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RBNZ Governor Adrian Orr expects to serve out his five-year term despite polls pointing to a change in government

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RBNZ Governor Adrian Orr expects to serve out his five-year term despite polls pointing to a change in government
Reserve Bank Governor Adrian Orr in August 2023
Reserve Bank Governor Adrian Orr in August 2023

Reserve Bank (RBNZ) Governor Adrian Orr does not have any plans to end his tenure if the Government changes after the election in October. 

Last year, Labour reappointed Orr to a second five-year term at the head of the central bank, despite opposition from the National and Act parties. 

Recent opinion polls show these two parties with enough support to form a government after October's election, although the race remains tight. 

A simple polling average shows National-Act winning about 62 seats, leaving the left-leaning bloc with just 58 seats. New Zealand First was still under the 5% threshold in the average. 

This result would likely see National’s Nicola Willis take on the role of Finance Minister with responsibility for the Reserve Bank. She has been highly critical of the Bank’s performance. 

Interest.co.nz asked Orr on Wednesday if he planned to serve the remainder of his term if the opposition parties were able to form the next Government. 

“I don’t have any comment on that. I’m employed for a five year term,” he said.

He was also asked if he expected to see any challenge to the RBNZ’s independence should there be a change in Government.

“Our legislation is written in law. Future governments can change the law. That’s all I can say. I think we are in a very strong position as a central bank, doing its job for Aotearoa New Zealand.” 

On Thursday, Willis said a National-led government would require the central bank to have its Covid-era decision-making independently reviewed

“It was one of the banks around the world that did the most money printing and we think there needs to be an objective assessment of how well that decision making was made.”

“We’ve had 27 months of inflation outside the target band. That cost of living crisis is really hurting New Zealanders and I’m disappointed about that.”

Willis said she respected the independence of the Reserve Bank and wouldn’t make any assessments of individuals until that review had been completed.

The bank has done its own five-year review of monetary policy, which found it should have begun to lift the Official Cash Rate earlier than it did. 

Committee combat

Earlier on Thursday, the RBNZ’s senior leaders appeared before Parliament’s finance and expenditure committee

Willis challenged the Governor over why the central bank had failed to correctly forecast how long inflation would remain at high levels. 

“What is going on here? …why is it taking so long to get inflation out of our economy,” she asked. 

Orr said there had been a series of supply shocks that had been hard to predict and counteract, but he was confident inflation pressures were easing now. 

“The other thing that strikes me is just how inaccurate the Reserve Bank’s forecasts have been,” Willis said. 

This time a year ago, the bank was forecasting the annual consumer price index would be 4.1%, almost two percentage points lower than it actually was in the June quarter.

Adrian Orr and Paul Conway, the RBNZ’s chief economist, said one reason for the gap was the inflationary impact of Cyclone Gabrielle. 

But Willis challenged them on this point, saying it was a stretch to suggest the cyclone was responsible for a two point differential in the inflation rate. 

She was proved correct a few minutes later, when Labour’s Anna Lorke asked them to clarify how much lower inflation would have been without Cyclone Gabrielle.

Rebecca Williams, the RBNZ’s manager of forecasting, was brought forward to answer the question and said the inflation impact was less than originally expected

“While it was definitely one factor, it was 0.1 to 0.2 percentage points,” she told the committee. 

Most of this impact was in fruit and vegetable prices, although it was not possible to measure its other impacts, such as on construction costs which have been running hot.

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He won't have to resign. He'll just get replaced by a Unreserved Bank of NZ

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His contract was rolled over for five years. Somewhat unprecedented that. Why would you resign when you could collect a couple of $million or so to be bought out. Actually he is in a win win situation, isn’t he.

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Not unprecedented at all, same thing happened with Bollard and Brash, the latter was reappointed for 5 year terms twice

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Governor Orr has done an outstanding job in the toughest of circumstances.

National and ACT have nobody between them who could hold a candle to Orr.

TTP

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If National have their way, he'll be replaced by the Reserve Bank of Property

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Rather than putting the boot into the RBNZ, it would be good for political parties to focus on the fiscal policy measures they propose to implement to target inflation caused primarily by:

  • Housing sector (construction costs/ rents)
  • Fuel sector (petrol)
  • Agricultural sector (fresh fruit and vege).

For too long they have left it to the RBNZ to control with interest rates, which is:

  1. punitive, and
  2. really just the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff!
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Fair point. But could we at least bury the nonsense about their 'independence'? They're not in the slightest bit independent really. It's a fraud and lie they continually shill to the public. 

Of course I don't expect anyone like Argentina's Javier Milei is going to rise up the political ranks and start calling it like he does. 

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I agree.  I would like to see them limited to banking regulator and give up on the pretence that they can somehow control underlying inflation (giving politicians a convenient scapegoat as noted above).

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Don't be silly. People like Javier Milei are know-alls that only bubble to the top in extreme circumstances, like Argentina is in now.

"Politically, Milei has been variously described as far rightultraconservative, and right-wing libertarian. While he identifies as a minarchist or liberal-libertarian [esfr], he adheres to the philosophy of anarcho-capitalism." Source

New Zealand isn't in anything like an extreme circumstance and it is silly to suggest it is. Sure we have problems, but they aren't anything like Argentina.

And I do think the RBNZ is basically independent in carrying out their mandate. If they weren't it is hardly likely they would have raised interest rates to the recent highs just before an election, and said they are trying to engineer a slowdown with more jobless. I can't think of any politician who would allow that if the RBNZ wasn't independent.

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Don't be silly.

I'm not being silly. I said that nobody in NZ will behave like Javier Milei towards the RBNZ. You're agreeing with me. 

New Zealand isn't in anything like an extreme circumstance and it is silly to suggest it is.

That all depends on what you call or how you define "extreme". And more often than not, different situations help us understand different scenarios, whether that be Argentina, the U.S., or Japan. 

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We are not remotely comparable to Argentina and to suggest we are is very naive. Argentina has defaulted 9 times, think about that.

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NZ is also not like Japan in terms of central banking in relation to base to broad money. But you are missing the point entirely. And the point is that you are unlikely to see a NZer openly criticize the RBNZ, Federal Reserve, BOJ, or any central bank. 

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And I do think the RBNZ is basically independent in carrying out their mandate

"Independence" of central banks is related to their separation from political influence. And you have to be naive to believe that they are independent. The RBNZ is a prime example here as they introduce all kinds of different "politically aligned" narratives and values as unelected officials.  

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J.C - Very few people on this site actually really see what is going on. Or they dare not say !

The type of person who actually believes the RBNZ is Independent is the same person who believed interest rates would never get to 7% last year.

They are also the same person who believes 10% Interest Rates This Year is Impossible.

From The Scroll, page 5.

by Future | 7th Oct 22, 2:34pm

The Seal has been Broken. This is how the Scroll reads.

It is NOT about High Interest Rates to Fight Inflation. It IS about High Inflation to Justify High Interest Rates. Ponder on this before the Seal is Broken on the Second Scroll. 

The Prophet.

When people can leave their little safe lives and move out from the Matrix it actually is very easy to see what comes next.  But most are just pussies.

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Changing the reserve bank governor isn't going to change anything. The present incumbent actually was ahead of many in raising interest rates around the world.

I guess many just want someone to blame. The old saying "hind sight is a great thing".

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This is garbage. There were plenty of people deriding the 'transitory' line at the time. People just tuned it out because it didn't suit their personal narrative. This site is full of people who could see inflation leaping up before we started to do anything about it.

Trying tp sin this as 'hindsight' is making excuses for being asleep at the wheel, which our leaders were. 

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Nope, dropping interest rates was a huge mistake.

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The problem with interest rates is they don’t fix the underlying problem.  So when you inevitably have to lower them again at some future time, the same inflation problems just spring back to life.

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Yes. NZ stupidly follwed the US and dropped direct house prices from the CPI. Only the biggest consumer good ever.

We lowered interest rates too far and blew asset prices through the roof.

Now we are raising interest rates too much while house prices (land) fall.

It’s simply absurd. Great way to screw everybody and the economy.

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Yup. A series of foolish decisions all due to the way NZ and the west has 4 year election cycles. Everything is done simply to keep swing voters happy for <4 years. 

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Who says they have to be lowered?

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Wow. This (Makara's comment at 5-28pm) is quite possibly the most sensible comment that I have seen on the "have your say" section here in quite some time!

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If you convince  yourself that you are unaccountable and there is no influence, no alternative opinion to suggest that actually you are accountable, then you are fire proof. Likely that applies to Orr but in the civil service, at all levels, it is hardly a unique circumstance.

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That’s good. CB independence is key. 

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Willis was correct in her criticism. Put her as party leader and National would canter in at the election.

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National is going to canter in anyway. Slick billboards went up down here over the last few days, picture of Chris and Willis only on them. Also see that ACT has gone the same format.

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She needs to roll him soon after. Let November's OCR rise come in whilst house defaults soar, economy contracts and Christopher stumbles and stutters.

e tu nicola?

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Yeah you may be right. I also think there’s going to be a low turnout for labour this time around as well.

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I'd like to see Erica Stanford get a run 

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The headline should have stopped at Adrian Orr has no plan...

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