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Dairy prices little-changed; US leading indicators sag; US bank property exposures worry; Canadian CPI lower; Chinese rate cut gets lukewarm response; UST 10yr 4.26%; gold firm and oil lower; NZ$1 = 61.7 USc; TWI-5 = 71.1

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Dairy prices little-changed; US leading indicators sag; US bank property exposures worry; Canadian CPI lower; Chinese rate cut gets lukewarm response; UST 10yr 4.26%; gold firm and oil lower; NZ$1 = 61.7 USc; TWI-5 = 71.1

Here's our summary of key economic events overnight that affect New Zealand, with news both the US and China are both back from holiday breaks - to lackluster prospects.

But first, the GDT dairy auction earlier today resulted in little overall change (+0.5%), although the strengthening NZD did push the result in local currently lower (-1.1%). This auction did record a big drop in the cheddar cheese price (-7.6%) but a good rise for mozzarella (+5.3%). SMP also rose (+1.3%) but the key WMP price fell (-1.8%. Today's result does not interrupt the general trend of rising prices that started in September last year and is probably an inconsequential hesitation at this point. No farm gate payout prices are likely to be affected by this, even if it is the weakest result since November.

In the US, the Conference Board's index of leading indicators slipped again in January. It has been slipping slightly for a while, but this update was the least in the series.

The FT is pointing out that large banks have more commercial property bad debt than they have reserves for it. The steady discounting of commercial property values as interest rates rise is catching out even the majors now. Their analysis shows that the average reserves at JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley have fallen from US$1.60 to 90 cents for every dollar of commercial real estate debt on which a borrower is at least 30 days late, according to filings to the FDIC.

Canadian CPI inflation fell to 2.9% in January from 3.4% in December. The Bank of Canada has a formal target to keep inflation at the 2% midpoint of a 1% to 3% range. The move lower is seen as a positive development in their battle against inflation.

The Chinese central bank has surprised markets somewhat with its Loan Prime Rate moves. They didn't change their one year rate, holding it at 3.45% when a -15 bps cut was expected. But they did cut their 5 year LPR by -25 bps when a -15 bps cut was expected. That is the biggest cut they have ever made to this rate. The five year rate underpins their home loan market. The one year rate is more of a reference for other consumer and business lending. These changes show that Beijing's worries about their failing property sector are front-of-mind. However, despite its boldness the moves met with yawns in the market.

Prices for steel reinforcing bar (rebar) fell in China yesterday, and sharply to their lowest level of the year. These buyers have not returned from their New Year break in a positive mood, it seems. The retreat isn't overly large but it does essentially wipe out the gains built up in the expectation of major new infrastructure stimulus.

The UST 10yr yield starts today at 4.26% and down -7 bps from this time yesterday. The key 2-10 yield curve inversion is unchanged at -33 bps. And their 1-5 curve inversion is still at -70 bps. But their 3 mth-10yr curve inversion has deepened to -114 bps. The Australian 10 year bond yield is now at 4.16% and down -4 bps. The China 10 year bond rate is soft at 2.44%. The NZ Government 10 year bond rate is down -3 bps at 4.92%.

Wall Street has returned from its long weekend holiday with the S&P500 down -0.9%, mainly on tech company concerns. Overnight London and Frankfurt fell marginally, but Paris was up +0.3%. Yesterday Tokyo ended its Tuesday session down -0.3%. But Hong Kong rose +0.6% in their Tuesday trade while Shanghai rose +0.4%, both with late session surges which look suspiciously like home team interventions. The ASX200 ended Tuesday down a minor -0.1% while the NZX50 fell -0.7% on more soft earnings updates.

The price of gold will start today up another +US$11/oz from yesterday at US$2027/oz.

Oil prices are -US$1.50/bbl lower at just on US$77/bbl in the US while the international Brent price is down a bit less to US$81.50/bbl.

The Kiwi dollar starts today at just on 61.7 USc and up +¼c and its highest in more than a month. Against the Aussie we are also firmer at 94.2 AUc. Against the euro we are still at 57.1 euro cents. That all means our TWI-5 starts today at just on 71.1 and up another +20 bps from yesterday.

The bitcoin price starts today at US$51,608 and down a minor -0.6% from this time yesterday. Volatility over the past 24 hours has been modest at +/- 1.8%.

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Former New York Fed president Dudley advances the idea that the US neutral rate is higher. This would mean the Fed's current monetary policy stance is NOT that restrictive. ''Large and chronic fiscal deficits'' main reason behind!   Link

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I'm expecting the RBNZ to come to a similar conclusion and raise the 'neutral rate' from 2.75% to 3.00%. 

They may even use that guesswork as justification to conclude they need a higher OCR to maintain the contractionary nature of the setting. (Idiots if they do. But that never stopped them dropping to 0.25% either.)

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Kiwi is highest in a month and oil is $77 a barrell yet diesel and petrol prices higher in AKL - whats the skinny?

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No labour government keeping an eye on prices? National would never criticise the “free market “. 

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That market ain't "free" Jimbo.  Show me a government, Labs or Nats, who changed such a thing.

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Labour did call them out a few times. The threat of the government doing something about it is much better than nothing. I know someone who works in a self regulated industry and the continuous threat of regulation is always in their thinking, they would behave a lot differently if they knew the government would leave them alone. 

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Maybe National could speak to the Oil Lobbyist's in the beehive over a free flat white.., I am sure they are there daily making sure everything is running smoothly, enjoying a smoke out the back.

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Something something reserves, something something spot prices, something something excuses.

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Don’t lower prices usually take 2-3 days to work through? That’s my observation. I am usually able to base fuel purchases on that presumption 

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Yeah but higher prices seem to come through instantly.. funny that

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Don’t lower prices usually take about 3 days to work through? That’s my observation. I am usually able to base fuel purchases on that presumption 

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It's pretty annoying that in order to get 'fairer priced' fuel you now need to have an app for the station... hand over all your info for an amazing 6-10 cents off...

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Unfairly annoying. Regressive too, the smart people who have all the money also get all the discounts. 

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Anyone with decent credit can open a Farmsource account and get 16 cents off at Mobil anytime, no limits. 12 cents at a bunch of other places too. No stupid app required.

Edit: sorry over leveraged home buyers, you are likely not eligible to save money.

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How we can quibble about a few cents here and there when the Aussie Banking and Grocery cartels are takings us for $Thousands a year each?  Priorities surely?

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We are the dumb-asses who sold all our stuff, in some cases quite cheap

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The FT is pointing out that large banks have more commercial property bad debt than they have reserves for it.

This is a very serious problem, and as I've stipulated before, the most likely source of significant trouble in the USA.  Whilst it's true that working from home is part of the problem, the main issue is higher interest rates, because commercial properties are valued mostly by their yields. As interest rates go up, so do the commercail propery yields, thus driving their values down.

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Morena. How are you on this fine morning? You still guaranteeing OCR cuts for 2024?

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I’m good thank you

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Bonjour Frank, I have never guaranteed OCR cuts for 2024, please stop making stuff up.  But I have predicted since August 2023 that I expect the first OCR cut in August 2024, I still believe this will be the case.

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Valued beyond their yield. Where have we heard that before....oh yeah New Zuland

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Put a line through commercial..... PROPERTY is valued by its yield as an investment plus potential subdivision or capital gains.

But the investors have been sold a leveraged super plan.... unles you can live on $380 a week...

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Should these posts come with trigger warnings - just asking..............

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Safety and liquidity is the primary concern of the bond market making community.

In the domestic rates market, as expected, NZDM launched the syndication of a new 30-year bond with price guidance for the 2054 nominal bond -1bps to +6 bps over the 2051 bond. The overnight update showed very strong demand, with a firm order book of around $16.5b for the $2b-$4b issue and price guidance narrowed to 0bps to +2bps. Link

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When is the next OCR review? Considering their only job is to twiddle one lever, they sure demand a long holiday. 

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28th.

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The large element which we use alot, on the stove has blown. But the LL says he won't fix as its too expensive for just repairing one. He told us to wait until another one needs fixing. I can see his point but dont think that's fair or legal. Being a tenant sucks

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It is not. You should give him 2 week notice to remediate.

Or ask him to lower the rent to compensate for inconvenience.

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But you might find your next rent review isn't great. They can't lose.

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Would have though it was elementary...

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PDK coming in hot :D

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Its nothing to get "steamed up" about 

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I'd be pushing to get it fixed. In 10 years of renting I only ever had one landlord who was difficult at actioning repairs (and that was at a total dive student flat that cost next to nothing) but all others were good at sorting repairs to things like hot water etc. 

You're entitled to get it fixed, so take up that entitlement.

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Break another one with the sledgehammer you use to tenderise chuck steak, job done.

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Do what a homeowner would do. Work out how to replace it yourself. 

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Winston - on the money as he often is

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/02/tributes-flow-for-forme…

" Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters wished Robertson well but also criticised his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic.   

"The second time around in '21 and onwards, the handling of that was a disaster. And that's why as time goes by the inquiry will find that out, and the level of indebtedness was massive, unjustified," Peters said.   

He also joked that Robertson was well suited to Otago University because of the institution's debt.  

"I think he's well-fitted, he's going off to a university that's $100 million in debt, having left this country in debt, so he's well-practised as to what he should be able to do now. But I wish him all the best," Peters said

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Easy to criticize  tho isn't it. we can all do that but he has been in a position to change things and come through with some of those promises. Ask him what he's got done and he starts banging on about the winebox enquiry

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well yes it is easy to criticise ....

https://tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/government-debt

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Change to the 25 year view and you will see that National / English did about the same after the GFC. 

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Indeed - they did however pour a lot of money into Chch earthquake rebuild .... whereas Labour poured it into ?? Expired Rat tests?

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The same thing National said they would have done - Covid wage subsidies.

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Hmmm ... Thats a hell of lot of wage subsidy??? Are you sure

All an ill advised rort .. the whole covid fiasco was a mismanged disaster ... yes i know he saved BILLIONS of lives & businesses - some modeller confirmed this. Thats why we are such are a good position now

(ps National Labour - i dont care - its the one at the wheel who is accountable ... and his largese and reckless spending on pretty much zilch infrastructure is shocking

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Ah did they?  In 2015 the RBNZ estimated the total cost of the rebuild to be $40 billion.  By September 2015 $26b had been paid out by insurers.  So at most, $14b for the rebuild if insurers just stopped paying out.......

The Reserve Bank currently estimates the total construction cost of the rebuild to be about $40 billion (in 2015 dollars), comprised of slightly more than $16 billion each for residential and commercial construction and around $7 billion for infrastructure.

Five years after the damaging February 2011 earthquake, insurance claims have yet to be fully settled. As at 30 September 2015, insurers had paid out $26 billion,

https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/-/media/project/sites/rbnz/files/publications/…

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Those are some very expensive rats.

The announcement comes as Woolworths released its latest profit results, which showed a $781 million statutory loss as the company booked a $NZ1.6 billion ($1.5 billion) writedown in the value of its New Zealand grocery business

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-21/woolworths-brad-banducci-retires-announcement/103490636

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My god how can you operate in a duopoly position and loose so much money.      I hate Countdown and I am pretty sure I will not like the new Woolworths.

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You say "we THINK we won't be able to earn as much going forward" and have your cosy "Auditor" agree with you.  Then boom you can write off the asset value and avoid the depreciation you should be paying.  Which "surprisingly" will lead to a "boom" in profitability leading to an increase in the asset value that you then sell to another of your companies returning the capital to the shareholder and having imaginary debt to write off against your profit.

Opps, inny-thoughts.

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they didn't loose money - as the company booked a $NZ1.6 billion ($1.5 billion) writedown in the value of its New Zealand grocery business

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Georgia DA Fani Willis smacks the Trump attorney right between his eyes where he deserves it. How the hell can you compare the  situation with Donald Duck Trumps actions 

https://youtu.be/kPyKe0Q7fbM?si=Q4J8yBsUi73l8XuN

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And this... republican case against Hunter Biden built on outright fabrication and lies

https://youtu.be/lmLmmNs69c8?si=6E960GSKtRcR6zks

This is only a small insight to what life could be like if trump re-elected. We've seen what he is capable of, even more so now

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What expertise did Hunter Biden have that required him to be in Ukraine, around the time Victoria Nuland was stirring up proxies? 

Simple question. 

They - and the Clintons, the Bush's, and, and, and - are all part of the in-pirate Elite. Don't rock the boat, keep the gravy coming, tell the plebs to be meek and they'll inherit (oh, but in the next life). Trump is an out-pirate; Elite but not of the Elite. Out-pirates strive to be in-pirates; something to do with sexual-appeal, deep down. The disgruntled disenfranchised tend to get to a point where they cease believing the peddled narrative, and look to alt voices. 

Those who position themselves in that space, get votes. Both 'sides' attempt to smear the other; neither are 'clean'. So taking sides is fraught... I regard Hunter Biden as untalented, untrustworthy and unimpressive. I regard Trump as randomly talented, randomly impressive - and also untrustworthy...

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GDP and tax take numbers for next quarter are going to be atrocious the way the government is mishandling things. Unemployment is skyrocketing (check out linkedin for how many people have "OpenToWork" in their profile) and government revenue is going to fall off a cliff.  I suspect National are about to turn our mild recession into a depression by not understanding counter-cyclical government spending. But when you have a English Lit major as a finance minister who think balancing your families budget is same-same as running a country and a property investor leader who thinks rating agency scorecards don't matter and that those on a benefit are there because of choice... I aren't holding out much hope for a turn around any time soon.

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Starting to get a feeling that the coalition partners are waiting for their chance to take (more) control. Luxon is a genuine idiot as a politician. He may have been a decent CEO but those essential instincts of the politician are absent. Looking at the rest of his party you’d struggle to find anyone vaguely capable of a leadership challenge so watch for Winston and Seymour to increasingly set the tone. God help us.

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Mark Mitchell seems to be contradicting him publicly a lot. Last night on the news was about pseudoephedrine and whether he had talked to Seymour about it. But there have been a few other times when he has done similar. Luxon will have to get tough soon or it will start to unpick .

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Actually Luxon looks better every day.  Polls agree.

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The two things aren't incompatible. Luxon has a senior minister who is contradicting him in public. Luxon can also be popular with the public. But that sort of friction can't continue for long. 

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How friends in USA, This election is all about illegal immigration.....

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Republicans playing charades, and other games 

https://youtube.com/shorts/tXG6N8q6zO8?si=H0m8SPEXtzYRG9HI

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You are delusional if you think the economic mess unwinding is that of  this govt. Its decades of stupidity - just look at the infrastructure ..and so on.

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So National didn't scrap 3 waters, scrap the ferry upgrade, scrap major infrastructure projects all around the country (in favour of restarting RONS), introduce benefit sanctions, ask almost all government agencies to reduce headcount and government spending by ~8% etc etc? Man, I must have a good imagination, I swear thats what they had in their 100 day plan.

The military have been asked to reduce spending by by 6.5% when we can't even man our 2 frigates, nor our patrol vessels. Plenty of blame to go around (Labour underfunded the military hugely) but a further reduction will see us barely able to function.  Again, government spending should be counter-cyclical, if we are going into a downturn, its time for the government to increase spending, not decrease. It threatens an economic doom loop if they don't.

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