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Latest ANZ Business Outlook survey shows not only that optimism about the future continues to grow, but also the first signs of improvement in current activity

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Latest ANZ Business Outlook survey shows not only that optimism about the future continues to grow, but also the first signs of improvement in current activity
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The economy’s response to lower interest rates "could be more vigorous than is generally expected", ANZ chief economist Sharon Zollner says.

The ANZ Business Outlook Survey (ANZBO) for September shows another sharp rise in business confidence and in expectations of future activity.

"Markets in particular are focused on downside risks, but this month’s survey showed not only that optimism about the future continues to grow, but also the first signs of improvement in current activity," Zollner said.

"A sharper rebound in economic activity than generally anticipated would of course be great news – as long as inflation still returns sustainably to target."

However, Zollner said the news was "mixed" on the inflation front in the survey.

"The proportion of firms intending to raise their prices in the next three months lifted for a third consecutive month. The average amount by which firms are expecting to raise their prices in the next three months at is also well off its June trough."

But in "good news" from the Reserve Bank's point of view, reported wage growth has dropped over the last six months, and "no doubt relatedly", cost expectations have dropped steadily as well, Zollner said.

“Now we’ll be looking to other data such as card spending, dwelling consents, and job ads to corroborate or challenge the themes from the ANZBO. While the market seems confident rapid rate cuts are coming, everything remains data dependent."

The RBNZ's next review of the Official Cash Rate - currently at 5.25% after a 25 basis point cut in August - takes place on Wednesday, October 9.

Westpac senior economist Satish Ranchhod said the latest ANZ Business Outlook survey results "probably broadly match the RBNZ’s expectations, and likely won’t have changed their thinking ahead of next week’s policy announcement".

"Activity remains soft; inflation pressures have stabilised and are well down on the elevated levels we saw in recent years; and signs of a firming in growth over 2025 are starting to emerge.  Against that backdrop, we’re forecasting a 25bp cut in the OCR at next week’s RBNZ policy review," Ranchhod said.

BNZ head of research Stephen Toplis said the September ANZ Business Outlook survey was "unequivocally strong".

"If you were looking for a reason why the RBNZ should cut rates 50 basis points at its October meeting, this wasn’t it," he said.

Toplis said the RBNZ has indicated that the NZ Institute of Economic Research's Quarterly Survey of Business Opinion (QSBO) out on Tuesday, October 1, is "really important to it".

"We will now await this [QSBO] with strong interest. There is a good chance of some deviation between the two series because the QSBO asks about three month ahead perceptions not twelve month [as the ANZ survey does]. But if it too reveals stronger growth and higher inflationary pressures after just one rate cut there will be little reason for the RBNZ to accelerate the process."

In terms of the detail in the latest ANZ Business Outlook survey, business confidence rose 10 points to +61 in September, while expected own activity lifted 8 points to +45.

Experienced own activity rose 4 points to -19, led higher by retail and construction, but experienced employment fell 5 points to -20.

Inflation expectations were flat at 2.9%., ANZ's Zollner said.

"Business optimism continues to rise. Forward-looking activity indicators were higher again," she said.

"Reported past activity also lifted. It’s still very weak, but there was a turn higher in the hardest-hit sectors of construction and retail and it’s also notable that late-month responses averaged -9, compared with -22 at the start of the month.

"The net proportion of firms expecting higher costs and those intending to raise their prices over the same timeframe were stable. Both remain well above pre-COVID levels."

"Firms’ estimates of changes in their own costs over the next three months generally ticked lower but pricing intentions were mixed.

"Implied margin squeeze is retreating, which is no doubt feeding into improved profitability expectations, along with higher expected turnover.

"Reported wage increases versus a year earlier fell from 3.3% to 3.0%. Expectations for firms’ own wage increases over the next 12 months were flat at 2.7%."

Regarding the construction sector, Zollner said both forward and backward-looking activity indicators have lifted "markedly".

"Time will tell if activity will lift as strongly as anticipated (watch dwelling consents). Meanwhile cost, wage and price indicators for the sector are trending down."

Zollner said it was notable that when firms that are planning on increasing or decreasing their investment are asked what the main drivers of that decision are, interest rates don’t feature strongly. Rather, it’s the indirect impact on the economic outlook that is the deterrent.

"If firms in aggregate don’t actually think interest rates at these levels are much of a deterrence, and if confidence about the economic outlook continues to grow rather than petering out, that certainly raises the possibility that investment could recover more quickly than we or the Reserve Bank are anticipating."

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Please please please cut

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More cuts are coming, the boom is coming by Christmas, got to fuel that housing Ponzi.

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This attitude could bankrupt you 

fill your boots 

investors are not active in the market so you are either a genius or an idiot 

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Always best to first assume you're an idiot. According to Socratic method. Aotearoa seems to rely on modern media over Socrates. 

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How do you explain investor share of new mortgage lending passing FHB then? And anecdotally both auctions we bid at had investors bidding.

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Well obviously those investors are idiots.

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When interest rates start going down the billions currently in term deposits might start going into property.

 

 

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Well they sure as hell will not be going into Bitcoin.

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Aotearoa would own a piece of suburbia over the ol' rat poison any day. Just how it is. 

Current market capitalization of Bitcoin is approximately USD1.30 trillion (that's greater than 2 trillion in Kiwi pesos).

As of August 2024, the total value of New Zealand's housing stock is approximately NZD1.63 trillion (about USD990.12 billion).

What does it mean Z? Why didn't we tokenize some of our housing stock for the rest of the world to enjoy?

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Haha..will save that comment for later this year..Zwifty never fails to please.

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The only question is by how much. Current swaps are projecting quite significant cuts, and Orr will be virtually forced to follow up with actual cuts.

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Good bounce for residential construction, hopes of much lower interest rates I guess.

Yet headwinds in some big areas of Auckland with the proposed massive increase in development contributions.

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Council is against debt limits , so yes

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Business confidence on the rise. Cut of .25 was all that was required last time. This time leave OCR as it is, stay neutral.

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One more cut this year I think.. And then a break for Christmas.. See you next year.. 

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I think neutral is perhaps 1% lower

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Yup...

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  • RBNZ will raise 
  • Higher for longer 
  • They won’t cut yet
  • They will only cut 0.25
  • they can only cut 1% to neutral 

just give it up mate. You have no idea what you are talking about. 

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Another 1% by February 2025 is coming. The RBNZ cannot wait to start cutting now.

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Zwifter, you're coming across as the one that can't wait 😂🤣

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I cannot wait, my partner and a whole load of Kiwis need a break. Doesn't really affect my life but its going to make a big impact on people with huge mortgages.

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Only 9 more sleeps till the next OCR announcement,  and it will be a whopping 50bps reduction!

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Yep its going to be a 50bps for sure, follow the FED. Good news for those with big mortgages.

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An OCR cut means nothing if you have no job.

More rate cuts please.

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Possibly the huge mortgage is the issue, not the interest rate. We have it bass ackwards.

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It is, but that ship has sailed unfortunately. So has the opportunity to get massive capital gains taxes on that generational wealth transfer.

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The cuts a symptomatic of a very sick economy, not the cause. Cuts wont cure the sickness.

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Blackbeard for governor 😂

Current rate seems like a great neutral number to sit at, let’s see when sentiment becomes activity…wee way off yet, 2.0% to get shaved off over the next 12-18 months 🪓🪓🪓

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And then, we have an alternative view, as express in the other article:

"New Zealand’s fiscal settings are not sustainable...and the spending cuts required ... are “unprecedented”... That’s the view of the Treasury’s chief economic advisor, Dominick Stephens, who gave a speech... in Queenstown on Thursday.... "

And it looks like at least one bank is calling in Bad & Doubtful Debt whilst it can:

"Property queen’s luxury apartment drops to $1.55m... it last sold in 2020 for $1.995m."

https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/price-of-property-queens-luxury-apartmen…

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Lower standard of living coming right up

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Someones taking a haircut.

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He also added the other option, as I said the other day off the back of a M Hooton article - increase revenue from taxation

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Another part of the portfolio reduction, hot on the heals of "Christopher Luxon sells Onehunga, Auckland, investment property"

"Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has sold the Wellington apartment..."

A sceptic might ask - does he know something that we don't? Or perhaps he's just wising up to what many of us have suspected is coming for some time.

 

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A sceptic would answer that Luxon knows what most wannabe 'property investors' don't ... That the wild untaxed capital gains from the past 20 year will not be repeated for a very long time.

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A smart man once told me , don't listen to what they say but look at what they do.

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Sounds like an inflation warning without mentioning inflation.

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Yup. The old adage of 'increase prices by 1% and profits will increase by 11%' is being rolled out all over the place.

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ANZ......the bi-polarist of aĺl banks!

 

Charred and blackened economic earth one week.......the next it's green shoots and rainbows!

 

Make your mind up ANZ!

 

Yes Zwiffy is on his knees, praying the to golden Ponzi idols,  in his haĺlowed "monetary me"  prayer room:  "Gimme just one more spin" !!!

 

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We need an 'Aotearoa Housing Index Fund' that tracks the aggregate value of the housing stock. The Ponzi cheerleaders will say that misses the point because the opportunity comes from leverage. 

Simple fix: Enable options for AHIF so that you can leverage 2x, 3x, 5x, 100x. Whatever you like. All executed on a laptop via a trading platform. You can even short it if you like. 

That way, everyone can speculate on the Ponzi without having to engage with banks; lawyers; pesky tenants; etc.  

Perfect world, except for those who rely on the Ponzi commissions and fees. 

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It’s like Zollner & the team just want to keep a foot in both camps so they can’t get embarrassed like they did when they called the hike they never happened eh 😂

For the all the shit you lay on big Tones & Churchy…at least they’re consistent!! 😉

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Ole Terrible Tones and Churchless money tables hastray?

Only thing these ole hasbeens, shameless Spruikers, get right these days.......is what they preached pre2021, to the once thronging property investor roadsides..........

They are soo bad now,  with many failed and misfired, +5 and +10 gain promises, all gone badly awry.......that their property pulpit epistles......  are now more filled with desolate tumbleweeds and cardboard people cut outs, than actual living property punters.

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I never said they were good…just that I admired their consistency! 👏

Tones almost retreated a few months ago but is back on the wagon…Churchy never wavered! 

if they can stay strong for another 12-18 months they’ll be able to start to preaching about 5% annual gains again I reckon 💪😂

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Yep ole Tones the Comb, word has it, he went into protective custody recently. 

Pitch fork wielding mob, from his now infamous 2021 speech, from the property god's pulpit, to his then admiring and thronging flock:  "behold!! "2022 has +5% guaranteed gains".  The same thronging flock,  were now looking for him, as they are all now badly in negative equity and sweating bullets on the slippery 2024 job front.

Hashly the Unchurchless, is still wound up in balls of his own sticky string,  still fighting yesteryears battle and crying aloud about, "why did they remove the remove my god given rights to PAYE offsetting and who did this awful ringfencing ?"......."how dare I, the high Ash, be forced to pay taxes to the ungodly NZ State!!
Someone should indeed remind the said Churchly Ash, as to Jesus's widely reported opinion and words on the money traders' nefarious life choice and chances of eternal salvation.  The Ash C has a real conundrum/problem here, as a supposed Churchly follower......

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Translation: Under falling interest rates NZ businesses are assuming another property boom is just around the corner.

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Another property boom= more young people leaving. National need to read the room on this one....hence the fake postering of chris bishop... how good would it be if it were genuine? 

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Where are these 'young people' going to go?

Sydney, Melbourne and Briso are all more expensive than Auckland. 

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Pretty hard to get an apples for apples comparison. From what I have seen, housing in places you actually want to live in Australia is just way more expensive than New Zealand. You have to live way outside main centres and travel for hours.

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However the income they can bank and save is far greater due to higher wages and salaries, time and a half and double time by law for working certain hours or days, so it is immaterial if they choose to buy a house there at all., The fact is they can build wealth for their future better over there, so they go and do so. 

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Young people and dinks ALWAYS leave NZ no matter what. There’s a huge world out there accessible to many with the right qualification's and skills. When it’s family time 90% all come back to a very attractive family lifestyle and lower salaries don’t make any difference. 

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The problem with these surveys that are based on 'reckons' is that the 'reckoners' all underestimate just how long it will take before consumers feel confidant in spending again. Perhaps the headline should read: Hopium reigns supreme?

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Try overlaying the number of unemployed people on that business confidence chart!

Last big jump in confidence was in 2009 - the last time interest rastes crashed and the number of people unemployed rocketed. Safe to say that it was a few years before anyone would say the economy was 'back on track'.

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Also about the same time house prices started to increase...

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"The proportion of firms intending to raise their prices in the next three months lifted for a third consecutive month. The average amount by which firms are expecting to raise their prices in the next three months at is also well off its June trough."

 

Once again, employees being made to do the heavy lifting to get inflation down by getting made redundant. Businesses however - hey lets keep milking the inflation cow.

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Residential Construction 38.9 19.4 Highest since mid-2021.

Blast off...I told you so.

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I wonder how Riverhead development will go now council are getting real on development contributions in greenfield locations? 100k per dwelling in Westgate, 80k in Drury.

Even some brownfield development getting whacked eg. 120k in Tamaki!

This is possibly the biggest domestic economic news of the past couple of weeks

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Bound to be more Dollars required for the Floodworthy swamps, of the Riverhead lowlands.

Just maybe we can import a new flock of Dutch for Riverhead??  The are well apt at building, loving and shoring up those fine dikes. That is the earthly kind.

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I can tell you exactly what it'll do....make new houses more expensive. 

New houses will NEVER be cheaper. Unless you want to build using cheaper materials. Remember the leaking house crisis?

Every time I visit my new build in Riverhead there's more earthworks and housing starts. Fortunes are being made. 

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No. It will make the land cheaper. No capacity to increase house prices. Market can't pay.

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The cost of developing land is going up all the time...not down. 

The government can talk about it all they like, but nothing is actually happening. It's a talkfest. Imposts make things go up...not down. 

Just like Robbo's landlord tax. Did rents go down?....no, they went up. 

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Reminds me of the mortgage broker haiku:

He spent his entire

Career when mortgage rates were

At historic lows

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My hunch is that at some point in the next year or two the first shoe, in the form of an industrial democracy failing to satisfactorily reassure or in extremis assuage its creditors, will drop. The prime candidate is Japan, less likely but definite possibilities are Europe and separately (because of its separate currency) the UK, and bringing up the rear as a contender is the US.

Once a de jure sovereign debt can no longer practically be repaid without effective currency debasement to an extent that is overtly inflationary then it becomes a de facto gift. Several polities are close to that point now. And once mr market sniffs out anything approaching such a situation, rates head up and contagion can set in.

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Japan?  First candidate for sovereign default? How so?

Its top of the list for nett foreign assetts, over 3 Trillion . Whats your reckons on Japan based on?

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Public debt of high 200%s to GDP and collapsing demographics. Total basket case. Yes they have decent private savings (assets) but the sovereign is all but bust.

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Yes they have decent private savings (assets) but the sovereign is all but bust.

Ya reckon? What happens if all capital repatriated to Japan? Remember that Japan is the world's largest creditor nation, with a significant Net International Investment Position (NIIP). As of March 2024, Japan's NIIP was approximately $3.22 trillion. 

 

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Nothing would happen, unless much of said private capital was confiscated to pay the public debt.

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Nothing would happen

I don't think you might have to be kept back a year. 

What will happen is that the JPY will strengthen massively; the Nikkei stock index would plummet; and there would be financial market chaos globally. 

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Not relevant. Let me spell it out for you; nothing relevant to the sovereign debt situation would happen. You also (rudely) invoke an absurd hypothetical. <facepalm>

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What would happen? Japan would bankrupt itself?  Do you know who Japan owes its debt to?

The global sovereign debt bubble is currently bursting, a phenomenon not seen since the early 20th century. Unlike the US, Japan is not is running unprecedented trade and fiscal deficits, relying heavily on foreign financing. 

And if Japan were concerned, it  could do just like the US could—revalue its gold holdings significantly to retire national debt.

 

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This isn't particularly coherent, and you continue to blur together private assets and public debt. But this 'revaluation' you speak of sounds rather like the sort of exercise that results in creditors not receiving full value - which is precisely a sovereign default!

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This isn't particularly coherent, and you continue to blur together private assets and public debt.

What I'm saying is that much of 'public debt' is held domestically, with the Bank of Japan owning a substantial portion, which mitigates immediate risks associated with high external debt levels. Japan does not have high external debt. 

Japan has not faced a sovereign debt crisis, attributed to factors such as low interest rates and significant domestic ownership of government bonds.

Is it a good situation? No it's not. But comparatively speaking, it might not be as bad as other countries such as China or the US.

 

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So ANZ have plans to lend copious quantities of credit to all comers starting tomorrow?

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