This is a re-post of an article originally published on pundit.co.nz. It is here with permission.
The low coverage of the 2018 Population Census and Dwellings has generated all sorts of difficulties. You are told that census results are vital for allocating electoral seats and education and health funding. That is absolutely true but social researchers use its findings for many other purposes. For instance, it has a comprehensive survey of our housing stock and of people’s internal migration while it also used to guide the disability survey. Its detailed age and gender structure is vital for national and regional population projections.
(It may be especially useful for the reconstruction arising from Cyclone Gabrielle, especially for housing on the margins and isolated. Censuses are very good for dealing with such groups.)
Getting the count accurate is so important that there is a follow-up survey to avoid an undercount. One of the paradoxes of the census is that while every person and house should be covered, individual responses are only of interest when they are aggregated. Your response is not available to any other agency. Government Statisticians have told me they would resign if the statutory protection of the census was compromised.
The professional statisticians of Statistics New Zealand did a marvelous job patching the 2018 Census using administrative data but the Census collects information which is not in the various administrative data bases. Perhaps once a month I am working on something, consult the 2018 data base and say ‘damn’ because it is not there or I cannot trust its figures.
You might think that surveys fill the gap. For instance, once the only source we had on the state of the labour market was the quinquennial (five-yearly) census. In 1931 and 1941 it was not held; the first, in order to reduce government spending during the Great Depression, the second, because the country was at war. Uh, oh; those were two times when the level of employment and unemployment were exceptionally important. There is an argument among quantitative historians on just how much unemployment there was during the Depression with all sorts of estimates. The war problem is that with soldiers overseas and the retired and housewives replacing them, we have little idea what was happening in the domestic labour market.
(Even the 1945 census is problematic. It was held in September because they needed the data to allocate seats for the 1946 election. The traditional date for the census is the first Tuesday in March – in the next case, 7 March 2023. The labour market is seasonal, so one has to be cautious comparing a September figure with a March one.)
I found a surprising fact while looking at the unemployment data before the 1930s. The reported unemployment rates are low – below 3 percent. A 1931 census would have had a rate a number of times higher. Oh, 1991 is an exception too; the unemployment rate exceeded 10 percent.
We had a Household Labour Force Survey in 1991. However the HLFS is calibrated against the Population Census; you may find small retrospective changes to its estimates when the census data becomes available. In any case, a survey cannot go into the detail of a census. For example, how many people say they are economists?
There are items in the census which are not available anywhere else, as in the case of the question about religion. (My response gives me more trouble than any other census question. How do I provide a useful description of my complicated beliefs in a mere 39 characters?)
To show the complexity and importance of the census I focus on ethnicity questions. There is a ‘race’ question, where respondents are asked whether they are of Māori descent. That is required by law for the allocation of Māori electorates (a complicated exercise because while adults of Māori descent may or may not register for Māori electorates, children of Māori descent have to be allocated between Māori and General electorates.) Descent questions are a matter of fact, something necessary for legal purposes here.
But ethnicity is subjective. Statistics New Zealand guidance is as follows:
Ethnicity is the ethnic group or groups that people identify with or feel they belong to. Ethnicity is a measure of cultural affiliation, as opposed to race, ancestry, nationality, or citizenship. Ethnicity is self-perceived, and people can belong to more than one ethnic group.
So you may be of Māori ancestry but not judge yourself of Māori ethnicity. That is your right. (A racist regime would not allow that.) About half of those of Māori descent say they have a second ethnicity, usually ‘New Zealand European’ or Pākehā. We don’t know the exact proportion, not for 2018 anyway. What we do know is that is over the years that proportion has been rising. It may be more than half in the 2023 census.
One complication is that while one cannot change the facts of one’s descent (one may learn more about them), people change their subjective ethnicity. And not just between censuses. A study at the University of Otago’s Wellington School of Medicine found differences between what some people record on Census night and what is recorded on their death certificates. The change was enough to affect estimates of mortality rates and the associations with causes of death for Māori.
We tend to ignore the existence of those who describe themselves as ‘Māori-Pākehā’. The usual practice is to lump them in with sole-Māori, but on most socioeconomic measures they sit between sole-Māori and Pākehā. That means that sole-Māori are typically more deprived than all-Māori.
I have been following the convergence between Māori-Pākehā and non-Māori over time but the inadequacies of the 2018 census count meant I have been unable to since 2013. I would have thought that this evolution is one of the most important things happening on the cultural front in New Zealand. The population census is the only reasonably comprehensive source that a social scientist has.
So while, and rightly, we talk about the importance of the census to education, health and housing policy and to the electoral system, the data it collects has many other important uses. Let’s hope that the count on the night of 7 March 2023 goes a lot better than it did five years ago.
PS. One of my grumbles about the census is that while you are encouraged to complete your census form online – I can see the advantage to Statistics New Zealand of doing that – you can’t get a copy of the results for your own records. I have, after all these years, realised that I can fill in my form and transfer the data online from it, keeping the form as a record. I add that Statistics New Zealand and users of the census are very happy for those who are not confident with computers to fill in the form and post it or hand it to their census enumerator.
*Brian Easton, an independent scholar, is an economist, social statistician, public policy analyst and historian. He was the Listener economic columnist from 1978 to 2014. This is a re-post of an article originally published on pundit.co.nz. It is here with permission.
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How can you take a census seriously if it has been captured by the Gender Identity ideology and is asking questions for what you believe your "gender identity" is and and they will impose a default answer if you don't provide one?
There is no option for you to state that you don't believe in the "gender" woo woo ideology and therefore don't have a "gender identity".
Biological sex is real, and questions relating to sex are necessary for long term planning purposes, but "gender identity" is a fiction pushed by "Queer" activists that Queer Theory propagandists claim can change from day to day and moment to moment.
Of what value is there in conducting a census about something that is not immutable and can change on a whim?
But you do know that there really are people who identify as transgender right?
And you do know that it's a group that's more likely to suffer harm / negative consequences than the rest of society right?
And you do know that having data can help drive decision making to reduce harm right? (Doesn't always work - see article above)
If you think you have seen any evidence of Queer Theory Propaganda, I think you'll find you were actually looking at someone who believed what they were saying (so it's not propaganda).
Wasn't there also a question about religion in the census? If you want fiction, you were looking at the wrong part of the form.
Isn't propaganda state sponsored spread of misinformation?
What could be a better example than that of a man saying that he is a woman.
The Emperor has no clothes has become non fiction
You cannot disprove the Bible. But I can disprove your false belief in gender theory by pointing at your private parts.
If you were quietly walking down the street ... and coming towards you was a semi-naked dude in his dress , with a glowing halo above his head , and a small wonky looking choccy bar swinging down below ...
... would you explain " OMG ! ... what a Willie , Wonka !!! " ..
The gender identity question should be treated *exactly* the same as the religion question. It’s not. You can chose *no religion* you cannot choose *no gender*. If you pick ‘none’ it will be coded as ‘other gender’. If you do not enter an answer the department of stats will ‘infer’ a your gender to you.
I have no issue with those who believe they have a gender identity being asked about it in the census. I do not have a gender identity. I resent very much being assigned one. In the same way I would object to someone who answered ‘no religion’ being told a denomination would be inferred for them from ‘other data sources’.
It is also a terrible decision by the Department of Stats to have a presumption of sorting data on gender not sex lines.
2023 Census fact sheet: Rainbow communities | 2023 Census | Aotearoa New Zealand
"It’s important that the census represents all the people of Aotearoa New Zealand...to help create a better understanding of your community and what it needs...
Gender refers to your social and personal identity as a male, female, or another gender or genders that may be non-binary...Sex at birth refers to the sex that was recorded for you when you were born, for example on your birth certificate. Collecting both gender and sex at birth information will give us data that will better reflect the diversity of Aotearoa New Zealand, and also enable the production of more accurate and detailed information across population groups. Sexual identity data will provide important insights about how social outcomes may vary by sexual identity."
Many people don't believe in the identity spin. It is make believe or delusion. Maybe mental illness. There are only two sexes, Male and female. If you mutilated your body or dress up in clothes / makeup does not make you a male or female. However no one should demonized or ridiculed for their sexuality. Also neither should people be forced to accept a woman is a man and a man is a woman, when biologically they are not.
You can chose ‘no religion’ in the census - you cannot chose ‘no gender’. The issue is they are forcing people to say they have a gender identity. You can say in the census ‘no religion’ and that is how it is coded. If you put ‘none’ for the gender question it will be coded as *other gender identity*. If you do not answer the Dept of Stats will infer a ‘gender identity’ to you based on (as yet) undisclosed other data sources.
I do not have a gender identity. I do not believe in ‘Gender Identity’. I should have that accurately recorded in my census declaration and not a made up gender assigned to me. There is no objection to people who have a gender identity answering a question on it that accurately reflects their beliefs. I just want the same option.
The decision by the Dept of Stats change to a presumption to sort data by gender and not sex is wrong. Think of how misleading this will be in terms of accurate data on sex based violence or in comparisons of women and men’s wages or in accurately using the census data to plan for breast cancer strategies etc,
For a copy of your own census results for your own records, simplest is to screenshot it.
Or you can request a copy under the Privacy Act. (The Government Statistician is permitted to do so by s40 of the Data and Statistic Act 2022, under strict conditions).
In practical terms you can request a copy by asking a field collector if/when they visit your house, or (because the collector has to call the Field Staff Helpline to log your request) it is simpler to call the public contact centre directly (0800 236 787).
When you are a minority, it is sometimes to your advantage to claim a higher prevalence in the population to support your cause eg spoken languages, ethnicity, gender identity.
The oft quoted 1.7% of the population being intersex is rarely challenged by the media but repeated ad nauseum. A search through pubmed (database of published medical literature) has figures 1/10 to 1/100 of the 1.7%. Looking forward to seeing how the NZ population describe themselves.
Also there is no measure or check for respondents claims of language fluency. Gut feel is this is inflated for many second languages.
No, there is lots of real data that is very useful, it is just that many/most people don't have access to it - I mean most of the below is how they fill in Census "Gaps"
- ICPs give a better indication of the number of residential, commercial, and industrial properties.
- Hospital admissions give a much better indication of local population demographics.
- Bank account records provide better population data, financial data, and economic data.
- School enrolments gives better youth population data and demographics.
- EFTPOS transactions gives a better idea of spending and costs.
- Immigration, births, deaths and marriages, also provides more useful population data.
- Traffic counters give much better vehicle stats.
- Internet sites give much better viewing numbers.
Having been involved in many different "big data" projects, you would be amazed at how much better data there is than anything coming out of Stats NZ. Even the publicly released Covid vaccination information was a vertiable goldmine of useful data.
Start matching and cross referencing the datasets above and you have a much more accurate picture of the country than any self-completed form will give.
The Census is not what it used to be.
Here's the birthplace and religious makeup of NZ in our first census:
Birthplace
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Birthplace Population
Percentage
United Kingdom New Zealand - 12.3
Totals, Overseas-born – 87.7%
England England 13,485 50.5
Scotland Scotland – 12.7
United Kingdom Ireland – 16.5
Wales Wales – 0.4
Totals, British Isles – 84.4
Other – 3.3
Colony of New Zealand 26,707 100.0
Denomination 1851 Census
Number Percentage
Christian 24,930 93.35%
Church of England 14,179 53.09%
Presbyterians 4,124 15.44%
Methodists 2,755 10.31%
Baptist 400 1.50%
Totals, Protestants 21,458 80.34%
Roman; Catholic 3,472 13.00%
Jews 65 0.24%
Other specified religions 1,712 6.41%
The census isn't what it used to be, because NZ isn't what it used to be. The country has come a long way and changed a lot, and is much more complicated to run because of how diverse we are in almost every respect.
The dataset needs to move with the times. Collecting and collating data is very difficult to get right but I'm not sure what's wrong with doing a nationwide survey.
Everyone should take part and answer honestly. If that stirs up confusion or a need to rail about trans issues, fill it out anyway and maybe find someone to talk to about it.
It's a dataset.
Any dataset is flawed, you've mentioned hospital data being a representation of the population, but it's only a dataset of people that go to hospital. For instance, twice as many 65+ types end up in hospital than anyone else.
The census is subject to personal bias but that's the same problem asking people questions under any circumstances. Most people will answer fairly accurately, if not we're a nation of BS artists and probably don't deserve fair treatment.
The ED at Middlemore is a good example of census data causing issues. There is a large hidden local population who are not disclosed on the census. In addition there is a lower compliance rate generally because of the socio economic environment. The ED is funded based on the census data and so it is grossly underfunded, to the detriment ironically of the local population.
Haha. Yep.
To open your bathroom window during and after showering, to squeegee the shower walls, to not buy internal gas heaters, to squeegee the condensation on your windows, to minimize drying clothes inside.....
Its not that hard guys.
But of course 50% of us now identify as vulnerable victims.
Being on the right hand side of the intelligence/knowledge bell curve is a blessing, and your place there is almost entirely due to things you didn't influence.
Lots of people are not very intelligent, or don't have great knowledge. You seem to miss this, and think they 'want to be victims'.
Crazy what a lack of exposure can do to perspective
The census is extremely important, but the idiots at Stats NZ have hopelessly compromised it in the eyes of the public with all the sexuality and gender identity bullshit.
Plenty are going to opt out and this will skew the stats that come out. And you can guess it will be in a way that serves progressive left (overstating transgender numbers etc).
I think its a bit bigger issue than that. In everyday life, people can avoid this sort of thing by not being on social media or following outspoken types. But in this case, it is right there in the official form you have to wade through. It could have been dealt with in a much better way by having a box to click that would have opened up all sorts of trans questions. Or a separate sheet of paper on a paper census. And 99.99% of people would have been happy about that. But no, its all explicitly listed.
... I'd be pissed off if they asked religious questions , because I haven't swotted up on it as a subject ...
On the other hand , if they asked about my religious beliefs , no problem ... committed Pastafarian , answering to the one true deity , the Great Flying Spaghetti & Meatballs ... hallowed by thy name , tomato be thy sauce ....
I haven't seen a census form yet since I'm in Hawkes Bay, but I'm guessing the first two options are "male" and "female" possibly qualified with something about birth and identification.
Seems to me roughly 100% of the people outraged, or even just bemused, by the question would only have to read these options before moving on. Anyone reading past those two is probably looking for something to get upset about.
What do you mean? The online census I completed literally had options for "Male, Female, Another Gender". You select "Another Gender" and it opens up a textbox for you to type into.
And then the next question is "What was your sex at birth? Male/Female". That's it.
The race question is an interesting one. My wife and kids ticked the Maori and Pakeha boxes as they do have a great great great great grand parent who was Maori and therefore meet the census definition. I do find it strange that this very small part Maori opens up more Health and Educational funding to them compared to worse off people with no Maori heritage. They would never apply for it though.
If my kids last living Maori relative was from the early 1800s and they have suffered no material hardship in life, why would they be more deserving of a scholarship or medical care than some poor Indian or Pacifica kid? Isn’t there a risk of people choosing to identify as a race based on what they stand to gain from it? Even if that racial element is a tiny part of their overall heritage?
Well, as I alluded to there are outcomes for Maori that are disproportionate based on genetics rather that finances. Maori are slightly more likely to be poor than the average member of society, but they're much more likely to be afflicted by heart disease and some cancers. I guess if one of your Maori relatives gets preferential treatment for one of these ailments you can argue it out with healthcare providers that they're not that Maori or poor and give the treatment to someone else instead.
Isn’t there a risk of people choosing to identify as a race based on what they stand to gain from it? Even if that racial element is a tiny part of their overall heritage?
This is every person to various degrees. In this instance, there's a trade-off being made between a broad brush and much more intensive level of needs assessment.
I agree, I didn’t put it across very clearly. I don’t have a fixed position on this. I ask the questions because I would like to see a fairer NZ, particularly for Maori. But if we assume everything is due to racism when it may be due to historical injustice and present day poverty we may come up with the wrong solutions. Poor white people in Scotland and the North of England were screwed over by rich white people in the South of England during the Industrial Revolution and by the enclosures act. It can be rich vs poor, powerful vs disenfranchised, rather than black or brown vs white.
The way I see it, after 150 years or so, Maori ended up having worse outcomes than general society. Whether you want to ascribe that to deliberate or coincidental systemic discrimination, genetics, or whatever is not for me to say or define. But it'd seem that at least attempting targeted initiatives for a couple of generations is worth a shot if as a country we want to mitigate the exponential issues arising from having subsets of society worse off than most.
If it's just a poverty issue, then the status quo is not benefiting outcomes for Maori as much as everyone else.
not according to this
Apparently superior
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2209/S00157/racial-discrimination-by-…
It's a zero sum game. That's a dollar that hasn't been used on a "colour blind" support programme and may have gone to a middle class "Maori" who didn't need it.
There are numerically more non-Maori than Maori in NZ who live in poverty, but the Left are fixated on "proportionality".
Questionnaires like the Census can often trigger the unexpected.
I recall that story of the regular business trips across the Tasman by one of our leading light, who always filled out the departure form as "Brain Surgeon" when departing and "Builder's Labourer" when he returned.
The self reporting aspect of the census makes it pretty much useless or worse.
We really need a more scientific approach that is objective. Perhaps everyone should go through some sort of comprehensive body scanner/analyzer so we can discard all the "I identify as" subjectivity. Plus micro-chips and telescreens.
Depends if the census needs to be a barometer of mere physical vital statistics.
I'd argue people's sense of identity is a fairly useful metric to track. I suppose we could have a scientist ask someone if they're really really sure they identify with one thing while they have bits of another but the overall result shouldn't vary significantly over the entire population.
I'm not sure why this subject is so contentious. Males and females have physiological tendencies but being a man or a woman is usually a social construct. If there's an increasing tendency towards non traditional identity, knowing the degree that's happening is useful information.
Some of this non hard science information will be valuable. For instance, there's a growing body of data showing a profound change in society away from long term relationships and having children. Some of this is due to females now being more educated than males, so there's a reduction of higher achieving male partners for women to select from. The census data will help reinforce or disprove this theory being relevant to New Zealand.
The changing nature of our population has all manner of future implications, so having more data regarding key social demographics is hardly a bad thing.
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