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Farmers need certainty over emissions pricing – removing the Government from the equation might help

Rural News / opinion
Farmers need certainty over emissions pricing – removing the Government from the equation might help
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Farmers milk cows, but do banks milk customers? Getty Images.

By Zack Dorner*

The most important part of the government’s proposed agricultural emissions pricing scheme is the price. This may seem obvious – but the government has failed to provide a clear indication of what the price will be and how it will be set.

Unfortunately, this uncertainty is already undermining what is otherwise a very good policy proposal. The first casualty of the lack of price certainty seems to have been well-informed public debate.

On the one hand, farming advocates have said the pricing scheme will put 20% of sheep and beef farmers out of business. On the other, environmentalists have said it will do nothing to address the urgent climate crisis.

Public consultation on the scheme is open until November 18. My hope would be that one outcome is the Climate Change Commission being given responsibility for setting the price – as soon as possible – to provide more certainty.

In reality, because we don’t know the price, we can’t say how much the scheme might reduce agricultural emissions and what impacts it could have on the sector. But if we assume a price that will give us credible emission reductions, industry-led modelling predicts an average cost of 0 to 7.2% of farm profits.

Carrot and stick

Under the proposed plan, farmers will be charged for every kilogram of greenhouse gasses (GHGs) they emit. They will also be given incentives to implement specific GHG-reducing practices on their farms. Both the “stick” and the “carrot” make up the price.

This is a good policy because the stick funds the carrot. Combined, they increase the price while reducing the impact on farmers. The scheme is farm-level, which is more costly to administer than the earlier proposals to place emissions charges on processors like Fonterra. But it should be more effective at reducing emissions.

While our milk and meat produce relatively low GHGs per kilogram of product by international standards, a strong pricing scheme such as this will help us maintain that position.

Ministers will set the price, annually or every three years, taking into account advice from the Climate Change Commission.

Red truck carrying protest signs against proposed methane tax
The recent Groundswell protests claim emissions pricing will put some farmers out of business. Getty Images.

Uncertainties around pricing

Methane is the main greenhouse gas (GHG) emitted by farming cows and sheep. The government has set a target for methane emissions of 10% below 2017 levels by 2030. But it’s hard to know what the price needs to be to achieve the target.

There are a few things that complicate the calculation.

Firstly, there’s the human factor. It’s hard to model exactly how strongly farmers will respond to the price, particularly when we are talking about relatively small costs in relation to all the decisions made on farms.

Secondly, we don’t know what technologies will become available to farmers over the next five to ten years. A range of technologies show promise but are still in development. If one or two of them become available and affordable in that time frame, the 10% target may be easy to achieve at little cost.

By putting the decision in the hands of government, we now have political uncertainty to add to this list.

A need for compromise

There are many competing factors to weigh up when setting the price. First is achieving the GHG reduction targets – a difficult task in itself. There may need to be some flexibility, as long as we are on the right track.

A second factor is maintaining a competitive agricultural export sector. Reducing emissions will come at a cost, but we will want to avoid putting too high a burden on farmers too quickly.

A third factor is providing some certainty over the price. This is important for farmers when they’re deciding whether to invest time and money in new practices and technologies.

Governments may be tempted play with any of these factors – for example, promising to drop prices at election time. And if the price is set too low, the scheme will be an expensive failure. Too high and the costs may be borne too quickly.

Who should set the price?

A better option would be to let the Climate Change Commission set the price. It’s well placed to do this with expert and community input, and was set up as an independent body specifically for jobs like this.

Yes, the government has said the commission will recommend a price and ministers will respond. But why add the additional political uncertainty?

The government should provide clear criteria for determining the price, which would increase rather than reduce certainty. And the commission should set prices early and for a specific period of time. For example, next year it could set the prices for when the scheme starts in 2025, with the plan to review it in 2028.

Of course, governments don’t like to hand decision-making power over to others. But in this case it would make sense. The first casualty of price uncertainty may have been some public doubt over the merits of the policy. Let’s make sure the next casualty isn’t the policy itself.The Conversation


*Zack Dorner, Senior Lecturer in Environmental Economics, University of WaikatoThis article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

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23 Comments

There are merits to the policy? Farmers and foresters are losing  productive land for a policy that achieves nothing other than raising costs and promoting carbon leakage.

"Academics can quibble (it’s what we do best) about the exact factors, but the fact that this formula is vastly more accurate than the traditional accounting rule is indisputable.

...Even more strikingly, if an individual herd’s methane emissions are falling by one third of one percent per year (that’s 7/2100, so the two terms cancel out) – which the farmers I met seemed confident could be achieved with a combination of good husbandry, feed additives and perhaps vaccines in the longer term – then that herd is no longer adding to global warming."

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/ideasroom/a-climate-neutral-nz-yes-its-possi…

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-021-00226-2#MOESM1

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Farmers I am talking to are going to slaughter their cattle and convert to forestry.

Result will be less New Zealand meat in store, higher prices, lesser meat quality because New Zealand grass grown animals are the world's best.

Happy now Ms Ardern and Mr Robertson? The rest of New Zealand are not happy.

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Melodramatic nonsense .

Most farmers are just getting on with it.

 

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Two issues from NZ made it to Dou Yin the Chinese version of Tiktok :

1. Fart tax

2: NZ to change its name to Ateorua

 

100% of comments are mocking how stupid those ideas are.

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So what's we need is a plan from a genius like yourself?

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I would think the reason that it is the politicans that set the price is that they are accountable , whereas the climate comission can come and go . Also may require legislation. 

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I DO NOT believe farmers should be paying anything for methane emissions.

That's that I guess.

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Lets just hope come October next year many many people see the light and do that right thing, and put Jacinda and Grant out to pasture to stop their ideology polices killing NZ, they have lost the meaning of balance in just about everything they try and roll (push) onto NZ. 

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I was going to vote Labour for the first time ever but I wont be now.

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Please don't forget she donated to a homeless man on the street .

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If you put Jacinda and Grant out to pasture aren't you adding to emissions ?

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I wonder how many politicians could identify a rotary shed (pictured)

 

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Just got the latest B and L finance figures for Hill country - there own figures. Allowing for drawings of a good farm work to the owner.

50% of farms are losing money

25% are losing a lot of money

Its not working as is - emissions or no emissions the market is going to work sorting this out.

Storage at meat plants very full apparently 

Low demand from China 

My friend with a pet food factory is getting some prime beef animals sent to him - cant be killed and no feed.

 

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Government mandated carbon bludging is now so profitable mature pruned stands are being locked up and lain at the altar of climate change leadership. A leadership scheme so loony even pruned stands can't compete with carbon.

Farmers gifting $15 a tank to carbon bludgers, not able to claim soil carbon, not able to claim shelterbelts, forced to use outdated GWP 100 CO2 metrics, with the only farmland available at non climate leadership  market rates is the stuff covered in stumps - ineligible for the ETS. Any you wonder why they are unprofitable? It is by design.

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Yes I briefly heard someone talking about whether they would harvest their trees or sell them for carbon credits. These people decided to harvest ie log them and good for  them for doing so.

I wonder if not many people realise that this is going on behind the scenes. 

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Carbon has nothing to do with this problem. Just get the industry supplied financial numbers and look. The decline has been happening for decades and is related to the fact even in good years it’s not profitable for many. Until we accept that the market has changed, take wool, and it’s no longer profitable we won’t move forward. Well we will as the market for labour etc will take people to other jobs that pay more and capital will move to other investments. 
 

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@profile, that's what Roger Dickie are up to (a forestry investment company with 93 forests), trying to persuade shareholders to vote to change their forests to carbon only.

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Wait till you here about the windfalls being handed out because Shaw lost control of the price cap. Eye watering sums handed over for nothing - if you were lucky enough to to have stayed in the ETS and have a consultant who is up with the play (not many are). Sums so large forest owners can't believe the windfall - because they haven't read about it in the Dominion or had poor advice from johnny come lately carbon carpet baggers.

There are some big blocks of mature pruned staying in carbon . Blocks of land with massive carbon liabilities that the next generation can't use for anything but fence repair training and deer shooting.

At least with Muldoon's SMP's the land could be used for something else once that subsidy fad was over. In this case the carbon liabilities on the land lock out the next generation.

 

 

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@Jack Lumber, that doesn't really pass the sniff test.

Prime prices are the highest they've ever been at $6.80/kg, sure space is a bit tight but grass is good (and will boom away after this weekends rain), so why would anyone send an animal to pet food for .30c/kg rather than waiting a week or two?

My place only breaks even after paying a salary and to lease the land from a trust. People have always farmed because they like doing it not as a get rich scheme, which is lucky for food production.
 

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I’m just telling you what they told me - they were surprised as well. I have no problem if people want to not make profit. The figures I quoted are after a salary and over 20% are still losing up to $400 per ha and another 20% around $60 per ha. Just look at the Beef and Lamb figures - it’s from reasonable numbers of actual farms - not my numbers it’s from the industry itself. Happy to be shown numbers saying they are wrong.

The problem with no profit is when you want to pass a farm on succession becomes very hard in many cases. Do the children want this and if more than 2 kids how do you split it up. Sure families can just agree but more than ever everyone wants there share of the capital and Mum And Dad want a comfortable wind down. I see this every week and it’s endemic in low profit farming parts and there is no easy solution. No one will openly talk about this, it’s shuffle of feet, mumble and then talk about the weather or blame someone or something.

A few trees are the least of the problems facing an awful lot of farming families. I shudder to think what will happen when interest rates keep rising far higher than many expect in the next few years.

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Just make all pollution costs user-pays for everyone, urban and rural. Enough socialising.

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Correct me if I'm wrong on two things ...

... firstly , if a farmer plants  1000 trees in a straight line its deemed to be a shelter belt , and therefore he gets no carbon credits for them ... whereas , if he plants them in a square block he does get carbon credits ?

And secondly ... grass or pasture land sequesters 1.8 tonnes of CO2 per hectare / annum , but is not included in carbon credits : Why not ?

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The carbon taken up by the grass is part of a cycle, it gets eaten and used by the animal and is returned to the atmosphere. Mostly in NZ the carbon stored in the soil is pretty stable.

The only way you could justify paying extra is if you could prove that the carbon being stored in the soil is increasing, but my understanding is that is very variable and it would take a huge amount of measuring. They do pay farmers overseas to grow no-till crops because that means less carbon is lost in the ploughing process. I've seen some research on ways to increase the carbon content of grassland by using biochar or other additives, that would be a game changer if a process could be invented.

And yes the tree eligibility business is a rort.

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