In 2006, I wrote a paper that was published in the journal ‘Primary Industry Management’ titled “Agriculture’s Greenhouse Gases: how should they be calculated”. Eighteen years later I am returning to that topic.
In the intervening years both I and others have been on a learning curve as to the science. But the answers depend not only on the science. This is because greenhouse gas policies also depend on value judgements.
When it comes to value judgments, there is genuine scope for differences of opinion, with no perspective being fundamentally right or wrong.
The important value judgement relating to methane emissions is the time horizon over which comparisons should be made when comparing short-lived and long-lived gases. Methane is the key short-lived gas and carbon dioxide is the key long-lived gas, but with nitrous oxide also important.
Here in New Zealand, we are regularly told that agriculture creates half of the greenhouse gases that the country produces. It is unusual for an important caveat to be added pointing out that this is based on a value judgement of a 100-year time horizon.
This caveat is important because we would get a totally different answer if we compared methane and carbon dioxide based on their heating effects over 500 years rather than just 100 years. This is because for the relatively short-lived methane, well over 99 percent of the warming effects are captured within a time horizon of 100 years. However, the currently accepted science in relation to carbon dioxide is that only about one quarter of the warming effects of carbon dioxide emissions occur within this 100-year timeframe.
Hence, if we extend the time horizon to 500 years, then the relative heating effect of a tonne of methane compared to a tonne of carbon dioxide declines to about one quarter of the previous number.
Conversely, if we decrease the time horizon to only 20 years, thereby implying that we are only interested in the environmental effects over the next 20 years and don’t care what happens to the plants, humans and other animals on Planet Earth thereafter, then we would say that the effects of a tonne of methane relative to the effects of a tonne of carbon dioxide increase some three times compared to a 100-year time horizon, and 12 times relative to a 500-year horizon.
These numbers are set out in Table 7.15 of the IPCC’s AR6 report on page 1017, with the relevant snip from that table set out below.
The agricultural methane produced in New Zealand is totally of non-fossil source and hence the appropriate numbers are in the bottom row shown above. Those numbers say that the best evidence available to IPCC scientists is that if we move from a 100-year horizon to a 500-year time horizon, based on the notion that it is important to have Planet Earth survive for at least that amount of time, then the global warming potential of a tonne of methane drops to the equivalent of 7.2 tonnes of carbon dioxide instead of 27 tonnes. This totally changes the global warming importance of methane relative to carbon dioxide. It also greatly reduces the relative significance of agriculture to global warming.
It is important to recognise that the choice of which value to use is not about science but about value judgements. Hence, the choice between these values is not a decision for scientists. It is a decision for society, but society has to be informed.
Among my agricultural friends I often get told methane-emission charges should not be levied because methane is part of the pastoral carbon cycle. The argument is that the methane comes from animals that have eaten carbon-containing plants, and with the plants in turn having obtained their carbon from carbon dioxide. This statement about the carbon cycle is true. But the idea that methane is not an issue because of this cycle is not true.
The IPCC acknowledged about five years ago that the carbon-dioxide equivalent (CO2e) for non-fossil sourced methane should be less than for fossil-sourced methane. That difference is built into the AR6 numbers used in this article. But that does not stop non-fossil methane from contributing to global warming for the time it is in the atmosphere.
I also keep reading arguments from a different group of people that the science of climate change is ‘settled’. Well, the figures in that table above from the AR6 report indicate that, although the IPCC scientists consider the concept of global warming to be settled, they do not regard the specific numbers as settled. The ‘± numbers’ indicate the level of uncertainty and represent the 95 percent confidence range based on the ‘known-unknowns’.
A key point in all of this is that in moving to a 500-year time horizon, I have not diverted in any way from mainstream science. You can argue with me about whether the world we leave behind to future generations is important, but you cannot argue that I have moved from mainstream science in anything I have said above.
Of course, some people believe that Planet Earth time horizons should extend well beyond 500 years. I have no argument with that. However, the relativities of the gases will not change greatly by further increases in the time horizon. A 500-year time horizon is sufficient to emphasise that carbon dioxide is where the biggest action has to lie.
By now, some of my rural readers will be champing at the bit as to why I haven’t been focusing on a different metric for calculating methane’s warming effect, with that metric called GWP*, pronounced ‘GWP-star’. It is a popular metric among farmers and some agricultural organisations but it is not well understood. Farmers like it because it can give results that they want to hear.
GWP* is also discussed in the latest (AR6) report from the IPCC (p1016). The scientists assess the contribution GWP* could make and in what specific situations it might play a part. They are also explicit that they make no recommendation. And despite what many in the rural community believe, GWP* does not present new science. Rather it is another way of looking at the mainstream science.
Within the IPCC report, there are no figures presented for GWP* as to what the specific value should be. There is a good reason for this. The value depends not only on what an emitter is emitting right now, but also on what they have emitted over the last 20 years.
The formula for calculating GWP* for a particular situation, and here I quote from the AR6 report, p1016, is that: “the short-lived greenhouse gas emissions are multiplied by GWP100 × 0.28 and added to the net emissions increase or decrease over the previous 20 years multiplied by GWP100 × 4.24 (Smith et al., 2021)”.
What this means is that at a country level if the methane level has been stable over the last 20 years, then the warming value for the current year’s methane can be reduced to just over a quarter of the GWP100 figure.
In contrast, if there was no methane produced 20 years ago, then the GWP* assessment for the current year will be very high.
The formula is what we call a heuristic. It is simply a tool that might or might not be useful in particular situations. It contains no inherent science beyond what is embedded in the GWP100 measure, but it does gives credit for historical emissions.
In other words, a high historical-emitter such as New Zealand can sail along with a low assessment, and continue to do what it has been doing. In contrast, a country like India that has been increasing its livestock production would face a very high assessment per unit of current emissions.
The problem with this is that the atmosphere does not distinguish between emissions sourced from New Zealand or India. A tonne of added methane warms the atmosphere by a specific amount regardless of which country it comes from.
Another way of putting it is that a country like New Zealand would be ‘grandfathered’ and to a large extent would not be pressured to make change. We would actually be rewarded for our historical emissions. This idea is totally against the Paris 2015 agreement, which aims to assist rather than penalise developing countries.
So far, most of the promotion for GWP* has been occurring in an echo chamber. The agricultural proponents did get together at the recent UNFCCC conference in Dubai (COP28) among the more than 99,000 attendees, but it was not picked up as far as I can ascertain by any international media.
There has also been a developing literature criticising the GWP* metric on both ethical and practical grounds. I have seen none of that in the New Zealand media, but it is powerful.
The new coalition government has committed to a 2024 review of methane metrics and that is going to be very interesting. I am not convinced that either New Zealand’s farmer organisations or the Government are currently on top of the issues.
There is a lot more to be said about methane and warming. Accordingly, I plan a follow-up to this article within two weeks.
*Keith Woodford was Professor of Farm Management and Agribusiness at Lincoln University for 15 years through to 2015. He is now Principal Consultant at AgriFood Systems Ltd. You can contact him directly here.
32 Comments
Keith, Thank you.I am neither farmer nor scientist, but if I understand this at all, then with declining farm related methane emissions from reduced sheep and beef numbers, if not yet from methane inhibitors, then we should be well placed.
If we are being pressured to take much more drastic action, then that can only be political, not science based.
He has a point. Think of the earth as a human, with a expected lifespan of 80 years. A doctor could prescribe a diet / exercise reigme that would make that likely, or exceeding that , possible. most people would think those relatively small changes are all that's needed, and worth taking.
But the human has a crisis , takes up smoking and drinking, becomes obese, has a heart attack. the doctor is now saying he has to give up smoking and drinking, and eat bran muffins. not gradually , but right away . rapid , action is required , wether the patient likes it or not.
The earth hasn't had a heart attack , but humans actions are like smoking , excess drinking and overeating. Don't change them , and the timeframe is a lot shorter than 80 years.
In what other field of economics , or science is a timeframe of 500 years even considered???
True ... But ...
The global warming potential (GWP) for methane is about 84 in terms of its impact over a 20-year timeframe.[8][9] That means it traps 84 times more heat per mass unit than carbon dioxide (CO2) and 105 times the effect when accounting for aerosol interactions.
Great summary Keith with the real science used compared to a lot of commentary we see used. As usual there is no get out jail free card for anyone but the degree of cuts needed is a social and political decision. Complicated, as you well allude to, by the international ramifications for poorer countries and trade. This journey is a very complicated one with no one "right" answer and will continue to cause much debate and angst.
I'm glad I'm not the one having to set the reference points for a number one day!!!
Great to see you are still on the "case" Keith - new Govt will need expert assistance as Greenpeace and the CCC are certainly not independent advice.
Maybe we could help India "retire" some of their cow herd of approx 195 million - of which only 61 million are milk cows so the rest must be religious symbols - reducing that herd would be a win all round
Somewhat divergent from the article but on climate change in general. Appears the NZ public, the appropriate politicians and MSM latching onto it is NIWA's climate alarmism for NZ. Any CC measures have huge economic impacts on NZ. Particularly our agricultural sector, the biggest contributor to reducing our current account deficit.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/01/15/climate-fraud-in-new-zealand/
Get rid of FF and society collapses. But that's another way of saying "the methane problem is irrelevant".
Face it folks, we're between a very hard rock and a very hard place.
For anyone interested in the latest developments in peak oil: https://peakprosperity.com/the-peak-cheap-oil-debate-doombergs-chriss-r…
TLDR: US oil production (responsible for the majority of global oil production growth since 2010, thanks to shale oil) is likely to peak around Q4 of this year. Looks like global production decline probably won't start to bite (hard) until another 2-3 years after that though, barring geopolitical or other crisis developments.
It is important to recognise that the choice of which value to use is not about science but about value judgements. Hence, the choice between these values is not a decision for scientists. It is a decision for society, but society has to be informed.
If people really wanted zero carbon, they'd remove themselves from the carbon cycle and cancel out their consumption. But they don't. They want to stay alive, their family too, and have zero carbon. That's true for everyone, but it's also not possible in the current state of affairs. So everyone needs to have a say in what levels are right, with the understanding of what those levels mean for them. We can't mindlessly follow the science, because science is just a means of gaining understanding about the world, not a controlling mechanism. That's where the social Darwinists of the 1930s got it wrong.
That's not what zero carbon means. Or rather, nobody thinks we will ever be carbon zero, clearly it is impossible, not even desirable.
We are already at the band aid stage, thanks to 30 years of inaction.we need fast action yesterday, just to keep things liveable for the likes of us.
I hope the government does something, no matter how small, the worst thing would be to kick the can down the road again.
Anyone who thinks we can get away with doing nothing is in lala land, and shame on politicians and organisation's that have allowed them to think that is possible.
As I understand
If ruminant methane emissions are roughly stable (actually they are declining in NZ) then there is no additional warming being created because the methane emitted 20 years ago has mostly reverted back to CO2, which is all part of the natural carbon cycle.
Of course, with fossil fuel emission it is a totally different situation, as the carbon that has been in the ground for millions of years is being released into the atmosphere for thousands of years.
So when the New Zealand Government, decides that getting rid of pastoral food production is the way for NZ to address political climate pledges what they are actually saying is that they would rather allow the majority of citizens to continue to consume vast amounts of fossil fuel, in the short term, doing really important things like flying around the world holidaying and attending COP meetings, and deny future generations the opportunity to feed themselves or earn export revenue.
Because once the livestock have been removed, thus allowing NZ's fossil emissions to continue (in the short term) yet still achieve the Paris accord reductions. Livestock can’t easily be increased again without ignoring this climate science and news flash most of New Zealand isn’t suitable for growing crops, which uses huge amounts of fossil fuel in any case.
"Academics can quibble about the exact factors, but the fact that this formula is vastly more accurate than the traditional accounting rule is indisputable.
...Even more strikingly, if an individual herd’s methane emissions are falling by one third of one percent per year (that’s 7/2100, so the two terms cancel out) – which the farmers I met seemed confident could be achieved with a combination of good husbandry, feed additives and perhaps vaccines in the longer term – then that herd is no longer adding to global warming."
https://newsroom.co.nz/2019/03/28/a-climate-neutral-nz-yes-its-possible/
Its a redundant question as we look set to blow through 2 degrees of warming, we have very robust methods for calculating carbon emissions and a market (ETS), with each passing year we import and burn even more fossil fuel. We will continue to do the same with methane. Every Kiwi I work with doesn't see the issue with warming and continued pollution. Its a global attitude. We are too small I recycle its others that are the problem. God help us if we ever need to fight another world war.
As a dairy farmer, who believes they are well enough informed on the topic, it seems fairly simple to me. We have a unique opportunity to help reduce emissions for NZ/the globe quickly due to the profile of our emissions.
This will buy time for others to make longer lasting actions on the C02 front. (and us on the N20 front)
Personally, I believe farmers would buy into this concept more if it were presented as such instead of the villainous approach the NZ media currently take.
Industry profits are relatively low, the focus should be on reducing unprofitable feed (there is plenty of it), ensuring high pasture utilisation, improving 6 week in calf rates & empty rates (both very poor at an industry level), reducing replacement rates while improving herd genetics. All good profitable stuff that will make a meaningful difference to reducing emissions.
I find these global warming comments sections a bit disheartening. Time taken to compile salient points seems wasted if the message is glossed over, ignored and sometimes the author is attacked.
On another topic, here's a website that purports to estimate the IQ of the writer based on the written content https://www.writingtoiq.com/
It seems to be quite a nuanced method of intelligence analysis. I’ve calculated the IQs of some random names based on their contributions to this particular article (below). I would have thought that credence for a given comment should be proportional to it’s corresponding IQ metric.
Profile: 143
Solardb 130
ChrisOfNoFame 132
Jack Lumber 102
Citizen Smith: 89
Farmer Jo 100
Lanthanide 115
Refuting intelligence because of the known high intelligence of Nazi party members. That’s the guilt by association logical fallacy. I know what you're going to say.. straw man argument. No I''m just saying more credence should be given to intelligent points of view. It's not unreasonable.
No, I'm saying anybody is allowed an opinion, regardless of their supposed IQ( I got 3 very different scores for my 3 comments, thanks for posting the highest one). It's up to the reader to judge what relevance, or validity it has, not the site, nor any other site. I value this site because it allows dissenting opinions to the majority, obviously I do not agree with many, but I respect most people's views.
Other than surprising myself that I've put together more than 50 coherent words more than once, I got scores from 94-127.
Bloody average.
Lucky for me I have always thought IQ scoring was dependant as much on the creators background as the tested subject.
Damnit, I wanted to score this on but not enough words.
Still not enough, how about now?
This is really annoying I want to go to bed but it keeps telling me not enough text so I'm writing bollocks which is lowering my IQ.
Still wouldn't work. I give up.
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