Here are the key things you need to know before you leave work today (or if you already work from home, before you shutdown your laptop).
MORTGAGE/LOAN RATE CHANGES
Today ASB, BNZ and Kiwibank all cut rates for most of their fixed rate mortgage terms. Details are here. All rates are here.
TERM DEPOSIT/SAVINGS RATE CHANGES
ASB and Kiwibank both cut some of their term deposit offers. (BNZ didn't however. Update: They did.) All updated rates less than 1 year are here, for 1-5 years, they are here.
MORE REALISTIC PRICES DRAW BIDDERS
Residential house auction results suggest a drop in prices is lifting sales volumes. Fewer properties being auctioned, but more selling under the hammer.
NINE YEARS BAN
Wei (Walker) Zhong and Lei (Regina) Ding have been banned from being a director, promoter or manager of an entity, for nine years, the High Court has ruled in a case taken by the FMA. Zhong was the Executive Chairman and CEO of Oceania Natural Limited; Ding was a senior manager and marketing director of the company.
EYES ON HLFS
All eyes are on tomorrow's labour force data and the Q2-2024 jobless rate. That rate is expected to come in at 4.7%, a rise from 4.3% in Q1. That would be an increase of +10,000 more jobless in the quarter. But it could be more than that. The rise in those on JobSeeker benefits was +8450 in the period and not everyone who is jobless claims for those benefits. But a notable rise above a 4.7% rate would probably be influential in the next week's RBNZ considerations (even if there is no longer a jobs mandate).
RBA LEAVES CASH RATE UNCHANGED, STAYS HAWKISH
The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) has left its cash rate unchanged at 4.35% as expected. The RBA says it "remains resolute in its determination to return inflation to target and will do what is necessary to achieve that outcome." The RBA's latest forecasts are for inflation to return to its 2% to 3% target range late in 2025 and approach the midpoint in 2026. Aussie consumer price index inflation rose 3.9% over the year to the June quarter.
SWAP RATES STOP FALLING
Wholesale swap rates are possibly higher today on global forces although the rise might miss the shorter terms. Our chart below will record the final positions. The 90 day bank bill rate is down -1 bp at 5.32% and a new 500 day low. The Australian 10 year bond yield is down -5 bps from this time yesterday to 4.00%. The China 10 year bond rate is up +2 bps at 2.14% and off its all-time record low. The NZ Government 10 year bond rate is up +8 bps at 4.29% and the earlier RBNZ fix was at 4.18% and up +1 bp from yesterday. The UST 10yr yield is up +6 bps from this time yesterday at 3.83%. Their 2yr is now at 3.96%, so that curve is now inverted by -13 bps.
EQUITIES MIXED, BUT FALL DOESN'T EXTEND
The NZX50 is down -0.6% in late trade on the global risk pullback. But the ASX200 is up +0.3% in afternoon trade. Tokyo has opened its Tuesday trade recovering +9.4% after yesterday's crushing -12.4% retreat. Hong Kong is up +0.3% at its open. Shanghai is also up +0.3%. Singapore is down -1.1% however. Wall Street fell in its Monday session with the S&P500 down -3.0%
OIL HOLDS
The oil price is little-changed from this time yesterday at US$73.50/bbl in the US, and at just over US$77/bbl for the international Brent price.
CARBON PRICE HOLDS LOW
Today the carbon price is still at $53/NZU today unchanged from yesterday. See our new daily chart tracker of the NZU price for carbon, courtesy of emsTradepoint.
GOLD LOWER
In early Asian trade, gold is down -US$34 from this time yesterday at US$2408/oz.
NZD HOLDS
The Kiwi dollar is little-changed from this time yesterday, still at 59.5 USc. Against the Aussie we are down -30 bps at 91.3 AUc. Against the euro we are little-changed at 54.4 euro cents. This all means the TWI-5 is at 68.2.
BITCOIN RECOVERS SOME
The bitcoin price is back up +3.5% today from this time yesterday, now at US$55,780. It got as low as US$49,315 at one stage. (BTC is no store of value.) Volatility of the past 24 hours has been extreme at just on +/- 7.0%.
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Desperation from a section of NZ to stop house prices falling....
Stunning on here how desperate they are and therefore how angry they will be when the house price falls do not stop by Xmas, just demonstrates how little they know about both historical events and market dynamics. A share market crash is not going to halt the property crash, even if it brings rate cuts....
The global slowdown associated with the carry trade unwind and US Hard Landing is going to hit NZ jobs and business, just like in 1987 and the GFC 2008. This is probably the worst case scenario for NZ Markets, economy, house prices and people.
Lower rates are going to help form a floor in house prices, not reignite them from current levels. At what level that floor occurs has somewhat been taken out of our hands, with much depending on global events now.
I did not know that I could subdivide when I purchased, neither did the seller.
So I paid no premium for this place. I will do it but in no hurry, I will be here for another decade. I know what I need to do to apply etc, but I figure all the land works will just get cheaper over the next few years. And I would like to pick up my own skid steer anyways.
I like being self sufficient, learnt it sailing offshore with a 3 month old baby onboard. No coastguard offshore etc.
Who doesn't like heavy earth moving toys?
Anyone who is happy about receiving a rate cut because of an emergency fed cut / crash etc, is very very desperate. Because while serviceability may improve, the face value of the risk asset is going to get munted in this form of credit destruction. Who wants to buy a house in a hard landing, we all know they will be cheaper next month.
They where either not around in places like the UK after 1987 (negative equity central) or NZ when every second rural shopfront was boarded up, and the BNZ (now squealing for cuts) was bailed out twice. Things where so shonkey back then, Ron B wanted to buy BNZ with a loan ... from the BNZ.
All those big tech names are now going to follow Intel, job cuts up are now baked in
If we do manage to smash the ponzi (and compete with over seas for job prospects). The medium term benefit is there will be more affordable housing.. and a better chance to attract and retain skilled workers we need so desperately.
I am thinking we could offer to exchange real estate agents for nurses, Dr's, teachers, engineers.... lol
If the US does go into recession (Sahm rule?) & the Middle East doesn’t kick off into a full blown war wouldn’t we see oil prices drop on the back of lower demand, maybe substantially, then it is very possible that NZ could have headline deflation yeah? As pointed out (with some great enthusiasm by some 😂) property/construction is pretty cooked, at least for the next 12-24+ months…& if this government stay determined to stick their lower spending…what can get us out of the tailspin? Lots of chat about killing the ponzi/investing in productivity but what does that actually look like? Keen to hear ideas
The people with capital take it to places like Vietnam or Mexico etc and start manufacturing there? we cannot compete for that space , our wages are too high.
We have a lot of water and generally power. we could be a candidate for clean room chip fabrication, but its mega bucks, be cool we are a great place to live, we would be able to attract the engineers etc.
We do not allow R&D tax credits etc enough, if we did and dropped corp tax to 15% we could steal other locations research biz.
NZ has native English speakers, a decent broadband network, low(ish) min wage (in USD), cool temperatures.
The sky is the limit, we could be a global call centre (both sales and helpdesk), a secure offshore data storage centre, large Telehealth overflow for the world.
The nz govt and our ambassadors need to be investing, subsidising and selling this to large overseas organisations and central govts.
The bitcoin price is back up +3.5% today from this time yesterday, now at US$55,780. It got as low as US$49,315 at one stage. (BTC is no store of value.)
Hmmm. Let's have a look at this and the 'BTC is no store of value' claim. The last time global capital markets panicked was March 12 2020, when COVID reality set in. Bitcoin's price fell 37% that day - from $7,911 to $4,971. I remember it well.
A year later, it was $57,332. People like smashing the sell button for liquid assets during broad-based panics. That doesn't indicate that BTC is 'not a store of value.' Gold and silver sold off y'day. That doesn't mean that both commodities are not SOVs. It's a matter of perception.
I'm with David Chaston (and a lesser known Warren Buffet) on Bitcoin not being a store of value. It has no intrinsic value that would make it a "store of value, it's traded just like any stock. It's nonsense to say it's a store of value because it has not (yet) lost too much of its value. Food, shelter, energy are stores of value because we can't live without them. Bitcoin has no use.
You are confusing store of value for perceived lack of utility.
"Food, shelter, energy are stores of value because we can't live without them" - these may be vital but they are not stores of value. I have a half eaten banana on my desk that has already lost most of its value. I can invest in Exxon Mobil but oil itself goes up and down all the time.
Bitcoin let's a person in a war torn country escape with the entirety of their wealth in digital form. All they need is 12 magic words somewhere and they can walk through Customs without any fear of their assets being taken. You can send billions of dollars across the world in a second, with a 10c transaction fee.
"It's nonsense to say it's a store of value because it has not (yet) lost too much of its value." - If in 10 years time bitcoin has indeed continued upwards and is say, $300k per token, I'd say that is a huge store of value even if it has dips on the way.
"Food, shelter, energy are stores of value because we can't live without them"
Not sure I entirely agree. The Global South sees food security as important as food has value to a nation's wellbeing. Saudi Arabia's oil reserves are indeed a store of value, regardless if the oil price fluctuates.
I am no fan of bitcoin.
But all stores of value be they gold, cash, bank account balances, diamonds.. have no intrinsic value other than what people agree they are worth.
Bitcoin ( as I understand it) is available in limited quantities and can be securely traded and stored... just like other monetary forms.
So as long as people agree it's value.. it's valid
My concern is why it would increase in value as much as it has. But like any concept it is free to do so.
Because it takes increasing amounts of energy to mine, but you get the BTC from mining.... past bitcoins cost real energy as will future ones, like gold if the price falls mines close, but as it increases better tech helps mine more effectively. Gold price rises and more mining happens.
Its such a beautiful concept I still wonder who really invented it.
You don't believe a Bacon, Hotere, McCahon, Velazquez or Warhol are stores of value? Their prices fluctuate with deamand and supply and the cost of finance.
Yes. And art work ownership can be fractionalized. Which is a useful and smart innovation that has emerged from the Blockchain revolution (even though tokenization arguably doesn't need blockchain).
This is true anything liquid is used for margin calls,
Well yes. Most of the leveraged positions taken out yday on ratty were leveraged longs. Gold and silver have constant short positions from the likes of JPM. Yes, I know, people say that's a conspiracy theory. But it's not. The short positions against gold and silver are mechanisms to control the price on behalf of the ruling elite. You can chalk this sentence up on the conspiracy whiteboard.
The real suckers are those who have been gorging on cheap Japanese debt to invest elsewhere. Not arguing that JPY is not a SOV as all fiat currencies are to some extent.
"(BTC is no store of value.)"
Look I may have dumped almost all my BTC at 70k, but its still a store of value if you look at longer term moving averages.
It is a volatile asset so jumps up and down, but dollar cost averaging into it is still probably the best asset class there is.
If there is a magical asset that always goes up and never goes down I'm keen (actually JLP token is not far off)
No need for even that even that level of separation. Recently been in contact with my cousin in the UK, turns out he has similar interests and has even had similar cars and pretty much the same lifestyle as I have. I have not even been in touch with him for 30 years, its all genetics on my fathers side.
If there is a magical asset that always goes up and never goes down I'm keen (actually JLP token is not far off)
Ask any real estate agent (2011 to 2023) and they will swear blind its Nz residential property.
It doubles in price every 10 years Don't you know. Sometimes more.
Magic!
The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) has left its cash rate unchanged at 4.35% as expected. The RBA says it "remains resolute in its determination to return inflation to target and will do what is necessary to achieve that outcome."
Well they would, wouldn't they?
Shame they neither had the authority or means to stop the move to current elevated levels.
Interesting trend that you can hang a narrative on. Boats for sale on (https://www.boatsales.com.au/)
5/22-11,320
12/22-12,652
5/23-14,740
12/23/-15,089
1/24-14,797
3/24-15,858
4/29-16,427
Today- 16,708
Be interesting to see data for NZ from trademe, suspect it would show the same trend. I keep a bit of an eye on a few models that I would potentially be interested in upgrading to from my current boat. Seems like most people are still holding out for a reasonably high price for their boats.
Company liquidations in July had another juicy jump up. Just imagine if the world falls into a deep recession and it turns out that RBNZ gave us a headstart! Deeper for longer.
Sure, our economy relies on a steady flow of money coming in and people spending it. That's how businesses make money.
- Money flows in from new bank loans and govt spending.
- Some money gets stuck for a while in peoples' savings.
- Money drains out permanently when govt collects taxes, or loan repayments are made.
So, put simply, when new loans fall behind loan repayments, the economy slows down, and businesses make losses and close.
Higher rates also increase business costs at the same time as reducing demand. So double whammy. That's why higher rates kill businesses - particularly those that sell discretionary things.
Roy Morgan’s New Zealand Poll for July 2024 shows support for the National-led Government (National, ACT & NZ First) has increased marginally in July, up 0.5% points to 50%, increasing its lead over the Labour-Greens-Maori Party Parliamentary Opposition on 44% (down 1.5% points).
Child bearing age women are still the Coalitions weak link & will decide the next election – why is that & what are they doing about it
https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9643-nz-national-voting-intention-ju…
Polymarket poll has Kamala 10 ppts behind. As a champion of the people, Kamala has an interesting past.
As Attorney General, she instructed her entire staff to stand every morning as she entered the office and say, ‘Good Morning General’...never address Harris nor look her in the eye as that privilege was only allowed to senior staff members.
Just my opinion but I find that cackle unnerving. Like a Batman villain.
https://nypost.com/2024/08/02/us-news/kamala-harris-berated-staff-with-…
Solar - its the vibe and labour are still in no mans land
“We will not take your support for granted,” then-Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on election night in 2020, after Labour won an unprecedented majority.
She was talking about first-time Labour voters, the blue-centre who were dipping their toes into red.
More than half a million voters abandoned National in the 2020 election, and while the number of Act voters swelled by some 175,000, Labour’s numbers rose by more than 200,000.
This was a celebration of Ardern’s response to the pandemic at the time. Except for closed borders and the absence of international tourists and students, many in New Zealand were living more or less as they always had while the rest of the world was seemingly on fire.
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Fast forward three years and Labour has crashed to a preliminary result of 26.9 per cent, almost as low as the 2014 disaster of 25.13 per cent under then-leader David Cunliffe.
Ardern’s popularity was never going to stay so high for long, but she had clear intentions to hold it there for as long as possible.
How did it all go so terribly wrong?
Jacinda Ardern walks up to deliver her victory speech to Labour party supporters at the Auckland Town Hall after romping home in the 2020 election. She promises to look after first-time Labour voters. Photo / Dean Purcell
Losing the centre
The “heading in the right direction” metric in regular Taxpayers’ Union Curia polls was happily trucking along at above 50 per cent until November 2021, when it dropped to 44 per cent. This was also the first time it went net negative (when the “wrong direction” metric is higher).
Those were the months when the Delta variant continued to creep through Auckland communities, despite an extended lockdown. Support for Ardern remained high when the lockdown started in August, but by November the centrist voters who had put their faith in Ardern were getting weary with every extension.
Ardern’s calls to continue the lockdown were based on public health advice at the time. Māori and Pacific health providers were calling for stricter rules because their population groups were at higher risk, and at lower vaccination levels.
Ardern had to draw a line so enough people were protected, but without the possibility of public frustration boiling over into a collapse of social cohesion. She progressively eased some of the rules, but the lockdown remained, followed by Aucklanders in the most restrictive settings when the new traffic light system started in December 2021.
The Taxpayers' Union Curia poll results showing the share of people who think the country is heading in the right or wrong direction. A sharp reaction is evident as the Auckland lockdown was extended into October and November.
Helping to protect minority groups - though not as much as health advocates wanted - generally isn’t the best way to maintain appeal among the majority. Ardern’s grip on the centre started to loosen, which was reflected in the mood of the country in the right/wrong direction polls.
The share of voters who believed New Zealand was heading in the wrong direction was 19 per cent at the start of 2021, according to the Taxpayers’ Union Curia data.
This rose throughout the year but dropped to 28 per cent in September, showing initial support for the lockdown. But it rose sharply to 36 per cent in October, and 45 per cent in November, as the lockdown was repeatedly extended.
The net metric for right/wrong direction rose into the positives over the summer months but dropped into the negatives again in March 2022, and never breached the positives again.
Two other rapid rises were of note during this period.
The first was online disinformation. Starting from December 2021 - when the vaccine pass essentially created two classes of Kiwi, which Ardern justified on public health grounds - New Zealanders were fed and soaked up Russian-seeded fake news about Covid-19.
According to a major Microsoft report, New Zealanders consumed Russian propaganda at a level 30 per cent higher than Australia and the United States, which fed into the sentiment that saw protesters occupying Parliament in February 2022.
Russian propaganda consumption in New Zealand increased by more than 30 per cent relative to consumption in Australia and the US at the end of 2021. Source: Microsoft
The second was in response to the massive cash injections throughout the pandemic: inflation. It leapt from 3.3 to 4.9 to 5.9 per cent from June to September to December 2021, a pattern observed around the world where similar cash injections had taken place.
But it wasn’t until mid-March 2022 that Ardern admitted for the first time to a cost-of-living crisis, having spent many of the preceding weeks refusing to say so.
By then voters were tired of the pandemic, the Parliament lawn had been on fire, the borders were still closed as the rest of the world was opening, and inflation - at 6.9 per cent - was still climbing, eating into how far everyone’s dollar could stretch.
Around this time National pulled ahead of Labour in the 1News Kantar poll for the first time since before the pandemic.
The aftermath of the extended lockdown continued to hurt Auckland and the Government.
Overworked and exhausted health workers struggled to cope not only with Covid patients, but a Covid-depleted workforce that was often in isolation. In announcing his retirement from politics, then-Health Minister Andrew Little said the winter of 2022 was the “first time I really felt the impact of prolonged stress because of my concern with the ability of the [health] system to cope”.
Education standards limped along following the downstream impact of empty classrooms.
And throughout 2022, the number of ram raids spiked, prompting youth justice advocates to point to disengaged youth - in part due to the extended lockdown - as a contributing factor.
Covid lockdown in Auckland, September 2021. Photo / Michael Craig
There’s a reason why Ardern’s replacement, Chris Hipkins, has repeatedly said that one of his biggest regrets was how long the Auckland lockdown dragged on.
The loss of the centre throughout Auckland is evident in the fall in Labour’s share of the party vote in seats that traditionally lean left: Mt Albert, New Lynn, Te Atatū, Kelston, Mt Roskill, and Maungakiekie.
What’s even more indicative, however, is the collapse in support in traditionally right-leaning seats, suggesting heavier losses among blue-centre voters who tried Labour and then abandoned it.
In electorates including Epsom, Tamaki, Pakuranga, North Shore, Upper Harbour, Kaipara ki Mahurangi, Whangaparāoa, East Coast Bays, Botany and Northcote, Labour’s share of the party vote more than halved between 2020 and 2023.
All of these seats returned a Labour Party vote below 2017 levels.
And even in Labour strongholds, voters stayed home this election: 13,000 fewer people voted Labour in Māngere in 2023 than in 2020. In Manurewa, it was 11,000 fewer.
The swing to Labour in 2020 and then the collapse - especially in traditionally blue seats - in Labour's vote in 2023 to below 2017 levels.
Losing the left
Expectations were high after Ardern’s majority win in 2020. All that political capital and so much to do, having, for example, declared climate change the nuclear-free moment of her generation.
Three years later, the question is: what was all that political capital spent on?
The 2023 election result mirrored Labour’s 2014 collapse (26.85 per cent versus 25.13 per cent), when Sir John Key had his arms firmly around the centre and some disaffected left-leaning voters opted for the Greens, which won virtually the same share (10.7 per cent) in 2023 as it did in 2014.
Labour added 13,000 public housing places but the waiting list was at a record high. Labour passed child poverty legislation and lifted 77,000 children out of poverty, but was constantly criticised for ignoring many of the expert recommendations on welfare, justice, and mental health and addiction reforms.
And there had been no movement on Auckland light rail, barely perceptible movement on Kiwibuild, a rebuke in the courts over Labour’s handling of the ETS (after the Government wanted to prioritise the cost of living), and, after Hipkins took the helm and tried to recover the centre, a shelving of the income insurance scheme.
In a sign of Labour losing support on co-governance, having failed to make the case for it or sell it well, Hipkins also took the Three Waters reforms from Nanaia Mahuta and handed them to Kieran McAnulty.
alth tax, despite support for it from senior colleagues Grant Robertson and David Parker, and following a report saying the wealthy pay half the tax of ordinary Kiwis.
Labour was still polling in the low to mid-30s and virtually neck-and-neck with National before Hipkins’ decision was made public in early July. Afterwards, Labour began its inexorable downward slide into the 20s.
Labour's internal polling took a hammering after the Michael Wood scandal that saw him stand down as a minister. Photo / Michael Craig
That wasn’t the only weight contributing to the slide. The other high-profile damage at the time was Michael Wood’s fall from grace.
The Herald had revealed Wood’s repeated failures to declare his various shareholdings that potentially clashed with his portfolio responsibilities, despite repeated warnings from the Cabinet Office. At the end of June, following further instances emerging, Wood resigned.
Hipkins had already lost Stuart Nash for divulging Cabinet discussions to his donors, and Meka Whaitiri who defected to Te Pāti Māori, but Labour had somehow stayed in the game with National in the polls.
It would later lose Kiri Allan, but Labour insiders say that the real hit in their internal polling came with the Wood scandal. It reeked of arrogance. The subtext of Wood’s inability to do a simple task was that the rules didn’t apply to him, or by association to Labour.
Wood was dumped down Labour’s party list but was still expected to win the Labour stronghold of Mt Roskill. But voters there, clearly unimpressed with his antics, turned his 14,000-odd majority in 2020 into a 1500-vote loss to National’s Carlos Cheung.
As they had done so in 2014, green-red voters swung to the Greens.
This was most emphatic in Wellington, where Green candidates Tamatha Paul and Julie Anne Genter won Wellington Central and Rongotai respectively. In the former, the Greens won the party vote by a margin of 3300.
But the pattern was evident in all the urban centres around the country.
Change in share of the Green Party vote in urban seats across 2017, 2020 and 2023
Change or more of the same
Having lost its grip on the blue-red centre and the red-green left, Labour started the campaign at the beginning of September somewhere between the mid-20s and 30 per cent, but trending towards the diehard 25 per cent who stick with Labour through thick and thin, as they did in 2014.
There was an opportunity to regain momentum in the election campaign, but Labour had been slow off the mark; it had taken weeks of political pressure - and months of rising inflation - until Ardern conceded there was a cost-of-living crisis in 2022.
And then Labour’s 10-point plan to address this in the campaign contained little more than more of the same. The only two points that were new were taking GST off fruit and vegetables, and a pledge to provide free basic dental care for under 30s.
These were also roundly criticised, the former for having no guarantee it would make much of a difference to consumers, the latter due to the workforce challenges.
Neither shifted the dial in the polls. Nor could Labour throw out any more lolly scrambles, given how tight the books were and the pressure it was under not to overspend.
Another key election issue was law and order, but Labour was slow to move on ram raids.
Hipkins fronted a number of youth justice policies in the middle of July, another attempt to regather some of the centre voters Labour had lost; the proposed punitive measures violated the rights of children.
“That needed to happen a year earlier, not weeks out before the house rises for the election,” one Labour insider said.
And then, in the middle of the campaign and seemingly on the fly, Hipkins dropped Labour’s prison reduction target. By then, the centre was no longer listening.
An emotional Chris Hipkins conceding defeat on election night.
It was always going to be an uphill battle for Labour facing such economic headwinds.
And it’s purely speculative to wonder whether ending Auckland’s lockdown earlier - which might have had deadly consequences in South Auckland - campaigning for a wealth tax, or cracking down on youth crime earlier would have made a difference.
As a Beehive insider told the Herald: “It never is one thing. Elections are always a vibe - either time for a change, or continuity.”
The vibe started with the Auckland lockdown, and only grew stronger from there, so the country voted for change.
The question for Labour is where to from here.
With the exception of Ardern at the helm, the party hasn’t had an election result in the 30s since Helen Clark was leader in 2008. And when Ardern took over as leader in the weeks before the 2017 campaign, she didn’t adopt any new policies.
This suggests that, over the past 15 years, Labour has only gained enough support to form a government when it has a leader with phenomenal star power, who can capture a zeitgeist. Such leaders don’t come along very frequently, and star power dims.
So how can Labour rebuild so it has the policies, the team, the vision, whatever it needs to have to win enough support to form a government - with or without such a leader?
State housing for workers?
how about huge levels of immigration suppressing wages?
how about policies that backfired in terms of housing affordability for *workers*
but to be fair, yeah they did do some good things for workers, you are right
But they needed to be doing much more. They had the mandate. Chippy’s ‘captain’s call’ on the wealth tax was a shocker
State housing is good for workers; more houses equals lower prices regardless of who owns them.
IMO they lost the youth vote because most of the things they failed on were for the young - environment (they actually did pretty well but probably didn’t advertise it well and then made petrol artificially cheap), housing, light rail and public transport, etc. They promised transformation and achieved little. And also the Auckland vote due to that unnecessarily long lockdown. Also Hipkins is not that amazing.
One only has to look at Queenstown the past 5 years to see that ‘more houses = lower prices’ is a fallacy.
If people are interested in the line of thinking that questions the conventional wisdom I highly recommend Dr Cameron Murray’s ‘The Great Housing Hijack - The Hoaxes and Myths keeping prices high for renters and buyers in Australia’
How rate hikes trigger inflation - worth looking into this, JFoe:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/08/how-rate-hikes-trigger-inflati…
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