Here's a holiday edition of Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10:00 am today.
The regular schedule for these curations and reviews will resume next week.
As always, we welcome your additions in the comments below or via email to david.chaston@interest.co.nz.
See all previous Top 10s here.
1. Soros worries about China
The biggest risk that the world economy now faces isn’t the stability of the euro zone or the logjam of US politics, according to famed investor and philanthropist George Soros.
Rather, China is the reason to doubt optimism about the global economy, he says.
Soros’s concern is that the Communist Party’s renewed focus on economic growth is at odds with its commitment to structural reform.
He also likens China’s financial condition to those in the US before the financial crisis.
The major uncertainty facing the world today is not the euro but the future direction of China. The growth model responsible for its rapid rise has run out of steam.
That model depended on financial repression of the household sector, in order to drive the growth of exports and investments. As a result, the household sector has now shrunk to 35% of GDP, and its forced savings are no longer sufficient to finance the current growth model. This has led to an exponential rise in the use of various forms of debt financing.
There are some eerie resemblances with the financial conditions that prevailed in the US in the years preceding the crash of 2008. But there is a significant difference, too. In the US, financial markets tend to dominate politics; in China, the state owns the banks and the bulk of the economy, and the Communist Party controls the state-owned enterprises.
Aware of the dangers, the People’s Bank of China took steps starting in 2012 to curb the growth of debt; but when the slowdown started to cause real distress in the economy, the Party asserted its supremacy. In July 2013, the leadership ordered the steel industry to restart the furnaces and the PBOC to ease credit. The economy turned around on a dime. In November, the Third Plenum of the 18th Central Committee announced far-reaching reforms. These developments are largely responsible for the recent improvement in the global outlook.
The Chinese leadership was right to give precedence to economic growth over structural reforms, because structural reforms, when combined with fiscal austerity, push economies into a deflationary tailspin. But there is an unresolved self-contradiction in China’s current policies: restarting the furnaces also reignites exponential debt growth, which cannot be sustained for much longer than a couple of years.
How and when this contradiction will be resolved will have profound consequences for China and the world. A successful transition in China will most likely entail political as well as economic reforms, while failure would undermine still-widespread trust in the country’s political leadership, resulting in repression at home and military confrontation abroad.
2. The specialisation myth
New Zealand has a comparative advantage in some key rural products - dairy, meat, logs, wool. At the moment these key commodities are serving us well. But is it a trap? Will such specialisation undermine us in the end?
Ricardo Hausmann says we may be on a wrong track. Companies should specialise, but societies really need to diversify he says. The idea that cities and countries actually do specialise, and that therefore they should specialise, is a "very wrong and dangerous idea" he says.
In the process of development, cities, states, and countries do not specialize; they diversify. They evolve from supporting a few simple industries to sustaining an increasingly diverse set of more complex industries. Achieving this implies solving important coordination problems, because an industry that is new to a city will not find workers with industry experience or specialized suppliers. But policymakers can do a lot to
This is why the idea that cities, states, or countries should specialize in their current areas of comparative advantage is so dangerous. Focusing on the limited activities at which they currently excel would merely reduce the variety of capabilities – or “letters” – that they have. The challenge is not to pick a few winners among the existing industries, but rather to facilitate the emergence of more winners by broadening the business ecosystem and enabling it to nurture new activities.
This is all the more important today, because the globalization of value chains is delocalizing supplier-customer relations. Cities and countries would be ill-advised to focus on a few “clusters” and consolidate the value chains in their location, as is so often recommended. Instead, they should worry about being a node in many different value chains, which requires finding other industries that can use their
Competition inevitably tends to winnow out the less efficient firms and industries. It is not the policymakers’ role to hasten their death. Their task is to identify productivity-enhancing interventions that can harness economies of agglomeration by adding new activities and productive capabilities, making the whole bigger than the sum of the parts.
3. What is the lasting solution to the 'income inequality' problem?
President Obama recently identified combating inequality is the 'defining challenge of our time'. He's right, but he has not led any big enough efforts to address the issue and seems unlikely to do so. It's an issue that won't be solved by reactionary policies - closing borders, confiscating assets, or possibly even punitive taxes (although progressive tax systems probably do have a part to play - certainly getting rid of tax-free gains and abilities to game the system by sheltering in offshore jurisdictions).
The only sustainable solutions will be found in ensuring the benefits of productivity are fairly spread. The more who benefit, the greater the purchasing power, the better off everyone will be. But without rising productivity (and I am not saying 'rising production'), a simple reallocation of wealth will just cause atrophy.
So how do you do that? especially when rising tech is raising productivity but the benefits are being concentrated?
New highly productive technologies are about to hit us - robots, AI, 3D printing, innovative bio-tech, etc. A handful of highly talented people are likely to get all the rewards. Most people will make zero contribution to these big new trends (although will no doubt adopt the ideas on offer), but won't participate in any aspect at all to their development or distribution. How can they benefit (why should they benefit)?
So far, the only solution being seriously proposed is to raise the minimum wage. I agree this is an important step. Living wages are essential.
But that nowhere near addresses the big issue. We can't have most people on a minimum wage.
There was a relatively short period (1940 - 1980) when the generation after those who moved off the land 'made stuff' (and not just physical products). There was a lot of public infrastructure being developed. Education was basic but adequate, producing just enough skill to drive productivity.
Times have changed to such an extent that 'education' is nowhere near adequate for most people so they can face a future with enough skills to be productive. True many are getting what is needed, but most are not. The job requirements for sustainable employment into the future are substantially higher now. If we keep doing what we are doing, we will have an even larger inadequately prepared 'class' who can never hope to generate more output than they 'cost'. In such a case, why would anyone pay them more than the value of their work?
The new education standards are scary. But probably no more so than what 1920's born grandparents watched when baby boomers first entered the job market. Today's 'boomers' need to accept they have been left behind in the 'job skill' market. That's not the problem; the problem is when new job entrants have no better skills than what boomers had way back then.
Education itself needs a productivity revolution - perhaps one the monopoly state system is incapable of producing ? Maybe the State should contract out?
The problem is we have too many low-skill workers. The solution is to get most workers being high skilled. It is no solution to just pay the low-skilled the same as the high-skilled.
4. The fear of losing money
Humans are loss-averse, some more than others, but that is true of most of us. It shapes how we make investment decisions. It probably answers why so many in KiwiSaver are still in the default or conservative funds.
Most of us will struggle to put together a decent retirement nest-egg - although by the time we figure out our 'mistake' we will choose the 'greed' option (as we saw during the finco meltdown).
Adam Alter has some useful insights into loss-aversion.
Almost three decades have passed since the psychologists Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky first demonstrated loss aversion. Since then, other researchers have shown that loss aversion drives real, long-term behavior beyond hypothetical lab experiments.
In one field experiment, four economists offered to reward Chicago schoolteachers according to how much their students’ test scores improved during the 2010-2011 academic year. The teachers stood to earn up to eight thousand dollars (roughly eight per cent of their annual salaries) if their students improved significantly more than other students with similar starting test scores. The economists promised one group of teachers that they would get the reward at the end of the year.
With another group, they handed out four thousand dollars at the beginning of the year, and told the teachers that they would have to return some of the money if their students’ improvement fell short of the average gain. Most reward schemes, from annual holiday bonuses to sales commission, work according to the first approach. They promise compensation for good performance.
But the second approach was novel, capitalizing on the sting of loss aversion. The teachers in the second group coaxed roughly five per cent more improvement from their students than did teachers in the first group, presumably because the prospect of having to return money at the end of the year motivated them to devote more care and effort to teaching.
5. 'It could get ugly'
When the US Congress reconvenes tomorrow, one of the first issues it will take up is whether to renew an emergency federal unemployment program that expired on December 28, cutting off 1.3 million jobless workers.
Enacted in 2008 at the start of the recession, it provided up to 47 weeks of benefits for those still looking for work when their state unemployment benefits ran out. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says he’ll try to pass a temporary extension, but most Republicans have balked at the US$25 billion-a-year cost. If the program isn’t revived, the impact could be significant - not just for the 1.3 million people losing a vital lifeline but on the broader American economy.
BusinessWeek has looked at what happened in North Carolina when something similar happened there - limiting benefits to only 12-20 weeks then making people go cold turkey. It 'encouraged' people to get jobs, but more importantly it lowered the participation rate.
Economic research has shown that some job seekers do become less selective about the jobs they’re willing to take once their unemployment insurance expires—the so-called “employment effect.” There’s evidence this may be occurring in North Carolina. A Dec. 20 note from JPMorgan Chase’s chief U.S. economist, Michael Feroli, pointed out that the state’s employment growth has outpaced national growth since July. Yet he also noted that labor force participation has fallen much faster than it has nationally. “In this case,” he concluded, “it would appear both channels are operative but the participation effect may be more important.”
It’s hard to draw firm conclusions from limited data. But if the expiration of jobless benefits is prompting large numbers of North Carolinians to give up looking for work, it would augur poorly for the state’s economy and the country’s, too. Working-age Americans who can’t find gainful employment represent lost economic value and unmet U.S. growth potential. While some may settle for part-time work, others will try to qualify for disability. Long stretches of unemployment reduce the likelihood of finding a job, as skills and connections atrophy.
As people cycle in and out of the unemployment system this year, an additional 3.6 million workers will lose access to benefits if federal insurance isn’t restored, according to a December report by the White House Council of Economic Advisers. That’s a lot of misery and squandered economic potential. It’s also why “the Tar Heel test tube,” as Feroli has dubbed it, is worth paying attention to. Says Chatterji, “The statistics are so dramatic.”
6. How to fix national productivity issues
The Aussie competition authority is calling for a major sell-off of federal and state assets, saying consumers have been gouged while they have been in public ownership. More in the AFR:
Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chairman Rod Sims said the federal government’s root-and-branch review of competition laws would be more far-reaching than business expected. The review should recommend the government relinquish control of long-held assets to maximise productivity and create the greatest benefit to consumers, he said.
“I think it will be the most important driver of how Australia improves its productivity,” Mr Sims told The Australian Financial Review. “Of all the reviews going on, this will be the most important because it will be removing impediments to competition right across the economy.
“Government ownership versus private ownership massively affects the incentives people have to drive productivity change,” he said.
Mr Sims said consumers would have paid lower electricity prices if the assets had been in private hands.
“There is no doubt in my mind that energy prices, particularly in NSW and Queensland, would now be lower had the private sector owned those network business rather than them staying in the pubic sector,” he said. “I don’t think there is any doubt about that.”
Outlining his priorities for this year, the ACCC boss said he would continue to pursue large penalties against big companies for breaching consumer laws, was preparing for a series of significant merger decisions, and was closely monitoring petrol prices.
7. A new pressure on the international bond market
Chinese banks need money - in huge amounts, according to McKinsey. To meet Basel III global banking regulations, which took effect at the beginning of last year and will fully come into force in 2018, China's big banks will need to have tier-one capital - mostly common equity - set aside that is worth 9.5% of their assets.
Most large state lenders, except the huge Agricultural Bank of China have already met these requirements, but in the next couple of years, China's five biggest banks will have to refinance 118 billion yuan worth of debt set to mature between 2014 and 2015, according to Moody's Investors Service and reported by the WSJ.
All up, McKinsey reckons they need to raise a third of a trillion US dollars.
China's banks have long tapped foreign equity investors for funds, but they are set to count on overseas bond buyers for billions of dollars in cash in the next few years.
The country's banks will need to raise up to two trillion yuan (US$330 billion) from share and bond sales in the next five years, according to McKinsey & Co. With growing levels of bad debt in a slowing domestic economy, weakness in stock markets and rising capital requirements, Chinese banks can no longer rely on share sales and the country's four-trillion-yuan bond market for cash.
"Chinese banks are…asking international investment banks to assist them to gain access to the offshore market," said Dominique Jooris, head of credit capital markets for Asia ex-Japan at Goldman Sachs. "This is a broad trend of China's switching to overseas funding [but it] is only a thin slice of their vast overall financing needs," said Mr. Jooris.
8. A body emotion map
Random link to something I found interesting:
Researchers found that the most common emotions trigger strong bodily sensations, and the bodily maps of these sensations were topographically different for different emotions. The sensation patterns were, however, consistent across different West European and East Asian cultures, highlighting that emotions and their corresponding bodily sensation patterns have a biological basis.
"Emotions adjust not only our mental, but also our bodily states. This way the prepare us to react swiftly to the dangers, but also to the opportunities such as pleasurable social interactions present in the environment. Awareness of the corresponding bodily changes may subsequently trigger the conscious emotional sensations, such as the feeling of happiness," said the Finnish professor who did the study, from Aalto University.
9. Unintended benefits
The new mayor of New York has recently committed to providing all 4 year olds in the City's 5 boroughs with full-time daycare. President Obama has made it a similar goal (although is unlikely to achieve it).
It's a political goal aimed at getting kids off to a good educational start. But the science is dubious.
However for parents, the benefits are much clearer; for governments and society even more so.
Instead of emphasizing the benefits of early education for children, perhaps we should focus on its benefits for parents, and specifically for working mothers, who bear a disproportionate share of the child care burden. And if we accept that early education is fundamentally about freeing working parents from child care duties, we might be able to craft a lower-cost, and more taxpayer-friendly, approach.
Conor P. Williams, a researcher at the New America Foundation, recently highlighted the impact of Quebec’s subsidized child care program in The Daily Beast. Between 1997, when the program was launched, and 2007, Williams observes that labor force participation among mothers of young children sharply increased while public assistance sharply decreased, reducing public expenditures and raising revenues by enough to cover 40 to 50 percent of the day care program’s costs. Williams also acknowledges that Quebec’s overall mix of welfare state policies is quite different from what you’ll find in the United States, and that the province was experiencing robust economic growth.
Nevertheless, the apparent success of the Quebec program shows us that even if preschool doesn’t give a huge boost to children’s skills, it could help their parents build a firmer economic foundation for their families — and give them the self-esteem and independence they need to serve as good role models. That is a cause that all voters who care about the dignity of work can get behind.
10. Today's quote
"A bargain is something you can’t use at a price you can’t resist." - Franklin Jones
35 Comments
#1. Soros is right but rather slow and late at working out the China risk. And NZ is now only one China war/revolution away from ruin- history tells us that they have them quite often. The Chinee "government" are a pack of murderous, communist tyrants and that country has no rule of law, but our NZ parliament over the last 20 years or so have become their Lickspittle.
Ergophobia
2: Who is "we"? I myself am not specialising in dairy, meat, logs or wool. Neither does the statement that NZ has a comparative advantage in these sectors mean that NZ is focusing on those sectors.
Is Government somehow forcing other people to work or invest in dairy, meat, logs, wool when they'd rather work or invest in something else?
In what way could or should Government force people to work or invest in something other than dairy, meat, logs, wool if that's what they want to do?
Arguably one of the effects of the success of these industries is to increase the exchange rate, so marginalising a number of other trading industries. Separately, their success allows them to pay higher wages/returns than other industries, so having a strong pull on the best and brightest.
Many other governments appear to be trying to mitigate whatever Dutch Disease, or Oil curse, that they may have, by actively intervening in currency markets, either by buying foreign currencies- e.g. the Swiss- or printing lots of their own money, or both. These actions need not damage the prized industries materially, but do help ownership of them remain onshore.
Even the Aussies are now aggressively talking down their dollar.
At some stage our current account deficit will come home to roost, although we still seem to be finding plenty of assets to sell or mortgage off before they do, and so our exchange rate remains very uncompetitive for many industries. Despite another article on the site expressing surpirise at our high exchange rate, my only surprise was their surprise.
If, as I suspect, our Reserve Bank do wish to moderate net capital coming in; then my predictions for 2014 are lower than many expect interest rates, and more capital management through other tools.
Can we really discuss minimum income if we are unwilling to discuss maximum income at the same time?
Inequality will continue to worsen as long as the "market" continues to value people and their labour unequally. There is nothing wrong with extra reward for responsibilities and skills but not at the extremes we currently see.
Productivity issues/discussion is akin to the slave owner/lord wanting more out of their slaves/serfs in order to accumulate more "wealth" for themselves. What is the real difference between then and now?
As long as mankind continues to define prosperity and success in monetary terms and the accumulation of financial wealth, as long as mankind continues to be ruled by the monetary system, economic theory and the psychopathic "leaders" in charge all at the expense of humanity and as long as mankind continues to believe themselves seperate from each other and their environment the issues will continue to worsen.
"The significant issues we face today cannot be solved by the same thinking that created them" - Albert Einstein.
An anthropologist proposed a game to the kids in an African tribe. He put a basket of fruit near a tree and told the kids that the first one to find the fruits would win them all. When he told them to run they all took each others hands and ran together, then sat together, enjoying their fruits. When he asked them why they ran like that as one could've taken all the fruits for one's self, they said "Ubuntu", how can one of us be happy if all the others are sad.
The issues cannot be solved by governments or our current "leaders".
Thanks scarfie. Happy new year. I saw your "rational" list. To be included amongst that group of contributors would have been an honour indeed. No harm, no foul though as I've come to realise that rational along with many other things is dependent on perspective. What is rational to you/me will most likely be irrational to many others and vice versa.
Thanks Hugh.
Keep plugging away at the obvious.
I can only concur on your issues.
We certainly do learn things the hard way, here in the land of the long white cloud.
One mans gain, hundreds, nay millions nay billions loss.
Rewarded for failure to perform the obvious..
Overpaid for failure to perform the obvious.
Knighted for failure to perform the obvious.
(Is there a trend being set here in in this beknighted land, the more they lose, the more then gain from it, or is it all a dream, an illusion now)
Now it appears, globally rewarded to serve as an example to others.
What gives Christchurch.?
Stuff that New Zealand.
Where did we all go wrong.
Sheesh.
Check this link out
http://healthland.time.com/2013/08/20/wealthy-selfies-how-being-rich-increases-narcissism/
As you probably know I am of the belief that it is a whole host of publicly provided institutions that support our economy. In particular I am a big fan of localism as a political economic system.
But what if the public institutions have been captured by an elite or people who want to become the elite. Will they serve the public and thereby increase wealth for all while decreasing inequality. Or do they just increase wealth for the existing elite by using their privileged position of influencing the institutions of state to transfer wealth to themselves. By mechanisms such as poorly regulating natural monopolies and allowing the creation of monopolies where they shouldn't exist -residential land, by politicians/civil servants becoming lazy and self centred when undertaking their public duties etc.
I worked for a family restaurant a while back, very hardworking -60 hour weeks, very successful in number of customers but only modest profits, they certainly were not joining the mega wealthy. They had a problem that there was no competition in food supplies since Raewood? was bought out by the other existing big competitor? So food supplies were of poor quality, often wrong in delivery/order details and expensive. How is this sort of anti competitive behaviour allowed to exist?
Is that the lesson to be learnt from the Doug Graham saga.
How many politicians in NZ go on to become company board members, directors etc. Do they add wealth for all or just themselves and their fellow elite.
Kiwis used to have a healthy disrespect for toffs and old money, do we need to re-engage with that side of our national culture?
My friend believes only people who have genuinely created something new should be mega wealthy all the others have stolen it. Is he right? Or is this the politics of envy?
Exactly Andrewj
I love these paragraphs.
The business meritocracy is in vogue. If meritocrats believe, as more and more of them are encouraged to, that their advancement comes from their own merits, they can feel they deserve whatever they can get.
They can be insufferably smug, much more so than the people who knew they had achieved advancement not on their own merit but because they were, as somebody's son or daughter, the beneficiaries of nepotism. The newcomers can actually believe they have morality on their side.
So assured have the elite become that there is almost no block on the rewards they arrogate to themselves. The old restraints of the business world have been lifted and, as the book also predicted, all manner of new ways for people to feather their own nests have been invented and exploited.
Salaries and fees have shot up. Generous share option schemes have proliferated. Top bonuses and golden handshakes have multiplied.
As a result, general inequality has been becoming more grievous with every year that passes, and without a bleat from the leaders of the party who once spoke up so trenchantly and characteristically for greater equality.
re #3
Rising productivity means rising production per worker. That necessarily results in either greater production, or lower worker participation. If you don't want to produce more, (as you imply) then you must have less people producing it. Asking for similar participation without more production under contidions of greater productivity seems to me to be a contradiction.
Of course one could produce more, but there are constraints on maximum production according to demand, and increased production also usually leads to greater environmental destruction, which remains problematic as long as it is not priced into the economy.
Income equality is in many ways a manifestation of the huge number of people who are being left out of the productive economy. And the reason it remains so challenging, I suspect, is that the market alone is not capable of finding an solution.
I am really interested to know what you think the solution might be, if the 'market' can't supply one.
Are you implying people should be employed and paid even though their output is not in demand? Who would support that cost?
Also, I don't think productivity is 'rising production per worker'. It might be, but Productivity is the relationship between inputs and outputs, and inputs include both labour and capital. The problem is that we now know how to get 'outputs' (ie what we need) with less and less inputs of both labour and capital, but worryingly, strikingly less labour. That is why the prices of most things (goods and services) are stable or falling in 'real' terms'.
IT is the main driver of these trends so far, but soon robotics and AI will ramp it up. Stunning gains in IP are behind all this.
Investment fuels the IP; labour is left in the dust. Increasing amounts of goods and services need very little 'labour' in the traditional sense. Even farming is getting in on the revolution. Labour is a minor input; ideas are the key factor. (In fact, I think construction will be the next big area where labour won't be needed. Anything where there is 'risk', the health-and-safety imperative will push companies to automate.)
How are we to handle those left behind?
One of the reasons I got out of being a computer engineer is that customers were being gamed. A friend who worked as a management consultant for a famous management company left his job for the same reason (gaming of clients).
We put in equipment, it provided small gains in business, but required large gains to pay for its self. Cutbacks and jobsharing resulted. Less people had to do more, yet for some reason couldn't afford to be paid more.
To keep up with the increase in turnover, more systems had to be upgraded.
To make sure sales gains were increased (often to meet supplier quotas to keep distribution rights) margins had to be cut. (market relation between volume of sales and price)
In order to keep revenues up, more product had to be moved (increase productivity) yet often that meant hiring new staff which was expensive or overworking existing staff (who were already overworked) or buying more capital to increase existing staffs productivity (..hold it wasn't that where we started). Of course,you could "improve your workflows/efficiencies"...but who in NZ hasn't already been doing that for the last 30 yrs? And if it's you please indicate your market segment below...I'd love to have a chat :) :)
problem is for many businesses it's difficult to continually move more product/service. Doing so, costs your customers money, and if they're not making at least as much as they're spending you're all in trouble. But they're selling to consumers.... so what's making your consumers a rich and deep market??
Who is out their trying to put money back into the hands of the consumers?
Who is trying to make sure the pool of poor folk is shrinking, that they may become consumers?
Hint: it isn't the "more productiity" crowd that's for fkin sure!!!!!
Yes, it also seems that work expands to fit the processing power available. It was interesting to watch the incompetents dealing with the dogs breakfast of teacher's pay processing. Unbelievably complicated pay system requires it's own special software.... and on it goes.
Also, consider the equipment needed to do what was previously accomplished by simply handing over a $20 note. Eftpos machine, internet connection, software, central hardware, electricity supply, special card, plus all the even more sophisticated equipment to make the equipment itself. Is it all worth it, or is it a big con?
yes, unless they can have the system cleanly working on paper (ie not such an idiotic over-complicated mess...should make the decision makers to calculate it by hand in their own time) then all that computerisation will achieve is to make bigger mistakes faster.
What I found "curious" is that the _law_ around fixing payroll mistakes is very clear. the employer (State) has 24 hrs to remedy the situation once it's noticed - there are no excuses or exceptions or redemies available under that law for not doing so.
There is quite a lot behind the $20 note beyond handing it over. Many of them critical security issues, count ups (w/ the human error factor), time lost to supervisor and tracking through receipts and takings after closing, (often done for free by management), logistics of storage and change, transport, handling training (particular the emphasis needed for accuracy).
On top of that it reduces theft/counterfeit and mistake by paying direct to account, which also speeds up debt collection issues (bad cheque in place of $20 notes - cause having eftpos to reduce bad cheque rate is no extra to replace the $20 exchange), funds are banked immediately (no key trustworthy staff waiting bank queues each day) and available against overdraft/loans immediately/end-of-day (again no rude surprises as a chain of bad cheques bounce all their way along a supply chain)
Yes, its a conundrum. The same one faced by the Luddites when automation destroyed the livelihoods of thousands of independent textile workers at the start of the industrial revolution.
Part of the answer is that the cost of capital is artificially low. The central bankers of the world are united in their efforts to manipulate interest rates down in order to save the hides of their bankrupt political masters. Is it any wonder then that machinery is cheap to finance? It isn't the whole answer but the efforts of the central bankers is clearly to destroy the value of the savings of the middle classes by stealing their money and giving it to the government. The side effect is reduced cost of capital and thus reduced demand for labour. The interest on the loan to buy a machine is cheaper than the wages it replaces. What a mess, no wonder the conspiracy theorists are having a field day. Personally I think the academics, civil servants and politicians are inept and seduced by their own complex theories.
I know, I always thought low interest rates were a good thing, but the question is who for? The answer is for those with large debts. They are bad for the thrifty and productive middle classes on whose shoulders a civilised society rests.
I actually think the warmaking politicians in the US and Britain have a lot to answer for. In a way the US financial crisis was caused by their stupidity in the Middle East. The US overspent, borrowed from China, pushed up the price of oil to the benefit of Saudi Arabia and Russia and exported their non military manufacturing under the guise of necessity. All ostensibly because the joint creation of the Sauds and the CIA went feral on them. SNAFU.
Ergophobia - to be fair to them, many of them don't understand that the majority of us (70%) don't have a mortgage and are attempting to save enough to fund a retirement and not to be a burden on the taxpayer unduly, They see the world only through their own eyes with little comprehsion of the bigger picture. They don't understand or apparently care that the majority, including the elderly who are now struugling to survive off their now meager fixed income returns, are being sacrified globally for that overly encumbered minority.
Yes that's the reality. If you're a saver your hard earned funds are competing with the Fed,BOJ, Chinese government,BOE to name a few. At one stage the Fed was willing to lend to the US government for 10 years for 1.70% and they don't have to forgo any consumption to do so.
True, in fact at one point it was as low as 1.38% for 10yrs, but now 2.95% as tapering becomes a reality and interest rates start to reflect the new order. But how committed CBs remain on that tapering path is very debatable though, but if they don't, we either get an asset collapse some point in the future, or much higher inflation, maybe both. Either way the extravagant borrowings will pay a price for all of us sometime in the future, but for the moment sometime in the future is where politicans in QE countries are determined to push it.
Zanyzane... I don't see low interest rates as being a good thing... in the same way I don't see performance enhancing drugs to be a good thing.
The progressive lowering of interest rates after each recession is a sign of systemic failure in the same way that a drug user has to use a bigger fix to get the same high.
Monetray policy is all about using interest rates to influence the demand for credit.... We are credit junkies.... ( The western world uses the model of creditism...rather than capitalism)
Low interest rates benefit you and I.... people who are risk takers ... people who borrow for Capital growth.... ( people who can see the windows of opportunity )
low interest rates = high credit growth = overconsumption = malinvestment / overcapacity.
Warren Buffet wrote a good piece ...yrs ago... talking about how interest rates set the "bar" for asset prices...
http://www.tilsonfunds.com/BuffettStockMarket.pdf
So.. it might seem counterintuitive ...but low interest rates are only a good thing for only a very small "window of opportunity"...and then asset prices adjust... (all else being equal)... and then u simply end up with a more indebted people....
The only long term winner of unfettered credit growth is the financial sector... ....
Agree. ZIRP is a dangerous societal trap which the FED will find it extremely difficult to escape from. ZIRP will continue for some years yet, during which almost a generation of property buyers will be seduced into thinking that is the norm. The longer it goes on for the greater the number who will join in. Those who didnt take the gamble early will eventually experience the fear of missing out and begin to jump on board. The greater the number of the proletariat swimming in the whirlpool, the greater the collective pain when the FED finally acts
without the thifty there are no cheap loans. the people winning on the cheap loans are the banks and governments (ie they can get cheap money while pretending not to print).
Capital is cheap over time. That's the way the time value of money function works.
The point where it goes wrong is the disposable/ high-fail rate of equipment.
It happens that way because instead of making the person available for other things, and the equipment adding deeper value/margin to the finished product - what happens is the money is spent, the capital cost grandfathered away to little... which would give a healthy spending margin. But instead of having that healthy spending margin which would allow lifestyle and hireage for new people, the money is respent on replacing/updating/servicing the machinery, at a higher rate (raising the cost to consumer, reducing profit margin.
- we end up with the Broken Window fallacy. We continual have to spend to keep up, but then have to continually spend to stay still - (no value added)
To work as desired the productivity gains from equipment have to produce value to the consumer, and the consumer must have means to purchase. High value "window repairers" have good wages...but are fewer in number thus require less (eg 1 car, vs 10 people buying 10 cars, result lower demand for cars).
This is good in areas with hire employment (natural growth areas) as the "window repairers" can all be re-employed profitably. In areas with low or negative natural growth (or where growth is negative but artifically forced up by government) the rehire cost of the workforce costs more than the value added, resulting in business/economic decline.
Where are the thrifty going to get returns on their savings?
Would that I had some kind of idea! But right now I can't see any satisfying solutions. As you say, paying workers above their outputs is not a desirable - nor sustainable - solution. On the other hand, neither is high non-participation. Bit of a choice of damnations there, unless someone can come up with something clever.
One thing that occurs to me is that through benefits, tax credits, social services etc. there is an extent to which we already do pay workers - or at least working class people - more than their outputs. But of course it is all done through government intervention, and the costs are not borne by the employers directly.
Anothing thing that occurs to me is that outputs are measured ultimately in terms of price, and prrices are set largely by demand. Right now, when the great majority of wealth in the world is concentrated among small numbebrs of people, the majority wealth holders have a disproportionate influence on demand. In the 40s, wealth was more distributed and demand reflected the influence of rather many more people. Demand was sufficient in that time to call for larger participation of laobur in the economy (of course conflated in that participation is the lower productivity, the need for more labour to achieve the same material outputs). Both seemed to be stable economic situations for some length of time. Maybe there's something in that, but I haven't really devoted enough thought to it. Of course it's one thing to see stable situations and quite another to see paths from one to another.
Yes the pace of the progress of automation is driving down inputs. Then combine that with the relentless search of ever cheaper labour. Africa the next stop one would assume. You can blame central banks for contributing to the savings glut. So much so that some neo classical economic theory needs to be rewritten. We are in the age of cross border borrowing and central banks acting as savers/lenders with no participation in the real economy. The idea that borrowers are offset by savers is now Old World stuff.
The very idea, that savers should be rewarded.
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