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US factory activity up; Canadian factory activity up; Canada moves to help FHBs; typhoon douses Shanghai; bets on 50bps Fed cut grow; UST 10yr 3.63%; gold and oil up again, NZ$1 = 61.9; TWI = 69.5

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US factory activity up; Canadian factory activity up; Canada moves to help FHBs; typhoon douses Shanghai; bets on 50bps Fed cut grow; UST 10yr 3.63%; gold and oil up again, NZ$1 = 61.9; TWI = 69.5

Here's our summary of key economic events overnight that affect New Zealand with news financial markets are now expecting a -50 bps rate cut from the US Fed later in the week.

But first up in the US, the next regional factory survey came in surprisingly strong. The NY Empire State Manufacturing Index unexpectedly jumped sharply in September to its highest since April 2022. A key driver was new order growth.

Also coming in better than expected was Canada's July manufacturing levels. Oil and coal production drove that. Also probably helping was an unexpected rise in Canadian vehicle sales. But that monthly gain only limited the retreat from a year ago to -1.1%.

As regular readers will know, Canada has had longstanding housing affordability issues. Today it loosened some eligibility rules for first-home buyer access to 'insured mortgages'. But this is a demand side move. So these changes are likely to have the unintended consequence of adding more competitive pressures to already stressed markets.

In China, the typhoon that hit Shanghai yesterday has come at a tricky time for China and its financial capital. Delayed and cancelled transport connections will have undermined their Mid Autumn Festival holiday spending in the region.

In Australia, the ASX200 closed at an all-time high yesterday, fueled by bets the US Fed would cut interest rates by -50 bps on Thursday (NZT).

But the same financial market 'bets' are pushing the USD lower, along with benchmark interest rates. Falling rates are having a global effect, except perhaps in Australia where there is widespread acknowledgement that the RBA hasn't tamed inflation yet. But they may be able to hold on with unchanged policy rates as the gap with others widens over the next few months.

Interestingly, financial markets are also betting heavier that the next RBNZ rate change, on October 9, will also be -50 bps.

The UST 10yr yield is now at just on 3.63% and down -3 bps from this time yesterday. The key 2-10 yield curve is still +7 bps positive. Their 1-5 curve inversion is less at -57 bps. And their 3 mth-10yr curve inversion is still at -138 bps. The Australian 10 year bond yield starts today at 3.85% and up +3 bps. The China 10 year bond rate is at 2.07%, and unchanged. The NZ Government 10 year bond rate is now just on 4.10% and down 0-3 bps from yesterday.

Wall Street has opened its week with the S&P500 unchanged and much more tame than the earlier futures trading suggested. Overnight, European markets were similarly subdued with Lindon up +0.1% but Frankfurt down -.04%. Tokyo ended its Monday trade down -0.7%. Shanghai did trade due to the typhoon, and will be closed again today for a public holiday. Hong Kong was up +0.3%. Singapore was up +0.2%. The ASX200 ended its Monday trade up +0.3% but the NZX50 took a hit of -1.0%, probably related to the impacts expected from the outsized AIA capital raising.

The price of gold will start today at US$2581/oz and up +US$3 from yesterday's high.

Oil prices are up +US$2 at US$70.50/bbl in the US while the international Brent price is now just under US$73/bbl.

The Kiwi dollar starts today at 61.9 USc and up +30 bps from yesterday. Against the Aussie we unchanged at 91.8 AUc. Against the euro we are up +10 bps at 55.7 euro cents. That all means our TWI-5 starts today at 69.5, and up +20 bps from yesterday.

The bitcoin price starts today at US$57,987 and down -3.0% from this time yesterday. Volatility over the past 24 hours has been moderate at just on +/- 2.3%.

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50 bps cuts are normally saved for emergencies, is the US economy that bad at the moment 

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Agreed, 50 BPS is way too much. Unlikely here too, RBNZ is going to want to do one more drop and then hold-off until the new year to see if our indicators start going backwards. I don't think they will (does anyone feel like going out and splurging this Xmas?) but it seems like something you'd be happy putting money on. 

You'd have to see some pretty big drops in the markets which are still being kept reasonably bouyant by cheap energy. Could change quickly but at the moment there's no sudden pain on the horizon to justify a 0.5% drop. 

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If the FED drop 50 bps then RBNZ will follow

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I agree, I just don't think the Fed will. Too close to the election for that kind of thing anyway.

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That's exactly why they could.

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Agreed, 50 BPS is way too much

US Senators have sent a letter to Powell asking for a 75bps cut. That's 50% higher than your 'way too much.'

https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/warren_hickenlooper_whiteho…

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We're looking at a synchronized global recession, and the big rate hikes are just as likely to serve the role of stimulus ammo moreso than being a solely inflationary related move. 

Hard to say if this is the point bad enough to spam the 50 basis points button yet.

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Your expecting rate jumps?  In Russia maybe...

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I was meaning the hikes to get us where we currently are. They have hundreds of points to chop.

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Getting Harris elected is mission critical for the deep state - so 50bp is a given. I said what I said.

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We don't often agree, but there we do.

Trump is a narcissistic, rambling/decaying maverick, but folk have been hammered by the neocons to the point they don't have faith. So a maverick - any maverick - is worth a crack. Same went/goes for Moseley, Mussolini, Farage, Le Pen...   

But Trump sort-of gets the end of growth; the fact that the hegemony is in decline, the inability to repay debt, and the need to reduce population. It's incoherent, but it's sort-of there. And that is anathema to the deep-state (neocons, Chicago-school, Cato etc) who keep putting up front-puppets like Clinton/Harris. 

Interesting times. In terms of 5-Eyes, we may regret not placing an each-way bet...

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It's less about policy and more about continuity. KH is continuity of Ukraine war, of open borders, of big state spending, while Trump is a maverick threat to the unelected bureaucrats the really run the nation. There is a reason the media are so anti-Trump and so pro-KH. If these were assasination attempts on KH we would be awash with hyperbole on far right, racist, mysogenist extremists.

I don't like Trump, but I feel like we need him more than Harris.

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This KH fully agrees with your views on that KH.

And yes Trumpy is dangerous, but  I can see what he offers to folk who are being screwed by the more sedate inside crowd now in control.

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You know trump's solution to Ukraine don't you?

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Trump is was bigger on state spending than those before him. Increase spending and cut taxes, what could go wrong?

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While largely agreeing with you did you think Obama and Clinton were front-puppets?

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Both Clintons are of the Elite, both qualify as if nor puppets, part-takers. 

Obama is a little more difficult to classify - remember that the Elite would have been backing Clinton, and expecting a coast-in. So no, he's probably the odd one out. Spent most of his time swimming in treacle, though - and in the end, didn't do the honesty thing (as FDR did, for instance). 

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I didn't at the time, but I was a lot more naiive then. I do think things were a little more innocent pre-2016.

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So, Kiwis are jumping the ditch to Aussie, to escape the cost of living crisis.

Turns out, Aussies are ditching Aussie to escape the cost of living crisis, and heading to.....

South East Asia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDeTwgvkNCw&ab_channel=Mitch%27sOnTheHo…

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It’s all relative I guess. 
NZ must be the worst in the western world, however, in terms of COL

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Must be. Life couldn't possibly be any worse than wherever one is. Definitely not baked into the model.

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Oh come on

Everyone who is even mildly worldly, and isn’t consumed by naff Kiwi exceptionalism, knows how pricey most things are here.

And then on top of that we have had (western) world leading inflation.

 

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I dunno man, I move around the world a lot, and it's super rare to rock up to any other developed Western country and be amazed by how much cheaper anything is.

Deli meats and fancy cheeses in Europe maybe. Oh, and Tobacco, but only because they don't tax the arse off it there.

Naivety is thinking our situation is in any way unique.

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How about here compared to Aus, North America? 
how about our mortgage rates? My brother in Sweden has been whingeing with rates of around 5%

Fuel is much cheaper in Aus and North America. It’s not in Europe, but they have far better public transport. And usually cheaper. I pay $11 each day for a round train trip now

don’t we still have ‘world leading’ (lol) house price to income ratios?

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I've been to the States on and off for quite some time (have family there). In my younger years, I felt it was quite a bit cheaper, especially consumer items. My last couple of trips, I've gone to the supermarket and everything's about the same in USD as it is in NZ in NZD. Even things like clothing and electronics aren't much cheaper, we live in a world now of global pricing in many categories. Maybe if you went to a depressed backwood in the rust belt it'd be cheaper.

Interest rates are a floating amount so hard to bring that into consideration. Fuel also a difficult comparison given the variances in taxation, gas is a bit cheaper in the states, but have an accident and get seriously injured, and if you don't have private health insurance, you could be stuffed.

We likely aren't the cheapest in much, but your point is around the margins, and mines that the dynamics of the system at play is fairly consistent anywhere you go.

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Things like clothing, sure

But there’s still some pretty big differences on key cost of living factors such as fuel, interest rates, housing costs. I still think our groceries are quite pricey

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I guess maybe we differ on how big "pretty big" is. I was told Croatia was a pretty cheap country for housing, I get there, and the square meter cost is higher, unless you want to live in an emptying small town in the boonies.

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Beats having glyphosate in our air, rivers, drinking water, and food, and a rutheless pharmaceutical sector out to cure all the associated ailments that come with this. 

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Dynamics of the system fairly consistent? Yeah, nah

We lack economies of scale. BIG issue

As one example, look at build costs in North America and Aus, compared to here….

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If you want to live in a large popular city in any of these places, unless you're a super high income earner, they're set up to extract almost every dollar you earn, just to stand still.

Hence, the people there, complain about the exact same things people complain about here.

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Did you load up on the contrarian porridge this morning?

How you can deny a massive structural difference such as economies of scale is beyond me 

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You keep using words like "big" and "massive" to define things which are often only single digit percentage points of variation.

So what, you're saying other developed nations are affordable, the locals are lying and it's economies of scale that have tipped us uniquely over the edge?

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You are putting words in my mouth! 

- I didn’t say other developed nations are ‘affordable’. But I am saying they are more affordable than NZ on many counts. I think that’s undeniable, not just anecdotally but in terms of official data. And no, I am not going to waste any time providing that data, it’s all well established. Even if I do provide, you will find a way to argue against it, for the sake of it. 

- no I didn’t say it’s lack of economies of scale that have tipped us over the edge. But it’s a big factor in the costs of many things. 100%. I don’t think thats debatable at all. Linked to the lack of economies of scale is the lack of competition 

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Work on your comprehension! 
I said the structural differences are big, not the price variations.

Nonetheless, some price variations are certainly big indeed. 

Anyway, I can’t be bothered trying to have a ‘discussion’ with a pathological contrarian who never gives anything in any discussion, and is always ‘right’….

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Some places are slightly less unaffordable. How's that for you.

Perhaps you need to seek out a safe space where everything you say can be blindly validated.

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House Mouse, before you envoke Godwins law it's probably best that you call it a day.

If you think the grass is really that much greener and NZ is the worst in the developed world which is what you're saying then I believe you're sadly mistaken.  There is mass migration the world over as everyone are facing the same issues and looking to improve ones lot.  Those that are 'ahead' or are well fed and watered will remain ahead of the curve for the time being but rest assured everyone is feeling it.  The world has changed in terms of cost which is what Painter has stated.   

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Hello mate. You see that? HouseMouse/HelloMate. Anyway, 2 questions for you.

 

1. Why are you living in New Zealand?

 

2. Have you got any “good news” stories?

 

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Economies of scale are often llusory.

one example:  Our big monopolies are not efficient.  They are not efficient.  They make money by controlling the market.

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So why was housing 3x back pre 80's....did we somehow loose our "economies' of scale" ?

Finalisation of everything maybe the better answer..

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Growing global demand due to population bulge and globalisation increasing accessibility, more abundant and easily accessible resources to draw down from cheaply (e.g native timber for state housing) as well as to pilfer form less developed nations, and the war was not long gone so people were more focused on helping each other and the community, instead of screwing each other over as in todays world is more prevalent. Add less regulation and consumerism, or less things to spend on. 

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We drank from 'the problem is our population is too small' bottle.

Some here think another swig is the answer.

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Mortgage interest rates for 1st mge (up to 60% valuation) were 15% when I bought my first home in 1978. 2nd & 3rd mortgages were higher.

Not every poor single income family on low wages qualified for HC, PO or State advances loans 

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Precisely why I travel to cheaper countries. The cost of more pricey countries isn't worth the tourism to me, better to immerse yourself in a cheaper place you know near-nothing about and take in everything it has to offer. So many pleasant surprises this way. 

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It's nice to see as much as you're able, but I'd agree. I can go to California or Munich for 10 days, or Asia or Sth America for a month or two.

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Precisely, Colombia is such a gem. The people, the level of colour people wear, the animals, the dancing, the food, and the distinctive regional accents and differences that they hold pride in. Same for Mexico.

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When is the rbnz decision due?

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Thanks, it sounded like it was within the next week somehow.

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There was a point where 2 - 10 year rates drove the hikes ahead of RBNZ, maybe we are heading back to those days with if we see rapid movement in swaps. 

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"In Australia, the ASX200 closed at an all-time high yesterday, fueled by bets the US Fed would cut interest rates by -50 bps on Thursday (NZT)."

Damn... and my Milford funds Australian fund is down 1.5% since April.  Did they buy Australian NFTs or something?

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Damn... and my Milford funds Australian fund is down 1.5% since April.  Did they buy Australian NFTs or something?

50% of Aussie stocks' market are concentrated in the top 10 - the miners and the bankers. BHP and Forty having howlers for the obvious reasons. Down up to 40%.

But the banks are flying You're looking at 20%+ gains on CBA, ANZ. The Ponzi reigns supreme.  

The millionaires factory Macquarie quite similar to the banks.  

Interesting to see what sectors are driving the ASX.

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Well I'll need to check what they are investing in.  I like a good Ponzi

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Canada moves to help FHBs

No, Canada moves to keep house prices up.

Aus did the same, call out these schemes for what they are. Nothing to do with helping FHB's.

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They help some FHBs, but they also serve to push prices up.

The actual cost to generate a new house needs slashing. Which can be done, but is up against a lot of existing self interest.

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Yup, the Greens have a lot to say about landlords and housing costs at a governmental level but their Wellington councillors seem to have extremely flakey email services and keep missing the memo.

At a low-enough level, it's all self interest, no matter what hat it's wearing. 

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Would be interesting to see the split (for an average house) between land, build costs, council & compliance costs over the last 70 years. 

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It would be....but we would also have to factor in the predominant (and changing) drivers of 'growth' over the same period.

Growth in the early period of that timeframe was driven by output...the latter half not so.

Something has to underwrite it.

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Why stop at 50, why not 100bps? If you're willing to ignore the data anything is possible.

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.... "Canada's July manufacturing levels. Oil and coal production drove that."....

What? Never new Canadian coal was that big to share a seat  in the Canadian economy. Here we have the Labour and Greens trying to shoot down anything that sniffs of coal except for Huntly of course as that would have required rolling blackouts.  Load shedding is a nicer phrase.

At least Shane Jones has his head if not his heart in the right place. I'll be surprised if Fonterra can remain economically competitive if they have to stop using coal. ETS may force them to use electricity. This will reduce their competitiveness in the world for their dairy products and slowly destroy probably the biggest exporter in the country impacting our balance of payment deficits and its attendant consequences.

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"Inland Revenue giving thousands of taxpayers' details to social media platforms for ad campaigns"

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/527419/inland-revenue-giving-thousa… 

The Taxpayers union have now created a submission tool to request IRD to advise if they have provided your info to social media companies 

https://www.irdleak.nz/

 

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The more I think about this, the more outrageous it is. 

Firstly, there appears to be no evidence (supplied by the IRD) that this type of targeted advertising has raised any incremental tax revenue.

Secondly, you pay a premium to the ad networks for this type of targeting.

Thirdly, unless the IRD is internally managing its own 'custom audience' data and uploading it to Meta, Google etc they are quite possibly sharing it with private agencies/contractors running the ads (let's be real, it will be the most expensive agencies they use)

 

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"What could possibly go wrong?"

"Nothing to see here..."

Etc

 

Its absolutely incredible that anyone in IRD thought this was ok.

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The predictable RBNZ will make the wrong move again,whatever that may be. Fortunately,not every wealthy country has an idiot like we do at the RBNZ,turning their country into a socialist cesspit.

Why is he still there? 

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