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Migration hits new high led by growth from China, India and Australia

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Migration hits new high led by growth from China, India and Australia

Population growth from migration surged to a new all time high of 62,477 people in the year to October, the fifteenth month in a row that a new record has been set for the annual gain in net migration.

There was a net gain of 7614 in October, which was also a record for any October month.

The net gain of 62,477 in the year to October came from 120,123 permanent and long arrivals less 57,646 permanent and long term departures.

That compares with net gains of 47,684 in the year to October 2014 and 17,490 in the year to October 2013.

The biggest growth came from India, which provided a net gain of 13,117 in the year to October compared to 9512 in the 12 months to October 2014 and 5215 in the year to October 2013.

That was followed by migrants from China which provided a net gain of 8606 (plus 697 from Hong Kong) in the year to October, the Philippines 4863 and the UK 3672.

There has been a huge turnaround in migration to and from Australia which provided a net gain of 88 in the year to October compared to a net loss of -5311 in the same period last year and a net loss of -23,493 in the year to October 2013.

The migration gain of 88 people from Australia was the first annual gain from that country since 1991.

In the year to October, 30,156 New Zealand citizens arrived back in this country on a long term basis, while 35,345 departed long term, giving a net loss of 5189 New Zealand citizens over the 12 months.

In the same period, 89,967 non-New Zealand citizens arrived long term and 22,301 departed long term, giving a net gain of 67,666 non-NZ citizens for the year.

The increased migrant numbers will put further pressure on Auckland's already stretched housing market, with a net 29,010 new migrants intending to live in Auckland, however the actual number that settle in the city is likely to be much higher because a net 14,874 migrants did not state where they intended to live when they arrived and many of them are also likely to settle in Auckland.

Of the 120,123 people in total who arrived in the year to October, the biggest number (36,760) arrived on work visas, followed 35,656 Australian and NZ citizens, 27,480 on student visas and 13,903 on residency visas.

However many of the people arriving on work and student visas go on to apply for permanent residency once they are here, but will have already been included in the long term arrival numbers.

"Ongoing low departures and strength in arrivals will cause New Zealand's annual population growth rate to reach its highest level since 1974," Westpac senior economist Satish Ranchhod said in a First Impressions newsletter on the figures.

"High population growth is helping to maintain a reasonable rate of GDP growth, but at the same time the preponderance of people in the labour market is keeping wage growth lower than it would otherwise be."

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Fantastic...let more in the more the better. Multi culture the better more enriched Auckland can be...change the flag while doing so.

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Yes pbates........ we need to change the flag to a plain white flag , and each Mayor and each Marae leader around the country will be visited by the leader of the Migrants because they have to sign a new Treaty !

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Yes lets bring auckland to a standstill
Auckland commuters travelling in along the Northern and Western motorways may need to allow more time as traffic slows to a crawl.

The New Zealand Transport agency said there was no specific incident causing the build-up, but said it had noticed morning congestion seemed to be getting earlier over the last few weeks.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11549634

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If the government wants to run high immigration rates they need to also help pay for the required infrastructure. Their anti public transport agenda will not work - there isn't really any free land around to build more roads on. Adding the odd lane to a motorway every so often isn't going to be enough.

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National have already announced funding for the solution, a new $3.5billion tunnel under the harbour, all for general traffic and no nasty 'expensive' railways.

This will allow you to speed under the harbour congestion free to spend much more quality time queuing on the northern, northwestern and southern motorways.

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"The Government' doesn't actually have money, so they can't pay for it, it's the workers of NZ who are paying for it, 70% of whom are not even living in Auckland, but other parts of the country where the money could be better spent. It's not as if Aucklands roads are the whole countries problem, and we have nothing better to do with our money than build more motorways for Jafas. Take the bus or train!

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Take the bus or train!
Haha , train covers a very small part of auckland and unless you work and live on the route it is worthless.
the future plans of where it should run are good and would make it much more user friendly but it will never get built
as for Buses it can take one to two hours to go across auckland once you have changed buses, taken a tiki tour around neighbourhods etc.
the whole public service system in auckland is a joke.
they need to finish the rail
intercity loop
Onehunga to the airport then to manukau loop,
onehunga up the southwestern to connect with new lynn loop,
the new loop out botany connecting back up at mt wellington.
then they can run local neighbourhod buses to the train depots on a single ticket to make worthwhile using

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High population growth is helping to maintain a reasonable rate of GDP growth

Exception of course being wage growth.

It's an immigration ponzi scheme.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11548…

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/290276/would-be-students-lying-t…

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and the chatter amongst immigrants is that auckland is not that friendly, starting to become expensive to live in, pay for work is low.
gee sounds a lot like some of the places they have come from
welcome to becoming an international city auckland

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it's not the pay what's low, it's the high accommodation costs/expensive mortgages.
everything is relative.

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The pay is low.
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Speaking for NZ as a whole - it's a low wage, low tax economy.

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Still, it's a pretty fantastic place to live!

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yes

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dp

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I thought musical chairs was played by removing chairs - not adding more people to the game ?

A little while we were complaining about battery farming practices now we got "Battery Farmed Kiwi" in our over priced apartments - KFC anybody ?

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The government will keep this up for as long as it can, and it seems to be the only way they can think of to keep the country running.

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When you say "The government will keep this up for as long as it can"

What on earth is the government trying to achieve?
What are the objectives?
What is the purpose?

We can all see the consequences

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Stop people from Australia coming into NZ and provide free tickets to the people living on doll to Australia.

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88 people extra back from australia for the year, that blows JK out of the water saying the reason for high immigration was all the returning kiwis
by the way what country is kong kong

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Thanks for spotting.

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Clearly our policy makers are so entirely stupid they can't see that most of those coming are aiming to rort our social services rather than bring anything productive to NZ.

One example from a family member who works at a school:

Young foreign couple (non English speaking) get residency 6 or 7 years ago, have children while in NZ, elderly parents move over too.

Young couple returned to foreign country after children were born. Now the young lady is pregnant again so is back out here with the older children, who have just enrolled in the said school speaking not one word of English, as NZ born their education is completely free. Dad still working off shore.

Next child will be born here too. No NZ tax paid yet all the benefits received, including super for the elderly parents!!

Absolute rort, but perfectly legal.

NZ is being scammed. Our future is being stolen. How stupid are our leaders??

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How do you know there is no NZ tax paid? Are you their accountant?
They must have contributed financially to the tax coffers while they were here before they got residency, and the 6 or 7 years after.
Super for the parents: They need to have lived here for 10 years, first, so judging by what you say about the young couple's residency, can't have happened yet.
Even if the parents received super - do you know how much it is? It's pitifully little.
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Lastly: sounds like they have 4 little tax payers in the making - don't you want somebody who will work to fund your retirement?
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Or would all of the above be okay in your book if they came from an English speaking country?

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Whether the grandparents are getting super yet is just a technicality, at some point they will obtain it without having worked here.

The mother was not working here. BTW we are talking about the most expensive suburb in ChCh, so money is obviously not a problem, but they have decided to "game" the system and obtain free education whereas most of their compatriots at the said school who were also raised off shore are full fee paying international students.

You are right that I do not know if they pay any tax in NZ, but somehow given the circumstances, I very much doubt it is much.

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I reckon DFTBA demolished the points in your post Chris_J.

Do you make up the immigration shock horror stories you tell in these columns?

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I know same situation
friend from another country (wont say country because then you get called a racist) brought in a grammer zone has become a NZ citizen as has her son but not her husband. he visits every three or four months for a week or so then returns to run his businesses (is a multi) she only earns below average Auckland wage.
had to redo her mortgage and at the time kiwibank were doing a special on 50 equity and she told me they refused her because when they crunched the numbers they could not see how she could survive on her income and this was around 2000 so not talking a massive mortgage
so you say so what, well does the tax she pay cover her sons schooling, her and her sons medical expenses, what about the super she will collect or her WFF payment.
very unlikely and what about her husband, does not pay any NZ taxes no not a cent and he gets stopped by customs every trip in and searched.
I don't blame them they are taking advantage of our system and maybe if her son stays and pays his taxes it will even out.
I am sure their are a thousands of these situations where family have been planted in NZ to live a nice life and collect whatever benefit they are entitled to whist the partner, husband, dad earns his fortune away from here and pays no taxes

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Korean, isnt it? Had a neighbor like that for a while. Seems to be a pretty common model up there. Btw, the kid will go to Korea when done with school and uni. They mostly do, as there are so few jobs for highly qualifieds in NZ.

However, it is also a fact that getting a good, well-paying job like the fellow probably has in Korea or wherever is very difficult in NZ. If he did resettle properly - he might end up on the dole and you people would hate him for that, too.

It is of course not ok, if the family is rich but still bagging NZ social security payments. These people do come from cultures where not using opportunities is seen as stupid. It is the NZ govt's responsibility to make sure that social security payments do not get abused.

Btw, if it is any consolation to anyone: they pay a heavy human/social price for their funny arrangements. Incidence of depression among left-behind wives is high, divorce rates, too. Many Asian men start a second family back home while wife No 1 is sitting around in NZ, waiting.

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Thanks for spelling "dole" correctly.

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Correct PP.

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I know of at least 5 examples that replicate Chris J's scenario exactly. This is not unusual.

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No, it's not unusual.
In fact it's more usual than many realise and it's been going on for a long time.
What is notable is the divide between the challengers and supporters on these pages.
Locals versus newcomers
Don't be surprised - DFTBA is a self identified non-local

Newcomers won't see it
But crystal clear to the locals - especially when they are your neighbours right next door
Can't help but see it

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The said family member and other school staff were shocked by this case, (which is how I heard about it). They needed significant extra resources to deal with the lack of English but where limited as the children were born in NZ and it is a very high decile school.

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I don't need convincing - I know it's happening

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How can children be born in New Zealand and not speak english aged 5?

Don't integrate - kept isolated - locked up
Not allowed outside to mix with the local kids

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Born in NZ then returned offshore. Back just in time for school.

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Born in NZ then returned offshore. Back just in time for school.

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Interesting. I don't think I've ever mentioned on this site where I'm from, or where I currently live.

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Your handle gives it away: Down From The Baltic Area.

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LOL
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I take my name from the Green brothers' slogan.

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A good number of your posts have demonstrated an extraordinarily focused and specific and intimate knowledge of the social mores and political and economic workings of one certain northern hemispherical country

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The fact that I may have lived for a number of years in a 'certain northern hemispherical country' doesn't mean I am actually from said country....

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Very good topic, but, people saying it's not unusual must know no much about statistics science, or only willing to believe what they believed.

We, early 30s foreign couple (non- English speaking) got residency 8 or 9 years ago, having one kid, elderly parents moved over TO LOOK AFTER THE KID TEMPORARILY. Started to work locally after graduation 10 years ago, both skilled jobs earning more than average, investment properties, paying taxes what we are liable.Paid health insurances. What benefits we got so far? 14 weeks parental leave? So called free public school in the future or super in the long long future? Maybe fresh air and stunning beach if you would like to count in.

Apparently we are paying taxes more than what we got from the government, so should we stop paying any tax but just simply PAYING the services that the government provided? Who is the majority of migrants? I believe it's me. I'm sorry but as a migrant, i know it more than non-migrants.

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Most people that work full time pay more tax than they receive back in benefits, but remember long term you are going to be receiving super and healthcare benefits that well out way your tax payments at that time, so the net benefit to NZ of having you paying tax now is not as great as you may believe.

Keep working on the English as well. Grammar is just as important as Grammar zones!

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Interesting not saying what you are doing is wrong you are only doing what is allowed and good luck to you
Investment properties, paying taxes what we are liable, so neg geared then and getting a tax rebate
kids not been to the doctor or hospital (thanks God) so not giving their medical espenses partly paid for
not getting a rebate on WFF
at the end of the day we all have to pay and the burdon will fall on our young ones to pay our super when we get old, if there is any mony left in the kitty and our government does not run up a massive debt

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huh, allowed me to do what? Working hard, paying tax and enjoy the life like what you are doing I suppose?

As a company accountant, taxation is not a stranger to me. Unfortunately i have to pay tax for my investment properties but not rebate currently. And, i don't think tax rebate is a kind of benefit

Kid is fully insuranced by Sxxxx if something bad happens. GP visiting? yes but how much?

WFF? The income limits are just way to low for a WORKING family. Also, I don't think it's a kind of benefit.

At the end of the day (say 20-30 years), do you really think we can rely on the super?

My point is that overall I believe most hard working people (migrant or non-migrant) like me and you are contributing to this country rather than 'stealing' benefits. Of course there are a few of people (migrant or non-migrant) are 'benefiting', but you will be surprised if you see the statistics report one day.

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The growth in GDP is pointless if it is not complemented by growth in GDP per capita.

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yes and no. Yes that 's correct per capita is the standard IMHO. Except we are on a finite planet so we cant grow for ever.

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Where are we going to put these people?

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Depends where you come from to many Auckland is empty from discussions I have had. For those of us born and raised here not all the changes have been good and the unplanned swamping of the place is the worst part of that. There should have Been infrastructure put in place before the doors were swing wide open

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In my properties keywest.

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Trailer park?

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Would be nice to get more educated people from Europe rather than....

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And South Americans , Canadians. Scandinavians, Italians, Greeks, French
Would be nice to really make NZ diverse itself of a couple of main groups

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..ha ha I'm not sure how a Canadian from Vancover these days might differ from some of our largest sources of migrants.....:)

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Ditto Toronto

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I know of a Romanian family who migrated to Toronto 40 years ago and are now getting out - the place is over-run - They are going back to (of all places) Romania

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Romania is a great place. And it has some remnants of culture, identity, community. Selling up the overvalued shed in Toronto to some Chinese communists on the run from a corruption crack-down and going home to live like kings in Romania sounds like a pretty good idea. Best of luck to them.

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Once Europe has been totally destabilized by its irrational and irresponsible politicians and media, they will be coming in droves, dont worry. Just make sure NZ has not turned into a terrorist outlet until then, like Australia. However, looking at international money man John Key ... the terrorist-free attribute for NZ will probably soon be lost, thanks to do-gooding policies aping all the failed nonsense that has been done overseas.

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..by the do gooding policies overseas I wonder if you mean bombing the c##p out of a country to try and force regime change (worked a treat in Iraq ), make it completley unliveable and then wonder why the heck everyone is trying to get out? I'd agree re coming in droves....this is sure to keep the migration pump running flat out, though I'd rather we cut back on $2 shop and booze outlet owners and replace them with more needy people.

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No, I mean spending 50 million NZD on inviting 750 so-called Syrian refugees (current count of "Syrian refugees" participating in the Paris massacre stands at 3 - a whole IS strike team came through Greece in early October) while about the same number of Kiwi kids are homeless in Auckland alone.

I guess you dont like Kiwi kids but rather prefer ... umm, Syrian refugees.

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The ruthlessness with which "Western" governments are pursuing their open door policies are unprecedented. Democratic legitimation or good government serving the common good (where 'common' means a nation, not the whole world) do not matter any more. We, the people, have become replacable and we are being replaced by the people who are supposed to represent our interests. And to top it off, it runs as a "human rights" false flag operation.

Here a revealing BBC article about the agenda of the "global elite". Rabid wolves in sheep's clothing: EU should 'undermine national homogeneity' says UN migration chief http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395

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