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A review of things you need to know before you sign off on Monday; only minor retail rate changes, Barfoot volumes up while prices drop, cold snap jerks power prices up, some equity markets roiled, swaps down, NZD holds, & more

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A review of things you need to know before you sign off on Monday; only minor retail rate changes, Barfoot volumes up while prices drop, cold snap jerks power prices up, some equity markets roiled, swaps down, NZD holds, & more

Here are the key things you need to know before you leave work today (or if you already work from home, before you shutdown your laptop).

MORTGAGE/LOAN RATE CHANGES
Two building societies, WBS and Heretaunga BS both reduced fixed home loan rates today. All rates are here.

TERM DEPOSIT/SAVINGS RATE CHANGES
Heartland Bank reduced TD rates today, as did the Police Credit Union, Heretaunga BS, and China Construction Bank. All updated rates less than 1 year are here, for 1-5 years, they are here.

MORE SALES AT LOWER PRICES
Dominant Auckland realtor Barfoot & Thompson said their average selling price dropped -$108,700 in July and the median price was down -$50,000. But that fall helped push sales volumes up with vendors 'prepared to meet the market' to get a transaction done.

HOLDING
Commodity prices were little-changed in July in NZD, but down from June to May's level in USD. However. that still makes then more than +8% higher than year ago levels in USD, +11% in NZD.

GRIM WINTER TRADING
Retail spending as monitored by payments processor Worldline was weaker in July. In fact only two regions booked an increase from the same month a year ago - Whanganui and Marlborough. It will make grim reading for retailers.

NATURAL HAZARD INSURANCE COVER
The Natural Hazards Commission (ex-EQC) says a NielsenIQ report has found that only a third (33%) of insured homeowners are confident they know what damage to their home would or would not be covered by insurance after a natural hazard event. Even fewer (26%) were confident they understood what would be covered for damage to their land. They have five suggestions.

PROCEEDS OF CRIME RECOVERY
The Police have recovered almost $620,000 as proceeds from crime in relation to illegal gambling (poker) and money laundering, related to an operation run by a Lower Hutt man, Thomas Mackay Taniwha. This was in addition to the Court penalty of $16,500.

NEW DIRECTOR FOR RABOBANK NZ
Angelique Meddeler, the Netherlands-based Chief Compliance Officer for the Rabobank Group, joins the Rabobank NZ board effective today. Rabobank NZ Chairman Chris Black says Meddeler’s extensive experience in international banking and strong knowledge of the regulatory landscape make her an ideal fit.

EYEWATERING EXPENDS
This cold snap is driving very high electricity prices nationwide and now all day long. Hydro lake levels are low and flows are below normal.

SWAP RATES FALL AGAIN
Wholesale swap rates are probably lower today across the curve, possibly sharply. Our chart below will record the final positions. The 90 day bank bill rate is down -11 bps at 5.33% and a new 500 day low, back to the level just before the surprise +50 bps OCR hike in April 2023. The Australian 10 year bond yield is down -2 bps from this time yesterday to 4.05%. The China 10 year bond rate is still at 2.12% and an all-time record low. The NZ Government 10 year bond rate is down -6 bps at 4.21% and the earlier RBNZ fix was at 4.17% and down -5 bps from Friday. The UST 10yr yield is down another -2 bps from this morning at 3.77%. Their 2yr is now at 3.86%, so that curve is now inverted much less, now by -9 bps. That is near the least inversion in two years.

EQUITIES IN MORE RETREATS
The NZX50 is down -1.7% in late trade on the global risk pullback. But the ASX200 is down a sharper -2.5% in afternoon trade. Worse, Tokyo has opened its Monday trade down another -4.6% in a crushing retreat. Hong Kong is down -0.6% at its open. Shanghai is down -0.2%. Singapore is down -2.8%. Wall Street is looking to open its Monday session tomorrow with the futures markets suggesting the S&P500 will open -0.8% lower than Friday's close

OIL HOLDS LOWER
The oil price is little-changed from this morning's open at US$73.50/bbl in the US, and at just over US$77/bbl for the international Brent price.

CARBON PRICE HOLDS
Today the carbon price is still at $53/NZU today unchanged from Friday. That puts it little-different than the same day a year ago, which back then was a period of unusual volatility. See our new daily chart tracker of the NZU price for carbon, courtesy of emsTradepoint.

GOLD HOLDS
In early Asian trade, gold is little-changed from this morning at US$2442/oz.

NZD HOLDS
The Kiwi dollar is little-changed from this morning, still at 59.5 USc. Against the Aussie we are up +10 bps at 91.6 AUc. Against the euro we are at 54.5 euro cents. This all means the TWI-5 is still basically at 68.4.

BITCOIN CRASHES LOWER
The bitcoin price is sharply lower, even from where we were this morning. It is down another -7.3% in those eight hours to US$53,891. Volatility of the past 24 hours has been extreme at just on +/- 8%.

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161 Comments

Great reading/gossip about Du Val.

https://www.reddit.com/r/auckland/s/4uGw7Eqmxz

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Finally Hugh, someone with something of value..... The link to the earlier post was even more damning.

Who are the directors of Du Val?  They are shady as all get out - those two are 100% off to the bum factory.....

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Who are the directors of Du Val?  They are shady as all get out - those two are 100% off to the bum factory....

This is what you get with Ponzinomics. Such people are encouraged, respected, and believed. 

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    This is what you get when people are too stupid to understand that depositing with a former bankrupt because the rate is higher than a bank might not be a great idea.

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    Stupidity plus greed

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    Stupidity plus greed

    Yes. But don't you think you can say the same thing about the commercial banks? 

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    There's an actual Ponzi, where the entity running it is burning cash, and you are bankrolling their lifestyle/spending/own investing.

    And the banking "ponzi", which is more of a pyramid, where the earlier entrants are considerably advantaged, but the system only really pays off if there's a stream of new entrants.

    I really struggle to feel strongly either way. In places where banking is way more expensive, houses are generally cheaper but that's because there's also less investment in things that support higher wages, and the average schlub has a much harder time ever being to obtain the capital to expand themselves commercially.

    On the downside of such abundant credit, there's all the moral hazard and sustainability issues should credit get more expensive.

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    I hear you P. But I suspect that you might possibly share and admire the attitudes and beliefs of the DV chieftains. 

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    DV chieftains

    What is that?

    Most of the people I admire don't own suits. Some don't even own shoes.

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    I suspected you might be a zen kind of guy

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    Doesn't really have to be Zen.

    But I do appreciate a force of nature.

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    If you haven't seen it

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_Call

    As good an apprasial as any

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    You could say the same thing about all of us?

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    There is some level of symbiosis.

    Plenty of livelihoods are dependent on future continuity.

    New arrivals get to inherit millennia of knowledge and development.

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    Like stealing most involves less effort and skill then taking the legal course of actions. It just shows Clarke is mentally more deficient then most people. What he does is not smart or intelligent, it is unethical. It is hard to admire someone who does really stupid things just with low ethics. Easy to trick those who are in a high trust relationships with the scammer & optimism bias who are often family, partners and friends as well, or those affected by accidents or disease including cancer, those with cognitive decline like elderly, low education and unfamiliarity with tech more then others.  Why we don't all do these stupid things to scam millions from others is because we have a shred of ethics and would not sell our family for a quick buck.

    But sure easy to see where you are standing. Hey did you try selling the miracle natural immunity boosting water yet or how about the never fail investment ponzi to your community & the church groups. The faithful, those suffering illness and those in your social circles are even easier targets because of the community connections. It gets even easier if you on purpose target those who have direct relationships with you or are local businesses. Once done all you need to do is a rinse and repeat for locations & community groups. Plus family are stuck with you and often culturally are forced to forgive & give infinite second chances, The Fools.

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    😂

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    Kenyon, if you’re reading this. I know you’re frantically trying to figure out who I am. It’s gotta be an insider. They know way too much. Who the fuck is it? Could it be you Owen? Fuck, it must be Martyn. But how could he betray me? Fuck. Can’t be Martyn, he would never…

    Ben…? Chef Mikey?!

    Charlotte? Could it be Charlotte? She’s dead if it’s her

    lol

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    In the second link an insider has dished the dirt to an incredibly granular level. 

    There is no way any NZ investor is getting a red cent back, they are well down the credit stack on assets that will struggle to sell for 50c in the $. One of those sites has 4 Mortgages on it with Du Val bottom and PIK notes above it.

    Holy toledo batman...

     

     

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    Greed is NOT good

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    But they where so B L U E C H I P

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    Lol

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    Don't forget the "charity" they could claim public grants from and go tax free. After all crime does not pay unless you have some poor people suffering in your place as well.

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    NASDAQ Futures looking grim. Looks for that market to open another 3% down. ASX now down 3.25%.

    And at 6.75% down again, it looks like the Nikkei is looking to retake that earlier level of 7% down.

     

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    Will be interesting to see how long the Kiwibank 5yr TD lasts at 5%. All the other big banks now in the 4s. I'm picking it will go sometime this week.

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    This is your classic market "tanty", we hit an all time high in a number of indices, but because rate cuts are a few months later than investors feel entitled to, or that we need to justify inflated asset values, we see some profit taking.

    We are supposed to look up to these guys/girls? Puhlease.

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    Not surprised. Let’s see how the NZX50 goes. I called a dead cat bounce last week.

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    Nikkei currently down -12.8% and appears to be still falling....

    I see circuit breakers aren't in use - at least not yet anyway. 

     

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    "Berkshire’s cash hoard at record high"

    Of course. Never waste a good crisis.

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    Wrack and ruin everywhere I look.  

    Stocks might look ugly(er?) tomorrow.  Might have to trim even more crypto positions (only have 5-10% left since my sales over the last few months).  At least I have lots of stable coins.

    Gold looking very interesting.  I have a very small position but might actually be a decent safe haven.  

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    Wouldn't now be the perfect time to start DCAing some of those stablecoins back into crypto, instead of selling at a massive dip?

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    I'm tempted.  But this was always meant for my exit out of crypto.  Into sensible investments like Uranium, Nvidia, the Japanese stock market and QQQ.  Ughh

     

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    Nothing on Japan and the carry trade fiasco? Japan just had it's worst market dump since 1987 and it's still an unfolding situation...

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    This who discuss the carry trade are still seen as a bunch of crackpots. It's not in the mainstream conversation, mainly because nobody's been interested. Here's some of today's highlights:

    - Circuit breaker trigger kicked in for Topix soon after market opening. Index down 20% since July peaks. Nikkei fell up to 7%. Nikkei 225 set to post its largest 2-day drop in history - . even larger drop than the Black Monday crash of 87. South Korea halted all sell orders as markets crash.

    Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group fell by up to 20%. If you don't know who and how powerful MUFG is, do some research.

    - JPYUSD powering ahead and now up 12.1% in 30 days. Unheard of. Kiwi peso now down 15%+ relative to JPY in same time period.  

    - Japan needs to sell US debt to plug the holes in their banks and pension funds. This could potentially crash Treasury markets already at their limits thanks to Sleepy Joe and his $2 trillion deficits.

     

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    Worth mentioning with MUFG that down 20% is back to where they were on June 20th. So a big runup to a big drop but stock price still not really down over last 10 years or so. 

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    "Japan needs to sell US debt..."

    That's going to bad for US, and so everyone elses, interest rates!

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    In the past Mrs Watanabe has been taken out behind the shed in these events, now its about to be the professional trading desk that has to pick up the soap in a dodgy bath house.    Not the traditional soapland that many of these traders prefer.

    I have had the opportunity to watch these past crashes up close working on trading floors in London and NZ, from the Dot Com through to the GFC.

    The Fed and the BoJ must have multiple secure zooms/teams  up right now, they have to manage this or its a global lost decade.

    I reckon they are screwed as the entire world just wants to protect its own patch now days....

     

     

     

     

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    US debt accounts for about a quarter of outstanding foreign investment.

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    Yes lack of coverage generally is weird / poor

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    Next to nothing on the BBC (yet). Wait to see what happens by lunchtime in London.

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    Sitting here watching it all unfold on bloomberg.

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    3 days ago

    Stock markets plunge as weak US jobs fuel fears

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7202xvpwn5o

     

    1hr ago 

    Global stock markets sink on US economy fears

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6p224j24x0o 

    "Over the weekend, veteran US investor Warren Buffett's firm Berkshire Hathaway revealed that it had sold about half its stake in US technology giant Apple."

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    Yes but it’s hardly been headline, especially in little NZ

     

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    Yes agree I had to dig for it, & "nothing to see here" in NZ...earlier I told my mate who has US tech share investments, he just txtd me hes expecting to be down around $10k already 

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    BTC is the canary in the coalmine...going to get a lot uglier out there - brace positions ladies and gentleman..

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    The good thing crypto is it has probably had its main dump.

    Its not so bad when crypto dumps alongside everything else (e.g. covid crash)

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    The good thing crypto is it has probably had its main dump.

    We're not finished yet Wolfie. Might just be getting started. Paper hands apocalypse for some. Opportunities for others. Some added pressure as rumors are that market maker Jump Trader in serious trouble. 

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    I wonder if some of the 100s of thousands of arse-carded tech bros in recent times are having to liquidate some of their assets.

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    The good thing about  XYC  has probably had its main dump.

    Oh god you have no idea.....

     

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    Imagine the people who though crypto was a hedge.

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    Natural Hazard Insurance Cover. Hardly surprising that the majority of the insured have little idea of what they are actually covered for. That fact was demonstrated hand over fist throughout the Canterbury EQ sequences. As was the case, and still is the case, inevitably you do not discover what you are actually covered for until you make a claim and that generally unfortunately, will reveal a huge gulf between what you think and what your insurer agrees to.

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    There we go. Nikkei back to 7.25% down....

     

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    @bw. What's happening, or to be more exact, why are sharemarkets all falling in unison today?

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    More sellers then buyers

    its a bit like NZ Property

     

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    Well put. Although for every seller there is a buyer at some stage. But are we into the "catch a falling knife" stage today? If what we see today evolves, no one is going to put in a bid anywhere near last market price, and then we get the fun bit - gaps. And those can be terrifying. "85/95 - Given at 85! ....silence....next price 35/4... Given at 35.....silence...)

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    Some of those buyers are just shorts covering.....

    or people taking profit against 1 day options etc....

    I have a big belief that market structure now means we more likely to may multiple - 4% days rather then one -12%

     

     

     

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    Watching Reuters dealing fill in on a Monday morning and the bid offer spread is 40 pips, no pressure for NZ based traders with global order books.

     

     

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    At some stage, it is 100% certain we will see a reconciliation between amount betted, and future underwrite. 

    Just as at some stage, there will be a reconciliation between a species in overshoot, and the carrying-capacity of the planet. 

    Whether this is the cascade-moment, or not, will only be visible in the rear view mirror. But the longer time marches on, the more likely an inevitable event becomes. 

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    That will happen PDK but with the unlimited F..kery of central banks, I think we have a turn or two yet....

    The public has unlimited gullibility..  look they actually stood bye with Trump and Biden the only candidates ....     

    Play the game, not fix the game, right now there are huge profits to be made on the downside if you can protect your entry

    https://www.macrotrends.net/2554/euro-japanese-yen-exchange-rate-histor…

    if this bounces SELL

    or just enter short with with an call option limiting losses , this sucker is going down

     

     

     

     

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    Great post.

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    the end is signaled by food shortages

    watch https://thoughtmaybe.com/hypernormalisation/

     

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    Might have to make it two new grow tunnels then.

    I can trade BTC for some nice Leeks.

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    Nothing beats a cash crop

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    It's pretty common to see $5 a kilo or more for fresh produce at someone's gate.

    Starts making the maths of growing more produce at scale viable.

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    other crops are more viable

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    That's sorta hobbyist level.

    I grow something else commercially at scale and only get about $3.50 a kilo, but it's by the tonne. Selling a kilo or two at a time is kinda expensive.

    I had been thinking about trialling some Wassabi using a few different techniques.

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    @bw 

    Was it all triggered by the poor US jobs figures, signaling the end of boom times, causing the US markets to crash, which led other markets to crash also?

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    No - we see myopic fixation on miniature 'causes' for a long time now. That's just the 'industry' trying to maintain the illusion that it knows what it is doing. 

    It doesn't. 

    This is the biggest Ponzi the planet has ever seen (and if certain media persona had applied a consistent approach???) and something was going to 'trigger' it. 

    The 1% will attempt to bail it out with public debt (as Obama was forced to do) but there comes a time when belief fades. Also the public are tapped-out. There used to be a middle-class - but they are nowadays referred-to as the Precariat. Our current Government is attempting to increase the ponzi-lever; shafting those at the bottom, and increasingly in what was the middle. The joke always was that when the whole ship sank, the 1% held proxy worth F/A. 

    Whether this is 'it', or whether we've another event or two to go, time will tell. But IT is coming. Learn how to grow food - learn a useful skill. 

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     'Although for every seller there is a buyer at some stage"...you hope, though not necessarily so.

     

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    -13% now.

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    My prediction for tonight:

    Emergency meetings for every trading group at every major US investment bank. 

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    I would be selling NZD here...

    Though we could see CB actions this week, emergency meetings/actions.

    within a month they will have invented a new emergency  program with a 4 letter term

    TARP etc, may be CRAP this time round

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    I would be selling NZD here

    NZDJPY down almost 5%. 

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    my post was at 4:47 ish have a stop loss now

    on the worst day of the GFC i saw it drop 8 big figs, I know as I was wrong way the last 3....

    still made it all back on AUDNZD that night, once markets totally fail no one keeps arbitrage systems up and the crosses go nuts as no one is enforcing anything, imho we are weeks/months away from that... 

     

     

     

     

     

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    Unless they had them last Thursday. And this is the result.....

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    Banks tipping their leveraged prime brokerage customers out of position.

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    Interesting to see that for Kiwi, between when the Vero deal was announced and terminated there appears to be a number of shares sales by the Executive team. Not a great look.

    For those having a nosey look at the Shareholder Notice on 3 July 2024.

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    Nikkei down 8 percent, black swan?

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    Was down 10.25% a few secs ago. Now only 9.25%....

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    Topix down 11%+. Nikkei 225 down 13%. 

    Nikkei 225: Tracks 225 large-cap companies listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. It's a price-weighted index, meaning that stocks with higher prices have a greater influence on the index's overall performance. 

    TOPIX: Represents all common stocks listed on the TSE, around 1,700 companies. 

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    These are not smalls.....

    they are bloody huge falls

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    Over on Japanese crypto exchange Bitbank:

    82x more buy orders than sell orders for the ol' rat poison

    10x more buy orders than sell orders for Ethereum 

     

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    What's the actual value though.

    If whales are selling and minnows are buying, the number of transactions is irrelevant.

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    If whales are selling and minnows are buying, the number of transactions is irrelevant.

    You need to refer to Glassnode data to understand who is selling P. Typically, in times like this we refer to paper hands vs Hodlers. 

    Paper hands sell while Hodlers hold. 

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    You didn't address my question.

    If the value is tanking

    And there's more buyers than sellers

    That implies the sellers are dealing in larger volumes than the buyers.

    It's kinda weird how many partisan pet names are in the vernacular of this realm.

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    And there's more buyers than sellers

    That implies the sellers are dealing in larger volumes than the buyers.

    Let me explain. There is a market price. Below the market price there are buyers and above the market price there are sellers. 

    82x more buy orders exist than sell orders. It makes sense to buy at a lower price than a higher price. 

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    Its the same in NZ pooperty millions of $1 buy orders etc....

    but many of those BTC orders may be bot controlled and will back off at the first hint of being filled.

     

     

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    Bitbank doesn't allow APIs to enable buy orders. Only public information such as quotes (board information) and chart data, retrieve orders and trading history, and for asset withdrawals.

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    Love how the experts are out tonight....lets see whos standing after the dust settles...

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    I know lonewolf does ok.

    But if the ultimate aim of an expert is to know something in depth enough to make it a craft they can capitalise from over and above a layperson, some of the other regular experts might have questionable credentials.

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    There are roughly 2-3 expert commentators on this site ....

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    There's probably half a dozen who've semi-accurately mapped out what's been unfolding.

    Then there's also some that have niche knowledge on specific subjects.

    Anyway, when am I coming to chef on your superyacht? You must have made a killing the last 12 months deploying your expertise buying low and selling high.

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    Then there's also some that have niche knowledge on specific subjects - agree.

    Hate superyachts - too many owners are trust fund babies, the best ones are self made (and don't sail on superyachts)

    Can you make a good leek soup Painter?

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    Not really much of a soup cook. I can do a nice pumpkin and peanut butter soup though.

    How about leeks, bacon, and cheese bake, with garlic panko topping.

    If not the superyacht, where can I work for you? Private jet? Swiss Chalet? Overwater bungalow in Bora Bora?

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    Barcelona, beers are on me (as long as the are crafty)..but I'm guessing you are stick to the orange juice?

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    I'm a bit over beer, but I'll take one if it's hot enough. More spirits and soda.

    We'd probably have more fun in Portugal, everything's legal.

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    Love how the experts are out tonight....lets see whos standing after the dust settles...

    According to Unusual Whales, 274,729 crypto traders liquidated in the last 24 hours - total liquidations at $1.04 billion. Should be a better source than UW. 

    Solution is simple. Don't trade. Know your strategy and risk tolerance. 

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    Let me explain. There is a market price. Below the market price there are buyers and above the market price there are sellers. 

    82x more buy orders exist than sell orders. It makes sense to buy at a lower price than a higher price. 

    It's meaningless data. All it tells us is a few players sold off big, and a whole bunch of small players are buying crumbs in the dip. Cause that's apparently how you make money.

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    Or by growing leeks...

    Fun fact honey badgers love leeks..

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    I think possums are a bigger problem here, but I love any honey badger story!!!!

     

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    Bears

    Beets

    Battlestar Galactica 

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    It's meaningless data. All it tells us is a few players sold off big, and a whole bunch of small players are buying crumbs in the dip. Cause that's apparently how you make money.

    It's useful data, particularly if you track it over time. And also particularly useful in the context of days like today. 

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    I suppose if I had a business and my transaction count was going one way, and my revenue another, I guess I'd want to know that.

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    I suppose if I had a business and my transaction count was going one way, and my revenue another, I guess I'd want to know that.

    If an exchange (a business) sets transaction fees at 0.05%, revenue can be the same at $1,000 or $1 mio, depending on transaction volume. 

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    Uh, yeah sure.

    Is that the scenario we're talking about?

    All the data tells us is that people will be buyers if they think they're getting a discount. Seeing demand gravitate towards a higher frequency at a lesser value is generally a bad thing.

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    No doubt the market direction is south. The point is that if you have so many buy positions, this causes 'friction'. If there are no buyers, the probability that the market price goes into free fall is high. With BTC, this could happen much easier in the past. As IT says, bots can be used to create the impression that there are more buyers that what actually exist. One of the benefits of using Bitbank Japan is that this is regulated more than in the West and on platforms such as Binance. 

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    Thank God for the comments on this website. An island of great info, thinking and intell on matters financial and beyond in a sea of #%^^**

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    it would be great if david and team could do an article explaining the size and scope that the second tier mortgage finance industry is.the loan sizes, number of players, etc

    cause what duval were doing is what everyone was doing ...to a degree?

     

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    I wouldn't tarnish the non-bank mortgage lenders with the likes of these charlatans.

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    oh you mean the honest ones taking capital from "wholesale investors" and family and friends, and friends of family and friends

    and lending it out on investments that lose $15k a year each...or developers mass producing loss making investments

    where are the fundamentals in any of this?

    what a racket

     

     

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    No, I'm referring non-bank mortgage lenders. None of them have retail or insto deposit schemes, they fund via bank warehouses and AAA issues.

    Totally legit.

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    Yeah sounds legit 😎

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    Er not really and the rates they charge are criminal esp to those who are forced to use them to get by. But sure legit... except don't read the fine print of the loan terms... you don't need to right. Might I suggest actually reading the contracts they use. They are less and less legit with each paragraph.

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    Queen Anne’s coverage of de value is quite ironic given her rag has pumped them a bit in the past:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/du-val-interim-receivership-64-comp…

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    We blocked them advertising here years ago. Didn't want readers enticed into what we could see would end badly. (There are others you won't see advertising on interest.co.nz as well.)

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    Good!!!

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    How about some investigative journalism a la Pat Booth? I'd say there is a pretty juicy book/article here and no shortage of disavowed ex-employees to assist.

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    can you give us a list :-)

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    Great to hear that DC.  Business as it should be done.  Thank you.

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    Money well spent supporting this site. For anyone that isn’t financially contributing, here’s a great example of what your money supports. 

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    The fed have called an emergency meeting to cut rates tomorrow (speculation about Fed meeting. No official announcement)

    It was probably just a Leek

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    "We need to plug the dyke"

    Oops, vernacular...

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    Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid ride to the rescue, though this time it will be a black lesbian poet on a donkey and a hormone blocking indigenous transgender kid, on an e scooter..... (thanks to diversity hiring, we do not call them dykes anymore PDK)

    Yeah its believable, I can trust these guys.....

     

    At least its only money, unlike mining and deep sea oil exploration, no one dies in banking.

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    Margin call Monday has arrived on Planet earth. 1.4 quadrillion in credit derivatives is now unwinding. Crashes like this happen quickly as a debt deflation spiral takes hold. Only the silent generation have lived through what comes next, I hope everyone has prepared accordingly. 

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    I have malt, hops and yeast to last 2 years... does that count?

     

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    What’s your address?

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    Mid week session. Sounds good. 

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    tonight its an NZ Pils with Nel s and Riwaka called

    This time is not different Pils

     

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    😂

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    Golden hop combo.

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    I like it but I find the combo a bit sharp, both hop notes are short and punchy, there is no base note....    I like to layer in Amarillo early or something like US cascade... but you have to be so careful or it becomes a pale ale with no malt character.

    I reckon brewing is like playing music with hops.

    I used 100% pils malt, by using about 20-30% Vienna malt you have more malt backbone to play with, but... its not then a pils is it, its now a pale ale.

     

     

     

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    Nelson, riwaka, motueka have always been the trifecta for NZ Pils but as you say, the ratios are key. Could always try a small sprinkle of Munich malt in there with the vienna for a touch more breadiness. Either way, it’s coming up Oktoberfest season so get those Märzens on the way 🤤

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    FTSE is holding at 8000

    No panic. Not yet, anyway

    Wait till see what happens when NY markets open

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    12 noon in London, and FTSE still holding at 8000.

    Looks like Japan has had the big crash, whereas other markets (outside of US) have fallen around 2%.

    Rumours abound of the Fed making an announcement later today.

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    Hartnett: "An Old School Risk-Off" And Why You Should Sell The First Rate Cut

    "People underestimate how much lower rates may need to go to stimulate a weak economy no longer juiced by government spending."

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    This is what Milton Friedman called the interest rate fallacy, and it indeed refuses to die. We can tell what monetary conditions are in the real economy, as opposed to financial liquidity, though the two can be linked, by the general level of interest rates. When money is plentiful, interest rates will be high not low; and when money is restricted, interest rates will be low not high. The reason is as Wicksell described more than a century ago:

    [The natural rate] is never high or low in itself, but only in relation to the profit which people can make with the money in their hands, and this, of course, varies. In good times, when trade is brisk, the rate of profit is high, and, what is of great consequence, is generally expected to remain high; in periods of depression it is low, and expected to remain low.

    When nominal profits are expected to be robust, holders of money must be compensated for lending it out by higher interest rates. Thus, the same holds for inflationary circumstances, where nominal profits follow the rate of consumer prices. During the Great Inflation, interest rates weren’t low at all, they were through the roof well into double digits and higher by 1980. At the opposite end in the Great Depression, interest rates were low and stayed there because, as Wicksell wrote, the rate of profit was low and was expected to be low well into the future. High quality borrowers were given as much money as they could want while the rest of the economy was deprived of funds; liquidity and safety being the only preferences in what sounds entirely familiar. Link

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    Japan's market is a perfect example of depression economics, or how low rates are NOT stimulus. They are and have always been about tight money/deflation. That's why rates/mkts keep rejecting rate hikes & "inflation" CBs claim to fear. https://buff.ly/46fOvL3  Link

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    Kiwi to test the 0.5880 support level again tonight? If that gives, inflation is going to soar. And anyone who has the tools to stop it, knows it....

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    Its ok its all in the capable hands of Mr Orr

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    So many happy commentators when there’s some bad news to discuss!

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    Its not bad news, its the first step in the recovery to debt addiction....

    you of all left leaning people must acknowledge that the first step is....    honesty that debt is not the answer

     

     

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    Jimbo is partial to chardonnay

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    There are one or two missing

    :)

    When the brown stuff goes runny, is it liquidation? 

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    As usual the NZ media have their heads firmly up their bottoms not realising how serious these drops in Japan are.

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    next few days the party will be over at https://www.zerohedge.com/

    they have been waiting since the GFC

    in about 2 months time when markets are down (kiwisaver 20%) queue , its better not to panic, time in the dunny beats timing the dunny etc

    sheep are so easy you shear them once a year

     

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    This will be more contagious than covid

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    A seedy small town murder trial and coverage of kiwis competing in tiddly winks in Paris is far more important 

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    I miss Brokenwood Mysteries.....

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    As usual the NZ media have their heads firmly up their bottoms not realising how serious these drops in Japan are.

    They're producing content at targeted demographics.

    If you pulled up 100 people on the street most of them couldn't give two rats about what the market is doing.

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    Blissful ignorance 

    I envy them

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    None of us really have any control or say over any of this.

    So knowing about it, is arguably detrimental rather than beneficial.

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    DLS at Maccy B reckons interest rate cuts in 25/26 will be much larger than most are expecting:

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/08/big-interest-rate-cuts-are-com…

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    Nikkei futures up 5%. Rat poison up USD3K off its low point - went sub USD50K. 

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    bear market short covering rallies are the most vicious of all, short at the tops.....

    easier said then done

    you need breasts of steel (used to be balls before wokery took over)

    so now we have traded 58-49.4k in BTC in recent hours there is no support anywhere its a cluserf

    .....   so range is like $9kusd in like 24hrs

    its a meltdown BTC is NOT a safe haven asset

     

     

     

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    Perhaps ol’ rat poison will live up to it’s name. 

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    This carry trade reversal  should realistically pull back soon hard...    nothing moves one way forever

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    Look, it's totally fine, 30,000 Somalians just bought about $4 worth each.

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    so now we have traded 58-49.4k in BTC in recent hours there is no support anywhere its a cluserf

    .....   so range is like $9kusd in like 24hrs

    its a meltdown BTC is NOT a safe haven asset

    These are very relevant points. In previous bull runs, up to 35% drawdowns were common. 

    I'm backing up the truck at USD12K. 

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/350368288/japans-nikkei-225-index-plun…

    made front page

    hidden on back pages

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/growth-scare-sets-up-markets-for-fr…

    Global rout: Japan’s stock index suffers worst day since 1987

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    Australia in a ‘messy position’

    The Australian share market has suffered its worst day in more than four years as rising fears of a US recession sparked global panic selling, AAP reported this evening.

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    I'm late to the party and wondering whether to:

    1. Do nothing

    2. Move funds from growth into high growth funds

    3. Move funds from growth to cash

    Any move of the Kiwisaver will have a 4 day lag before it takes effect

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    Did you bring a bottle?

    I vote for #1

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