there are plenty already.  The Electoral Commission has been banging incessantly for years for lowering the threshold and abolishing coat-tailing.

 

But in the end politicians, by definition, play politics and tailor their campaigns to the system - whatever that may be.  In the US if the electoral college was abandoned then presidential candidates would just spend all their campaigning efforts - time, advertising money, vote-buying subsidies etc. - in California, Texas, New York and Florida, and no other states would ever get a look-in.  Which is precisely why the electoral college was set up that way in the first place.

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Bill Clinton - I did not sleep with that woman....

 

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There is a lot of talk about how he always puts the country ahead of himself...

But I have a feeling his wife said "no" to stepping down.

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If he cannot see it for himself, he is way past being able to be President....

 

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He was past it in the last election.

They have a lower age limit of 35, maybe time for an upper one of 70. Also apply age limits to Congress and the Senate.

The USA has all the hallmarks of a bunch of dictators refusing to give up power. https://fiscalnote.com/blog/how-old-118th-congress.

Interestingly for a bunch of so called "prgoressives" the Dems are even older on average than the Republicans.

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