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Westpac McDermott Miller Confidence survey at lowest level ever as pessimism bites in NZ

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Westpac McDermott Miller Confidence survey at lowest level ever as pessimism bites in NZ
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The cost of living crisis is biting - and boy are we getting grumpy about it.

Consumer confidence in New Zealand has plummeted.

The latest Westpac McDermott Miller Consumer Confidence Survey has just recorded the lowest reading on NZ consumer confidence since the survey began in 1988, which given that the survey period has included the gloom and doom that enveloped NZ after the 1987 stock market crash, and the Global Financial Crisis of 2008, is pretty remarkable.

The post-stock market crash period and post GFC periods are the only two times in fact when confidence levels have been close to as bad as they are now.

The survey's consumer confidence index dropped sharply in the June quarter, falling 13 points to a level of 78.7, its lowest level ever.

And essentially it indicates that there are far more New Zealanders who are pessimistic about the economic environment than those that are optimistic.

Westpac's acting chief economist Michael Gordon said household budgets were now being squeezed in a way that they haven’t been for decades.

"The combination of rising mortgage rates and increases in living costs has already taken a large bite out of disposable incomes," he said.

"And with interest rates set to rise even further, many households will find the pressure on their finances becoming more intense over the coming months."

Gordon said the pressure on household finances is weighing on spending appetites, and he's expecting a downturn in economic growth more generally over the coming months.

"The extent of that downturn will have an important bearing on how much further the Reserve Bank [RBNZ] will raise the Official Cash Rate [OCR].

"If demand slows sharply – consistent with the drop in consumer confidence – increases in the cash rate are likely to fall short of what financial markets are expecting."

The RBNZ has doubled the OCR in the past two months to 2% and is widely expected to raise it to 3% by the end of August. It has signalled the OCR could be about 4% by this time next year. 

But many economists do doubt that the RBNZ will take it as high as that simply because of the 'bang it will get from its buck' in terms of the dampening impact on spending and the housing market.

The Westpac economists for their part believe that the OCR will peak at just 3.5%.

The survey was conducted over June 1-14, 2022, with a sample size of 1,559. An index number over 100 indicates that optimists outnumber pessimists. The margin of error of the survey is 2.5%.

One thing that has helped to get the economy rolling again after lockdowns has been the willingness of Kiwis to spend on household items - particularly as the housing market roared ahead. Now the market's falling there's been a massive downward shift in thinking.

In fact the survey shows that the number of households who think it’s a good time to make a major purchase has collapsed, dropping to the lowest level on record. At the same time, households have reported that they have scaled back their spending on leisure activities like dining out.

Westpac senior economist Satish Ranchhod said a particularly notable feature of this quarter’s survey is how uniform the drop in confidence has been.

"Confidence has fallen sharply across all age groups and income brackets. Confidence also is at low levels in every corner of the country, he said.

There have been particularly sharp falls in regions like Southland, Auckland, Canterbury and Northland. There were two regions – Wellington and Gisborne/Hawke's Bay – where there were small increases in confidence this quarter. However, that follows earlier sharp falls. And even in these regions, confidence remains very weak.

"This broad-based weakness in consumer confidence highlights the extent and nature of the challenges households are grappling with," Ranchhod said.

"The pressure on household finances has not been limited to any group or region. And while economic conditions will vary across the country, all parts of the economy will be affected by the tightening in financial conditions now in train.

"Similarly, the related slowdown in economic activity that we’re forecasting is expected to be widespread."

Ranchhod said large numbers of households have said that their financial position has deteriorated in recent months, and many expect that it will continue to weaken over the coming year.

That’s despite the introduction of policy measures to limit the pressure on living costs, such as the reduction in the fuel tax and halving of public transport charges.

"And it’s not just their personal financial situation that’s got households worried. Increasing numbers of New Zealanders also expect that economic conditions more generally will deteriorate over the next few years," Ranchhod said.

"Adding to the concerns about the economic landscape, many households have seen the value of their assets falling in recent months. Nationwide house prices have dropped by 6% since November. Similarly, the value of KiwiSaver balances and other financial assets have dropped sharply since the start of the year."

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Quelle surprise?

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  ... will the government be surprised when a grumpy electorate takes out its frustrations on them in next year's election ... this recession is a slow burner  .. after decades of borrowing & pump priming  ... the hangover will require a long recovery time ...

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It is not hard to see.

Bubble everything

Stockmarkets 

Housing market 

Credit markets

Commodity markets

It is like watching a slow train crash, the sad thing is we did it to ourselves 

 

 

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Sign of the times: op shops are going gangbusters.  T/O up 20-40% in the local one.  Partly the return of tourons, but still....

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Opshopping is also the fashionable thing to do now - some of the turnover gains may well be driven off consumer preference, rather than need.

In terms of consumer confidence, one of my clients was telling me yesterday that the big box retailers they supply into (think Farmers, Harvey Normans etc) are seeing a massive slowdown in the number of people taking up interest free finance offers. They are either a) not able to secure the finance, or b) too worried about potential job losses, cost of living increases to take the offer.

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Yeah, I hardly bought any new clothes (apart from socks and undies) for about 5 years now. No idea how places like Farmers, etc. are going to survive into the future. 

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Kids need new clothes they keep growing

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$2 clothes from Kmart.

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Kmart clothes are honestly not too bad, especially for the price.

The kids clothes are excellent value for money.

I also buy all my gym gear from there (the Everlast branded stuff lasts well, and is comfortable) and even have a few casual shirts that were cheap and have lasted.

The appliances are appalling in my experience though.

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We're heading back to the earlier decades, eh. Buy fewer and more basic clothes; buy appliances for lifetime reliability. Less frittering away of money on future landfill junk.

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Where are these appliances with lifetime reliability?

It seems like the more expensive models in any class of appliance just have more features on them to break, not that they are any more durable.

"Would you like to buy the extended 5 year warranty on your new fridge?"

"Why, is this model not very reliable?"

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Definitely tricky to find. Perhaps some base model ones with less software and smarts? Such as Miele have good ratings for reliability. 

Or just buy an older appliance off TradeMe (e.g. a National microwave) albeit they are less efficient.

Pleasingly, Consumer NZ is starting to mark down appliances more heavily for poor lifetime reliability. We do need a backlash against planned obsolescence.

I'm not sure if it's been tested in the Disputes Tribunal but it seems like the fact a store would offer a 5-year extended warranty on an appliance should be a signal to the tribunal that the store expects it to last at least 5 years, thus the CGA should by default apply for that extended term anyway.

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Best idea the EU had.. hope it comes to fruition:

  • 77% of EU citizens would rather fix a device than buy a new one

  • Consumers must be able to choose longer lasting, repairable products

  • Defining obsolescence as unfair commercial practice

  • A legislative proposal on a right to repair a key EU initiative for 2022

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220401IPR26537/righ…

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Right to repair case against John Deere in USA hopefully is the start of  a movement to guarentee repairability for at least 10 years.

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Where are these appliances with lifetime reliability?

If you check consumer.org.nz reviews it's easy to spot them.  Bosch and LG generally pretty good, but it does vary a bit on product type.  Not lifetime (80 years??) but much longer than average.

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Isnt it awesome. Feels like we came back to the real world (after a decade or two of believing in free money and an endless supply of throwaway stuff).

 

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.. reality bites .. and not before time ... dont we wish we still had Bill English running the finances , and not Robbo ... spend & splurge , tax tax , borrow ... spend & splurge ... 

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Bill English...makes good pizza I hear and lots of kids, not much else 

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The Italians will be kicking themselves over this, how could they have missed the obvious, spaghetti on a pizza was a no-brainer.

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Followed by the worst PM in living memory. 

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Ardern or Muldoon ... that's a tough one to split ... I'll call it a draw ... one excruciatingly awful PM from the Blue corner , one from the Red ...

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You forgot Key. That's 2 in the blue corner. Clarke and Cullen, Shipley? It would appear the talent pool has just become a swamp over time.

But let's not focus on the negatives. Who was the best PM?

I'd put Savage up there and that was way before my time.

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Ardern is basically John Key 2.0 on some of these most critical issues, unfortunately. More can kicking on the housing debt bubble and productivity problems.

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I thank Robbo and his clowns for inflating house prices at just the moment I wanted to sell up, semi retire and become debt free, will I vote for him - hell would freeze first.

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I remember the time when mothers used flour bags to make boys underpants! The flour makers printed patterns on the bags - I guess to try & make more attractive!

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Who is making them? and how is anyone making a profit at that price?

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It must be the real estate agents and property speculators, they have no morals I've been told, surely it's them

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Businesses are going to hurt big time.

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I don't see it, for example everyone seems pretty upbeat on interest.co comments...

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Still a lot of traffic on the roads every day too. I firmly believe there will be a large segment of kiwis struggling a lot right now, but what I'm seeing day to day is most people are intent on keeping up with the Jones' despite rising costs. Still a lot of people in the cafes and restaurants, for now at least.

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Could be a local coffee and muffin replacing the trip to the Gold coast.

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I reckon its the downside of having all these fixed mortgages..  we have to wait quite a while for an impact to be felt

 

 

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Keep an “ear” out for boy racers this weekend, still burning petrol racing up and down the streets, not feeling the pinch yet.

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 There were two regions – Wellington and Gisborne/Hawke's Bay – where there were small increases in confidence this quarter

Bureaucrats see no reason to worry while Cindy & Co. has continued plans to spend up big for the foreseeable future.

Hawke's Bay is certainly the most popular destination among Wellingtonians looking for a break from the Southerly blasts.

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In HB the confidence to some extent relates to the opening of the borders enabling workers to be recruited into the horticultural sector - a major relief for many businesses after such draconian measures to prevent imported workers left fruit rotting on trees last season

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Perhaps they only surveyed the DGMs that TTP talks of......

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Telling the truth is never DGM 

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Consumer spending (electronic card data) has been locked in with GDP trends since 2011 - but it detached in March 2020 and is now flatlining as money is diverted into mortgage payments, rising insurance costs, big increases in Govt rates, higher energy costs etc. Add in a Govt that wants to move back to taxing more than it spends and you have a looming crash. Mortgage rates will be back below 4% by year end.    

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Add in a Govt that wants to move back to taxing more than it spends

That's incorrect. The Treasury's latest publication (BEFU 2022) forecasts the government to spend more than it taxes until fiscal year 2025/26. In fact, the Crown is expected to borrow a further $22.4 billion in the next couple of years to meet this extra spending.

Part of the problem is that the government isn't pulling back on policy tweaks and big spending plans as it should. Those extra dollars pumped into the economy by the government end up chasing goods and services in the short run at least, and may have to be compensated with bigger OCR hikes.

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The borrowing is a bit irrelevant to be honest - the Crown has $33 billion in its current account, so they could spend $30 billion into the economy tomorrow without 'borrowing' a dollar. Similarly, they could borrow $22.4 billion tomorrow and leave the cash sat in their current account making zero difference to the real economy (other than removing a bit of liquidity)

What matters for stimulus is the Govt 'fiscal impulse' - how quickly Govt adds net money into the economy through spending (minus taxes) - and what this money is spent on. Between March 2020 and October 2020, Govt added net $30 billion into the economy, and at the end of 2021 / early 2022, they injected another net $20bn over the course of a few months. You can see actual Govt net spending each month in the RBNZ D10 data.

If Govt do borrow $22.4 billion over the next two years AND they spend this into the economy AND they only tax as much out as they forecast (they almost always underestimate this), then this would still be a slow down in fiscal stimulus compared to the last year or so.

The small amount of net Govt spending could potentially lead to the prices of some goods or services being bid up (building materials and rents for example?) But, it's small beer compared to other drivers.        

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This will be off the chart by September as import inflation ramps up. 

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The survey was conducted over June 1-14, 2022, with a sample size of 1,559. An index number over 100 indicates that optimists outnumber pessimists. The margin of error of the survey is 2.5%.

This is the thing, it's functionally live data barely a week old. It's not an inflation figure that's been through the ringer over the course of weeks and weeks while discussions are had in hushed tones about weighting and flatscreens TV. We're heading for a new era of discretionary spending where fewer and fewer people will even entertain the idea - to paraphrase a well-known culture phrase ' The Mood is the message '. 

Are we listening? Or are we going to convince ourselves that the next lot of CPI data will show anything different? I'd love to know our PM/Finance Minister's thoughts on this most-current data, without a journalist allowing them to fall back on the CPI or Cost of Living Payment nonsense that clearly hasn't even touched the sides.

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The Prime Minister is busy getting the most out of the 757 before she has to go back to flying commercial again in late 2023. Carbon footprint be dammed. The trick is to take plenty of media hangers on along for a ride to keep the noise down.

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All those photos in exotic locations is suppose to boost the peasants confidence.

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The issue we face is that even with a pull back in consumer spending, we may continue to see high levels of inflation for many every day essentials like food and other goods. This due to multiple factors playing out globally now. Stagflation looks to be the situation for NZ and many other countries going forward for a while. 

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Indeed, and you called it a while ago

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PS, happy birthday mate, I hope you had a good one

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Cheers mate. Catch up soon! 

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Wait until everyone knows someone who knows someone that just got made redundant. Then all bets are off. If you are working from home. Start showing up in the office more. At least they will have to fire you face to face then instead of on a Zoom call.

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Probably why Grant Robertson is rushing through an insurance scheme to keep property mortgages paid and Aussie banks getting their inflows, all on the taxpayers.

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I'd like to see Adrian Orr give another speech about the "wealth effect".

He owes it to us all to give us an update on how the "wealth effect" is working out for our country.   

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In fairness, they didn't necessarily expect the bill to come due in this soon a timeframe. The idea was always to live it up and pass the cost to following generations, not to have to deal with the mess in the near term. This is all a bit untoward, right now. Fancy having to deal with the cost of one's own lifestyle!

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Fewer avocados on coffee, less toast at cafes, cut back on trips to Bali/Top 10 holiday caravan parks, lower your expectations, move to the Chathams etc 

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Been back to Bali in April, was wonderful!

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Who is they? The one's who promoted the wealth effect or the one's who bought into it and borrowed up large for their illusion of wealth?

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Yes.

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And we are yet to see anyone held responsible... It's all global influences they say. Well we lowered LVRs in this country to ensure the property Ponzi took another step. We borrowed hugely to fund low interest rates. We are still giving tax payers funded money to foreign banks so that they can lend it back to us at extortionate rates and offshore the profits... We need to see accountability for the stupidity making financial decisions in this country.

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In a better world, we would watch Adrian Orr hari kari on the 6pm news.

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Thats rather disgusting..

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Perhaps figuratively would be appropriate. CHASE him out of Dodge at least..

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Rbnz only kpi was inflation (before grant tinkered with it. ... in any other business missing your kpi by such a massive margin would result in a lack of bonus, demotion or firing... so the next guys know there is a consequence.

In reserve banks its all good. Must try better next time.

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I thought this was the plan - scare the bejesus out of everybody so we stay home and dont buy anything

Inflation rates drop quickly and before election day.  Then the  guv can announce a cut in interest rates and voila everyone here in gods own is saved. Orr and Jacinda get knighthoods and go off to run the UN and IMF

I see a kiddy's fairy tale story coming  

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There is too much  strategy in that scenario for people who have been unable to even spell the word.

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Grant can spell but only one word TAX.

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The sun is out in Christchurch for the shortest day of the year so it can't all be bad. 

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... tomorrow we get 1 whole minute more daylight than today , joy ... Mankini time !

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