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Small steps are underway to pay other countries to help meet New Zealand's international climate change commitments

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Small steps are underway to pay other countries to help meet New Zealand's international climate change commitments

New Zealand appears to be inching its way towards paying other countries to fight climate change on its behalf.

If adopted, this practice would augment domestic measures to cut emissions of greenhouse gases (GHGs).  

The Government insists no decisions have been made, but says officials are holding preliminary discussions with several unspecified countries to seek a way forward.    

If New Zealand goes ahead, it would echo practices of countries such as Switzerland, which has paid the African nation of Ghana to use clean technologies such as biofuels. 

A report by experts at public policy researcher Motu, argues New Zealand must start doing the same thing, and quickly. It says too much time has been wasted and New Zealand lacks the capacity to do the required work by itself at a realistic cost. 

The business community appears to be split between reluctant acceptance of this practice and alarm that it might be used to disparage New Zealand’s reputation. 

Put crudely, offshore mitigation raises the image of New Zealanders jetting off on holiday to Hawaii, while peasants in poor countries are paid to plant trees for them. And while all sides see this as a simplistic view, there are fears that the idea of New Zealand citizens passing the buck will bed in.   

'More is needed' 

The issue dates back to the Paris Agreement on Climate Change in 2015. At those talks, New Zealand issued a pledge – called a Nationally Determined Contribution (NDC) - to reduce net emissions 30% below 2005 gross emissions by 2030. In 2021 the promise was upgraded to net emissions falling 50% below 2005 gross emissions by 2030. But subsequent years of foot dragging have left New Zealand falling short of making these promises come true.    

“More is needed,” the Ministry for the Environment wrote in a report on polices needed for the years between 2026 and 2030.

“The gap between the (Government’s) first and second emissions budgets and the NDC is 101 Mt CO2-e.  The Government is considering how to address this challenge and will make further announcements in due course.”

In other words, the distance between what New Zealand needs to do, and has done, is huge. 

“This naturally raises the question of, ‘can’t we bridge that gap at home?’ and the answer to that is ‘no’,” says a Motu researcher Catherine Leining. 

“Afforestation is too slow……as you move further into that gap, mitigation costs increase…and methodologies (for assessing mitigation) change.”

Leining adds that from the start, successive governments never planned to rely solely on domestic measures and always envisaged foreign help in the fight against climate change. But they did almost nothing to make this policy work in practical terms. 

In one limited public response, a Treasury paper identified three paths for offshore mitigation: direct investment in emissions reduction schemes, investment in international carbon funds and purchasing credits from other countries’ emissions trading schemes.  

Later, the previous Labour Government expressly endorsed the principle of domestic, not foreign, climate mitigation.  But it said if we had to go offshore, then sustainable development within the Asia-Pacific region should be preferred.  The current government has now taken a step forward and said offshore mitigation is possible but not definite.    

“We are first focused on what we can do domestically to meet the target, but all options are on the table,” says the Minister of Climate Change, Simon Watts. 

“While no decisions have yet been made regarding the purchase of offshore credits or formal agreements, officials are advancing discussions with other countries to build a strong policy foundation for future decisions on cooperation.

“For example, in April, New Zealand signed joint statements with the Philippines, Thailand, and Singapore, which pave the way for discussions on the development of international carbon markets.”

Watts goes on to blame the previous administration for the problem. 

“The Government is committed to delivering our climate targets, including the first NDC under the Paris Agreement. The Motu Report highlights the challenges ahead, and we acknowledge that a lot of work is needed to meet the target, as we did not inherit a viable plan.” 

Carbon colonialism?

Motu’s report suggests offshore climate mitigation has a big problem with public opinion. It says many people think New Zealand should get its own house in order before moving next door. Nor should New Zealanders get a free pass for inactivity by getting other people to do their climate work for them.

Another complaint is “carbon colonialism”, which suggests that rich countries are taking the easy way out by paying poorer states to do the hard work on their behalf. And still others object to spending good money upfront, even if it holds the promise of future gain. 

Motu argues these objections are widespread, but there is a stronger principle at stake: climate co-operation. This tenet says that countries working together can achieve more climate mitigation than they can by going it alone, since they will be presented with far more opportunities for finding least-cost solutions. 

“Developing countries hold three-quarters of the cost-effective mitigation needed in 2030 to keep temperature rises below 1.5ºC, but currently lack the capability to make it happen, and historically have contributed least to the problem,” the Motu report says. 

“If higher and lower-income countries fail to work together to achieve that mitigation, the world will lock in dangerous climate change. Providing conventional climate finance to lower-income countries is crucial but is not the only option, and nor has it been sufficient so far."

“Supporting some level of off shore mitigation while maintaining ambitious domestic decarbonisation would enable New Zealand to deliver its committed global climate contribution, which goes beyond what is possible domestically," says Motu.

“This would be consistent with principles of a just transition.”

'There is never one solution'

All these issues are vital for the business community, which must pay higher prices for carbon-intensive inputs such as fuel while not always being able to pass those costs on to the customer in a competitive market. So, getting other countries to help us out of a jam makes some sense, according to the Sustainable Business Network (SBN), which helps small and medium sized companies (SMEs) to overcome environmental challenges. 

“There is never one solution,” says SBN’s chief executive, Rachel Brown. 

“There are going to be diverse solutions all over the place, and clever organisations are starting to say there will be some offsetting on an international scale, and that money will go offshore," Brown says.

“And I’m actually comfortable with that. It doesn’t feel naturally right, because you want to hold that money and keep it here. But the difference in cost between offshore and local is quite significant right now. We need to decarbonise at pace now. And if that means offsetting overseas, I think that needs to happen.”

Brown says any moves like these would be a big improvement, because, “frankly, year by year we are failing.”  She adds inaction is not a realistic option, because failure would undermine New Zealand’s place in a global, trading economy.  And most SMEs in her group have already faced up to the reality of change. 

“Prices of fossil fuels go up, they know all that, that’s no surprise. I think you’ll find the kinds of businesses that are in the SBN network are already well and truly down that pathway,” Brown says.

Reluctant approval

The SBN’s big brother is the Sustainable Business Council (SBC), representing larger companies. Together with its sister organisation, the CEO-based Climate Leaders Coalition (CLC), it gives reluctant approval to offshore mitigation. 

“While members recognise the need for some overseas reductions, SBC and CLC strongly believe that more detailed information on how New Zealand plans to meet this commitment is essential for maintaining international credibility,” says Antonia Burbidge, Head of Climate and Nature for the SBC. 

 “SBC and CLC urge the Government to provide a comprehensive strategy for addressing this gap, ensuring that New Zealand remains a responsible global actor in the efforts to address climate change.

“SBC and CLC recommend further transparency…..on the Government’s balance sheet. Failing to adequately cost and account for the NDC could lead to future financial and policy challenges which could affect New Zealand taxpayers and businesses," Burbidge says.

The environmental NGO, Worldwide Fund for Nature, also accepts foreign offsets, but does so through gritted teeth. 

“Nobody likes the idea of outsourcing our problems to other countries, especially when there are so many emissions reduction initiatives that can be advanced at home,” says its CEO, Kayla Kingdon-Bebb. 

“However, there has always been a place for international cooperation when it comes to meeting our climate commitments…..the challenge is getting the balance right - and the question is how we do that well and with integrity.”

Political inaction

Kingdon-Bebb says many domestic reforms could be ramped up, such as small-scale solar, more energy-efficient housing, restored wetlands and protecting native forests from pests.  All these issues are being neglected.   

“The political inaction on climate change by successive governments is going to cost us when it comes to meeting – or failing to meet – our 2030 target and future NDCs. We need to act with urgency to turn this around.”

The Motu report concludes by saying the problem is urgent. It says under current practices, the world will be three degrees celcius hotter in 2100 than it is now.  That is double the 1.5 degree ideal of Paris, and half as much again as the Paris accord’s reluctant second option, a two degree rise. 

And even if the commitments made in Paris are honoured, the increase in temperature will lessen only slightly, to 2.5 to 2.9 degrees. To meet the goal of a 1.5 degree increase, net emissions would have to fall by 42% by 2030 compared with 2019 levels. 

Motu says New Zealand is nowhere near that level of progress. 

In helping to write this report, Leining says her work was independent and does not reflect her position on the board of the Climate Change Commission. 

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Offloading New Zealand's commitment by paying other countries to do climate mitigation instead of New Zealand doing it is a fraud, for which we deserve to be ridiculed.
https://redd-monitor.org/2014/10/15/nine-reasons-why-redd-is-a-false-so…

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The whole climate change industry is fraud - propped up by pontificating politicians desperate to appear relevant. They can't run an economy and are so vain glorious they think they can change the climate with tax and slush funds for their mates.

"New Zealand was a net CO2 sink of −38.6 ± 13.4 million tonnes C yr−1."

A Comprehensive Assessment of Anthropogenic and Natural Sources and Sinks of Australasia's Carbon Budget

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2023GB007845

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The science is not settled on climate change. 

“CO2 does not cause global warming. Global warming causes more CO2,” said Edwin Berry, a theoretical physicist and certified consulting meteorologist. He called Royal Society’s position on CO2 “pure junk science.”

Ian Clark, emeritus professor for the Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences at the University of Ottawa, agreed that if all greenhouse gas emissions ceased today, the Earth would continue warming—but not because of CO2.

He said that contrary to popular opinion, temperature doesn’t follow CO2—instead, CO2 follows temperature, which, itself, is due to solar activity.

Temperature and CO2

One of Mr. Clark’s primary areas of research is paleoclimatology (the study of climate conditions using indirect records such as tree ring data, ice cores, and other proxy records), and in particular, Arctic paleohydrogeology, which is the study of the Earth’s water throughout history.

“During the ice ages, we had great temperature variations, and this has to do with, not straight-up solar activity, but the amount of solar activity that is hitting the Earth at certain important latitudes, all caused by celestial events,” Mr. Clark said.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/fixation-on-co2-ignores-real-driver-of-temperature-say-experts-5588495

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Yeah, the science of AGW is settled. Only a few ideologically driven quacks disagree.

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Surely there are more important things we can allocate resources to before worrying about another vanity project.

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After creating a failure, they sent money offshore to compound the stupidity.

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It also means our infrastructure development will fall ever-further behind because the stop-gap has become the norm - until it can no longer be sustained and we'll be in an even larger mess than now.

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We just need to follow the example of these countries which have very low per capita CO2. 

Somalia
Central African Republic
Burundi
Madagascar
Niger
Chad
Rwanda
Sierra Leone
Afghanistan
Uganda
Ethiopia
Guinea-Bissau
Gambia
Eritrea

 

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Those countries need housing ponzis.

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As NZ is more advanced than those countries we could easily back pedal and ask MBIE to come up with a mud/straw/adobe type hut standard so we can emulate them, but to a higher standard for eathquake resistance. Special approved composting toiles and local interconnected rain water schemes for a water supply.

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The climate projections are woefully out of date. If UN commies can't predict a relatively simple thing like population how on earth can they predict future climate! Current birth rates have us on the path for SSP1, SSP3 needs 13 billion by 2100 to get a 3 degree rise from the Little Ice Age. Not happening at current birth rates.

"According to Fernández-Villaverde’s calculations, the combined impact of the yawning misses for emerging market countries and smaller overestimates for wealthy western nations puts the true global population trajectory on the UN’s “low fertility” pathway. That would mean a peak at around 9bn in 2054, 30 years earlier than in the headline forecast."

https://www.ft.com/content/3862923c-f7bd-42a8-a9ea-06ebf754bf14

"People underestimate how quickly this effect will be felt. South Korea currently has a total fertility rate of 0.81. For every 100 South Korean great-grandparents, there will be 6.6 great-grandkids. At the 0.7 fertility rate predicted in South Korea by 2024, that amounts to 4.3 great-grandkids. It’s as if we knew a disease would kill 94 percent of South Koreans in the next century.

People underrate how quickly this can become serious, once it is felt. As recently as the mid-1990s, South Korea had a birth rate of 1.7, which is close to the U.S.’s present rate. A fertility collapse takes around thirty years before it causes a population collapse, and once that happens, the collapse is inevitable."

 

 

 

 

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Chris Trotter: 'There is only one way this planet will be saved from the effects of the 9 billion human-beings living upon its surface; and that is for more than 8 billion of them to disappear.'
https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/101146/chris-trotter-deconstructs-ar…

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Chris Trotter? You are getting your wish.

"Assuming the continuation of the current trajectory of our fertility and mortality (and even with some variation), the exponential population growth of the mid-20th century (doubling time of 37 years) is about to flip to an asymptotic decline, with the population halving every about 40 years.

...No nation that has had its TFR drop below 2.0 has ever seen it rise back above 2.0.

So, within not too many hundreds of years, and depending on the TFR, there are likely to be less than one billion people alive, and possibly only one-tenth of that, lower than it was 10 000 years ago."

https://insightplus.mja.com.au/2024/8/health-care-in-for-a-roller-coast…

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PDK not weighing in here. I thought we'd have resources for some time to come with say 4billion

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Hopefully population collapse will save us from ourselves. :-)

Fascists and Authoritarians are working hard to reverse the trend of course (along with tunnel visioned economic ideologues, who believe feeding the omnipotent economic super organism is paramount).

Can't project power if your army needs wheelchairs.

Seems there may be a subconscious biological mechanism at work that reduces reproduction rates? The main factor affecting numbers born is childhood mortality. Among many other factors of course. Many women now choose to remain childless because of the disgusting state humans have left the planet. 

"SSP3 needs 13 billion by 2100 to get a 3 degree rise from the Little Ice Age. Not happening at current birth rates."

Well, we are at 1.6degC now. It doesn't take too much imagination, with current record breaking CO2 emissions, that we will breach 3degC by centuries end. Tipping points are close and 90% of the worlds population want the emissions lifestyle of NZ. 

"Global energy-related COemissions grew by 1.1% in 2023, increasing 410 million tonnes (Mt) to reach a new record high of 37.4 billion tonnes (Gt)." 

https://www.iea.org/reports/co2-emissions-in-2023/executive-summary

Here's hoping for a smaller, cleaner, sustainable, steady state human economy, where species other than humans have room to move.  

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Your subtext is "I hope lots of people die", so that the species can persist. That's extremely fatalistic and hyperbolic. Climate change is not an existential threat to the human species, nor civilisation as we know it.

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No, people dying is your subtext. My hope is that population will decline without collapse and allow breathing room for the planets natural systems to repair themselves. Of course exponential growth cultists and their techno utopian priests will do everything in their power to extract all life and resources until Earth is a dry husk. The Fermi paradox in action.

The signs are good though. People are becoming increasingly sick of neo liberal growthism, it's just they haven't been allowed to think about alternatives. COVID was almost a circuit breaker, but now we're back on track to becoming the over crowded, over developed, over extracted hole the growth cult have wet dreams over. At least women are voting with their wombs.

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The climate scam was best described as

" poor people in rich countries giving money to rich people in poor countries"

I guess nz qualifies as a "poor" country now

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Indeed. We need to take responsibility for our own dirty habits. Something fake conservatives and libertarian types hate is responsibility though. When I see words "scam" and "hoax" by commenters, I immediately think of adult children whose mum still cleans them. 

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NZ is a carbon sink. You need to get over it. It’s a great thing apparently, but we are still dumb enough to give money away that we don’t have to solve a problem that does not exist. If you are see keen maybe you could contribute more to the stupid fund if it makes you feel good.

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Wouldn't it be better for us to spend money developing technologies to fight climate change and then sell that technology to others?

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Keeping climate stability is not a "fight". We simply need to degrow. Find something else fulfilling, rather than burning. 

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Should New Zealand use overseas help to meet its climate change commitments?

No.

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Every other western country has the same plan , so what is going to happen to the cost of those "cheap" 3rd world country credits ???

The cost of cutting the ute tax , higher speed limits , cutting the industry carbon subsidy, and virtually everything else  the new Govt has done should be calculated at a carbon cost of at least USD $ 100, i can't see the international price been any less than that in 2030 , and possibly double. 

A bit rich for Watts to claim the last govt's plan was not viable , then replace it with actions that are worst .  

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If we were serious about meeting our 2030 targets, we would close the border to immigration. That would have made a non-trivial difference as the 10,000's of Kiwi's emigrated and should not have been replaced. Instead we have had north of 100k move here. Why? Can you not see it sends a strong message - we don't care about our commitments, and if the Govt doesn't, why should I? What is the point of it all, it's clear we will not sacrifice economic growth to achieve our commitments.

We had the perfect opportunity to reduce emissions and instead we are looking at planting tree's in The Gambia. 

Let me put it another way, we closed the global economy for Covid. Shut borders, closed retail, made everyone stay at home. Surely an existential climate crisis is of greater concern than a respiratory virus? Where is the urgency?

 

 

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Not to mention Simeon Brown removing climate considerations from the NZTA's objectives and refusing to allow them to even try to work out the carbon impacts of building Simeon's mega roads.

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I'm over thinking about him, he is so under par.

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Obviously, yes, we should. This is the entire logic of carbon credits. If climate change is a global problem, then we need global credit accounting. The cheapest mitigation options should be on the table, or else you're merely advocating that we pay more than is necessary to achieve the same result.

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