The Reserve Bank (RBNZ) has previously explained its plan for a central bank digital currency (CBDC) is not a short term thing, nor is it a definite yet. It is a "multi-stage exploration until around 2030."
And maybe that could be a conservative timeframe judging by the appearance from RBNZ's Director of Money and Cash Ian Woolford, and Manager of Money and Cash Policy Robbie Taylor, before Parliament's Finance and Expenditure Committee this week.
If a sample of New Zealand's current lawmakers struggle with the idea of a CBDC as much as some appeared to during the RBNZ's appearance before them, then there's a fair chance the NZ public might struggle a bit too.
A CBDC, which the RBNZ's referring to as "digital cash," would be a digital version of NZ's existing fiat money, the NZ dollar, backed by the Government and representing a direct liability on the RBNZ.
The objectives for digital cash, the RBNZ says, would be; to ensure central bank money is available to New Zealanders and allow it to be used digitally, and to enable a money and payments system that is innovative, competitive and contributes to the development of NZ’s digital economy.
Some random remarks from the parliamentary hearing:
"I’m really struggling with conceptualising this."
"It's no more complex or difficult than anything you are currently using."
"I do think this gets quite tricky…"
"This is designed to clarify..."
And then, committee chairman and National MP Stuart Smith, in welcoming a visiting Parliamentary delegation that entered the committee room: "As you might have heard there’s quite a bit of confusion about how this will all play out."
But that's not to say there wasn't enthusiasm for what the RBNZ's proposing, with the idea being styled a "circuit breaker" that could "democratise money."
Consultation underway
The RBNZ is currently running public consultation on its proposals, with submissions due to close on July 26 - but there will be further opportunities for the public to have a say later. The RBNZ has not definitively said it intends to introduce a CBDC.
In launching the consultation process last month, the RBNZ's Woolford said a CBDC would help enable a money and payments system that is innovative, competitive and contributes to the development of New Zealand’s digital economy.
And innovation, was a big part of his presentation to the select committee.
NZ 'lagging'
Woolford noted New Zealand is "lagging" in its core payments systems.
While payments through the banks by individuals might take an hour, for example, the fast payments systems employed overseas are "near instantaneous."
"The New Zealand system is we would say 10-20 years behind other developed countries."
Woolford stressed the aim was not to replace cash, but to give choice and spur innovation in the private sector, "because we are seeing a lack of innovation in payments and product offerings" at the moment.
A CBDC would also pick up on the role of the current physical NZ dollar by acting "as a value anchor".
"The Reserve Bank wouldn’t engage directly with individuals," Woolford said.
"They [the public] would access the digital dollar either via their bank or some other financial institution that isn’t a bank. This will open up service providers offering different products for example.
"Payments could be made a point of sale. You could do it in a peer-to-peer way - outside of the banking system. It will be available offline. And it will be instant.
"The money won’t be programmable, in the sense that the Reserve Bank won’t have any constraints on how the money would be used and the Reserve Bank won’t collect any transaction data or even information about the individuals.
"Our relationship will be with the third party providers, so privacy is an important dimension of what we are talking about here."
Woolford said he understood the concern that people often have about the Government tracking the money.
"That is not the objective of this, with this form of digital cash - and indeed, we would like to see greater protections on the third party use of data than they would have for their own purposes.
"Whether or not you as an individual choose to use a digital form of cash in a sense doesn’t matter. If you benefit because digital cash has acted as a spur to innovation, which we think it will, then you will benefit directly," Woolford said.
He said the progress on open banking "has been glacial".
"So, you are seeing a lack of innovation from the New Zealand banking system - a lack of competition. Central bank digital currency will be competition in and of itself, because people will have choice, you can choose to use your bank or you can choose to use this other product."
Fintech 'going to need to be regulated'
Woolford said in talking about third party providers of the CBDC, "it really is the fintech sector that we are thinking about".
"For that to work they are going to need to be regulated and there’s got to be trust and confidence in them as well," Woolford said.
"That innovation has to come from somewhere. It’s not coming from the banking system. It will eventually but it will take a long time.
"We think that the innovation can come from the fintech sector but people do have to have trust and confidence so there will need to be some form of regulation."
The committee members expressed enthusiasm for having the RBNZ back to report further on its CBDC progress at a later date.
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Cash means freedom. I question those wanting to take freedom away from individuals. I currently use a combination of cash and an eftpos card. I prefer the physical connection to cash and the realization of where that money goes. My son only uses a card and doesn't even realize when he has placed 12 online purchases whilst playing a game. Somewhere along the way I have failed to coach him successfully in finance and the dangers of the digital world. We need to approach this with caution and much reservation.
"The Reserve Bank could have a fairly lengthy selling job to build public understanding of and trust in its proposed central bank digital currency."
Translation: Public opinion is currently strongly against CBDCs, so they need a few more years to manipulate and propagandise us through their puppets in the media.
It would be really interesting to track the public trust of government(s) following the covid years.
I mean just look at where vaccination stats are trending now. I just compared 12 month results end of 2018 vs end of 2023 for standard immunisations.
For age groups, 6 months, 8 months, 12 months, 18 months, 2 years, 5 years the immunisation rates have fallen by 10.4%, 8.1%, 5.5%, 14.5%, 9.9%, 9.5%.
Trust issue?
Yes, trust in governments and health authorities plunged massively on a global basis after the covid vaccine debacle.
That's what happens when governments mandate poorly-tested and almost useless vaccines (absolute risk reduction 0.84%) with the worst safety profile of any vaccine in history. Then those who have been seriously injured by it are ignored or gaslighted.
All for the sake of a virus with a (pre-omicron) fatality risk lower than a typical seasonal flu for anyone under 70 - and almost zero risk for children.
Its also trust in the official advice. During covid those that tried to warn about the dangers of the vaccine, point out its side effects, or go against public health policies like lockdowns or masks, were all simply fired, labelled conspiracy theorists, and cancelled off public platforms. Which makes one then wonder, have they done this before and we just didnt know about it? Was Andrew Wakefield (publisher of the "MMR causes Autism" research simply an early version of Robert Malone? How much more research has been suppressed in order to advance a Govt health policy that they refuse to admit is harming people?
I would like to suggest that peer-to-peer private cash payments can be facilitated by a centralised mint, such as a central bank, using a technology called "chaumian ecash." This technology ensures that the mint operator is blinded through cryptography to the users, their account balances, and transaction histories. Implementing this could be a viable approach for achieving a private implementation of Kiwi Cash. The technology is already gaining traction in the Bitcoin economy, which exceeds the size of New Zealand's economy. Examples of this in practice include "Fedi" and "Cashu."
Regarding Bitcoin, there is a concern among Kiwis about the risks of depositing Bitcoin with a New Zealand bank, given the potential for leverage and the nature of Bitcoin as a bearer asset. To mitigate this risk and harness the benefits of Bitcoin's pristine collateral in our financial system, we could consider adopting a model that has proven successful overseas. Specifically, we could ask deposit takers in New Zealand to form a federation, where Bitcoin is held in multisignature custody. An example of this is Liquid BTC, a federation of Bitcoin exchanges and service providers, which ensures that no single member can misappropriate the Bitcoin.
For instance, if we have 20 banks in New Zealand, we could set a threshold signature requirement of 15 out of 20 to safeguard the Bitcoin. Financial service providers could then interact with this pool of Bitcoin, dubbed Kiwi Bitcoin, by offering non-custodial swaps and liquidity into and out of the Lightning payment network, Liquid sidechain, and on-chain UTXOs. The Bolts Exchange provides a practical example of these services being offered to Liquid BTC.
The reason the Leftists/Globalists want a CBDC is because its programmable. This means the Govt can do whatever they like to your money, and there is nothing you can do about it. Some examples:
- they can instantly delete your money. Trudeau would have found that useful when he froze the bank accounts of the protesting Canadian truckers and then tried to go after everyone who had donated money to them. The threat of deletion will be held over everyone's heads for everything, ruling the population through fear. Any "wrong think" and you are instantly broke.
- they can reduce "inequality" or "racial disparity" by deciding that the value of certain groups' money will be worth less than other groups. So one groups $1 is worth only 80c when spent. Another groups may be worth $1.20
A CBDC is just a means to implement more social ideologies based on identity, whereas cold hard cash is an annoying equaliser that cannot be controlled. If one is created, you better hope you have some desirable skills to navigate a black market barter system when the Govt takes away much of your income or spending power.
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