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The latest ANZ Business Outlook survey shows a bounce in most activity indicators; ANZ chief economist says 'it would clearly be a stretch to argue there's been no election impact'

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The latest ANZ Business Outlook survey shows a bounce in most activity indicators; ANZ chief economist says 'it would clearly be a stretch to argue there's been no election impact'
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Business confidence has soared to its highest level since before the 2017 election in which Labour came into power, according to the results of the latest ANZ Business Outlook survey.

“The October ANZ Business Outlook survey saw a bounce in most activity indicators following the All Blacks’ successful progression to the World Cup final – and the election”,  ANZ Chief Economist Sharon Zollner said.

The October survey included results gathered both before and after the October 14 election and obviously during the period in which the All Blacks were making the World Cup final - though it was cut off before the ABs lost the final.

“Activity indicators jumped in the early-month sample and jumped again in the second half of the month. Of course, most activity indicators have been trending higher all year, and there is also always a degree of sample noise. That said, it would clearly be a stretch to argue there’s been no election impact," Zollner said.

“But importantly, it doesn’t follow that the results are spurious. Rather, the question becomes whether firms will follow through on these more robust intentions or not.

“The first test will be whether these stronger numbers persist or peter out. Second, we will have to wait and see what actually happens to investment, employment, activity etc," Zollner said.

In response to queries about the timing of the last time business confidence was this high in the survey, Zollner confirmed that the last time the headline confidence measure was this high was June 2017. The election that year was held in September.

She said it was important to note that no one uses headline business confidence to forecast the economy "because it does get pushed around by things like politics".

"I’m not saying it isn’t a genuinely held belief by firms that the outlook for 'general business conditions' has improved. It’s just that that belief doesn’t then reliably translate into actual business activity.

"That’s why we focus on the more micro questions about respondents’ own firms, which have a much better correlation with actual economic outcomes. And most of them have been trending up all year," Zollner said.

In terms of the survey results, headline business confidence jumped 21 points to +23 in October. Expected own activity rose 12 points to +23.

Zollner said it is fair to say that the historical data and experience suggests that people may overestimate the near-term impact of a change in Government on the business cycle, in either direction.

“Turning to inflation, the proportion of firms expecting higher costs and intending to raise their prices soon were little changed. Meanwhile, economy-wide inflation expectations were pretty flat at around 5%.

“Firms’ average estimate of where their own selling prices and expected costs will be in three months’ time is currently going sideways. The RBNZ will want to see the downward trend reassert itself, given the numbers clearly remain too high to be consistent with inflation returning to the 2% target any time soon.

“Encouragingly for the Reserve Bank, reported past wage increases (versus a year earlier) had a decent fall and the lowest read since we started asking this question in March 2022. On the other hand, expectations for wage settlements over the next 12 months were steady."

In terms of the key things to take out of the latest survey, Zollner said: “Just as we thought that the rebound in activity indicators in the ANZ Business Outlook survey might be running out of steam, we’ve seen a marked jump across most.

“Before we judge the importance for the economic outlook, particularly given the noise of the election, we’ll see whether the newfound optimism persists over the next few months. Especially since the All Blacks lost the final.

“Meanwhile, inflation pressures are gradually waning in the big picture, but there hasn’t been a great deal of progress in the last couple of months.

“It’s still a very long way back to the inflation target, and we continue to expect it’ll take at least one more OCR hike to get us there."

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I take it these business leaders don’t follow yield curves (nor study history of economies, recessions and yield curves) 

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Optimism about the future government has undoubtedly rebounded from pessimism about  the old government. Early days yet,  but that in itself illustrates just how inhibited and negative the business sector had become.

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Haha it's not about realities. It's going to be a Nact government what could go wrong. So predictable.

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Things can always go wrong, but clearly not as bad as under a Labour government. 

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Time and again this proves to be 100% incorrect.

Labour led governments spend money, which flows through to all areas of the economy, boosting business & GDP growth. National led governments cut government spending and instead give tax cuts which does not flow through to the economy.in the same fashion, with a lot of ending up in bank account or overseas equities and holidays.

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Ok, Labour have had their 6 years to completely root the country, causing record numbers of people to leave. Let's see where things are at in another 6 years. I'm pretty sure inflation will be under control, businesses will be more confident, and the agricultural industry booming. But, what do I know? Sounds like I'm 100% incorrect,  so I will just have to take that one on the chin.

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Obvious to all the the OCR should have been hiked at the last meeting. I'd be surprised if the well published inflation at 5% and business confidence doesn't result in continued wage inflation at 5%+ pa.

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I bet it has...especially RE related industry.

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Change of government does nothing to 8% mortgage rates, the main impediment to house sales. Anyone who thinks real estate industry is heading for good times is not going to be proven right any time soon.

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Change of government leads to inflation down to 1% which leads to RBNZ reducing OCR which leads to interest rates coming down to 6%. 

Even if this scenario doesn't play out, just look at Corelogic's figures now out for October. Prices already going up in most areas of the country.

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how quickly will they be disappointed by a new government just carrying on with the same old same old.

apart from renaming a few things they look to be on the same path as the last lot so very little will change unless the minors get some real influence 

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Just a few points of difference between Labour and National, I think. Such as National being pro-business, pro-farming and pro-manufacturing. And not wasting money on beurocracies. And being against "Three Waters". The list could go on.

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National are pro property and that's about it.

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Not quite Jesse, they are pro property rights. Which is entirely different.

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Ohhh, so they are going to let people build whatever they would like on their own property?

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Hah, good one. Openly running on policy to benefit property speculators and we claim it's "rights".

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Someone's been drinking the Nact coolaid.

They are all those things in proporganda only

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I'm a fan of Winston Peters. How about you, Redcows?

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As spoken by a true Labour comrade.

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who said this then 

i don't care what it's called but i want the assets off the councils and into a new organisation with the quality and price regulation in our model

yes, it is chris bishop and it is 3 waters by another name. 

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Privatise the water...but no 3 waters, sounds like a plan 

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I think the protestations were around co-governance. 

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are you sure, 

Labour's Three Waters plans will remove local water assets and control from your community.

National is committed to repealing and replacing Three Waters. National will keep local assets in local control, and we will protect community decision-making.

National wholly supports smart solutions to tackle our long-term infrastructure challenges, but Labour’s plan is anything but a smart solution – it is a total takeover of community assets, and it must be abandoned.

our plan will restore New Zealanders’ confidence that water infrastructure is being funded on a continuous basis, with investment being made when and where it’s needed. We’ll ensure communities get what they pay for

just remember this when your water bills go up and up

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Thanks Sharetrader for your comment. I'm just not clear who "we" are in your comment?

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I wonder how long it'll be before Luxon announces he's going to tap younger productive working Kiwis' wages to subsidise infrastructure to landowners' land so as to avoid raising rates on a more user-pays basis...

It'll be one more subsidy for property.

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I own a couple of businesses and while I know there are monetary cycle issues to work through, as well as other challenges, I feel much more optimistic now the idiots who were clearly unfit to govern have been shown the door, and I can face these challenges without feeling like my own government hates me.

I'm sure National has their share of idiots of course. 

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Great comment. And congratulations on owning a couple of businesses - good on you. 

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Ah, so another release of the "Is the government of the colour we like" poll

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Exactly that's all it is - it's meaningless. 

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Lots of ABs fans were very confident ahead of the world cup final 😂

misplaced confidence 

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Does the NZ50 correlate with business confidence? It's down 4.65% from the Friday before the election to yesterdays close (Oct 13th - Oct 30th). That's a decrease in aggregate market capitalisation of about NZD 7.185 billion.

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Currently YTD the NZX 50 is -7.02% .....better off in TD's I think. 

Or Crypto :) 

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Whoever forms the next government,  it's going to be a tough 12 months to get this country out of the s#@t that Robertson and Hipkins have got us into. Construction, manufacturing and consumer spending all crashing over recent months. No wonder the NZ50 is down.

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It will be interesting to see just how many years that the problems of this country will be blamed on Labour. At some point National have to move their blaming to international forces or some disaster.

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We've had two decades of govts unanimously pushing speculation on land rather than productive business investment. Nats and Labour have both contributed massively to that...even if Labour might belatedly have tried to reduce that somewhat.

But incoming Nats don't look anything like a govt of business - merely a government of the property speculator, by the property speculator, and for the property speculator.

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Regarding their comment about the rugby, seems like ANZ is grasping at any straw they can find as an excuse to keep interest rates high. Their profit margin is growing. 

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Wouldn't be the supermarkets being overly confident after Willis today suggested much effort is needed to bring in a major third competitor to break up the duopoly.  

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Didn't she just say she was "going to seek advice". No doubts she will talk to two organisations, guess which ones.

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Well yes, but it's only Labour that sets up committees and working groups to discuss things without outcomes.  National don't do working groups, they just seek independent advice and then follow through without haste.  

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Lol (I am assuming sarc)

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NZDan, you are quite wrong. Labour set up committees and working groups to discuss the setting up of a committee or working group to discuss the possibility of maybe discussing an announcement they might make about a working group or committee that they could potentially form.

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Funnily enough the last two incoming Nat and Labour govts had almost exactly the same amount of working groups. The whole schtick played well to National votaries though.

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typical wellington based politician we already have a 3rd player in auckland called costco, she needs to come up and meet them and ask what help they need to roll in Christchurch then wellington and dunedin, 

also she could talk to the warehouse whom would like to get into that space but are fighting against suppliers who are getting the hard word from the major two to not supply them.

just strikes me as typical talk to the news then do nothing syndrome.

Wellington and Christchurch are next in line for a Costco, followed by another in Auckland, but where else? | Stuff.co.nz

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The National Party is voted into power and business confidence soars. Gee, what a surprise. 

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Yep mike, that’s the difference between a party that believes business is evil, and Government is all powerful, and the opposite. So you are correct, what a surprise.

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Right wing voters are absolutely full of how business is all powerful and government is evil - right up until they start begging for a government bailout following the next weather event.

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Except they don’t beg anyone Macawsley. Most have a back up plan for weather events, it’s called insurance. You might have heard of it?

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Yep, and it's a shame the farmers, businesses and residents of Hawke's bay are the latest to learn they cannot rely on it - requiring the evil government (taxpayers) to stump up again.

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They should use that then, instead of calling for the taxpayer. Floods, droughts, disease outbreaks etc... taxpayer always seems to be getting hit-up.

We seem to have missed commercial property owners in HB calling for "own two feet", and the same with flood-affected Auckland property owners, and the same with farms affected by M.Bovis..., and business in Auckland looking to install more security equipment. 

Why wasn't the order of the day insurance and own two feet? Getting a bit tired of these pseudo right-leaning folk calling for rugged individualism for others while expecting taxpayer welfare for themselves.

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