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David Seymour wants New Zealand to copy Trump and withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord

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David Seymour wants New Zealand to copy Trump and withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord
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One of Donald Trump’s first acts as president was withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accord, leaving the United States alongside Iran, Libya, and Yemen as the only non-members.

For the past decade, there has been a global consensus that climate change is occurring and must be mitigated where possible. But some activists are pushing for countries to give up and focus solely on surviving in the hotter climate.

David Seymour, leader of the Act Party and soon-to-be Deputy Prime Minister, told Newstalk ZB the New Zealand Government should consider withdrawing from the Paris accord.

And when asked about the newly announced 2035 emission reduction target, Seymour said he supported it, but only because it was a Cabinet obligation.

“There's a wider question of whether the government of New Zealand should be committed to the Paris accord when half the world appears to be pulling out of it anyway,” he said. 

The Act Party opposed the accord in 2016, when it was still a one-MP party, and intended to vote against the Zero Carbon Act but missed the final vote.

What was once a fringe view, supported by just one MP, may be gaining traction. The Act Party secured 8.6% of all votes in 2023 and NZ First, which also campaigned against some climate policies, won 6%.

Polls show the public is concerned about climate change and believes the government is not doing enough to mitigate risks. But these concerns have fallen behind more immediate economic problems, at least in the regular IPSOS issues monitor.

The Act Party and two close allies, the Taxpayers’ Union and Federated Farmers, have all voiced opposition to the Government’s new target and the Paris Climate Accord itself. 

Jordan Williams, a political campaigner and executive director of the Taxpayers’ Union, said in a press release that the announcement had “harpooned” the Government’s growth plans. 

“[Climate Minister Simon] Watts and his Cabinet colleagues are not going to be around in a decade to have to pay the bill, but are doubling down on Paris at the very time our trading partners are pulling back,” he wrote.

It is not particularly true that New Zealand’s trading partners are pulling back on their Paris commitments, nor that the Government is “doubling down” in any meaningful way. 

China has been building renewable energy and aims to begin reducing emissions before 2030. Australia, the United Kingdom, and the European Union have all maintained or strengthened their targets in recent years. 

New Zealand’s new target has been described as “shockingly unambitious” as it does not even maintain the current rate of emissions reductions. The Climate Change Commission recommended a 66% cut but the Government opted for 51%.

Even that goal was too much for Federated Farmers, which argued in a press release that it was 'completely beyond reach' and would force the conversion of hundreds of thousands of hectares of land into forestry for carbon offsets.

"There is a very real risk that we could become the great pine plantation of the South Pacific — hardly something to be proud of,” a spokesperson said.

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"David Seymour, leader of the Act Party and soon-to-be Deputy Prime Minister, told Newstalk ZB the New Zealand Government should consider withdrawing from the Paris accord."

Considering both our UK and EU trade deals have us sticking to the Paris Agreement as part of them, it's probably not a great idea David

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They're pretty low tier, as far as export partners go for NZ.

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Yeah but don't we harp on about how we want to double our exports?

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They're not likely where we'll see the most growth.

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I wouldn't say that 9% of NZ's total export is low tier

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You're only talking about losing some, not all of that 9%.

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David Seymour is just a puppy barking the same bright ideas he hears from the likes of Trump and other idiotic politicians that rose to fame by being openly stupid. Unfortunately, that sort of behavior seems to be drawing attention of more and more people in NZ, as it was pointed in the article. The future does not look very bright here and in most parts of the world when it comes to the sort of folk that will run countries.

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No need to go insulting puppies.

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The lack of growth is not driven by climate accords

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No, but it's probably a bit of a handbrake.

We have to import much emissions reducing technology.

We change land usage from export orientated agriculture to growing trees

We impose environment costs on some of our activities our competitors dont

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Climate accords = additional legislative bars & taxes

Additional legislative bars & taxes = constraints on growth 

Join the dots.

Considering NZs 0.17% share of global climate emissions, our climate program is an irrelevant virtue signalling nonsense whose primary purpose appears to enable James Shaw + 100 acolytes to jet away to COP on taxpayer funded jaunts.

https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/environment/climate-change/working-with-the….

All conveniently ignoring the fact that NZ is a net CO2 emission sink because they won't / can't count properly.

"Within Australasia, Australia was a net source of 38.2 ± 75.8 TgC yr−1, and New Zealand was a net CO2 sink of −38.6 ± 13.4 TgC yr−1."

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2023GB007845

A UK study showed 57 companies were responsible for 80% of global climate emissions – which had increased since the Paris agreement.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-05/small-cohort-of-mega-polluters-produce-most-of-greenhouse-gas/103669772

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He would achieve more by incentivising business creation over speculation on existing assets. Little chance of that, though.

Seymour highlights that people are supposed to grow out of their teenage Ayn Rand phase, and most others do.

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How do you incentivise business creation over and above the profit motive?

People keep mentioning how we discourage productivity, but genuine productivity is self supporting.

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This obsession with growth is so backward. What has growth gotten us since the 70s? Much much worse inequality, crime and polarization. If I could chose between more money or a more beautiful and clean environment and happier healthier society, i chose the latter.

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Crime is actually long term lows across most categories.

But yes, generally watching values go up is likely not the best way to gauge whether we're advancing, or in a good space. It's sort of like the diminishing returns of improving ones own income; once you have your needs met, the rest of the money isn't benefitting you as much.

There needs to be a post consumption economic and social model, but we are a ways off working that out nicely.

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How many hectares of trees will need to be planted to make this target and if they're not planted, what will be the cost?

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Its already billions to not meet our current plans , and could climb to outstrip the meat exports of the land supposedly taken out of production. if anybody will trade with us. 

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I quite liked the clean car incentives. Blunt tool, yes, but if the government is going to pour money into something I think we really could do well to incentivise the use of EVs. 

I'm pretty sure it could be funded by re-writing our traffic management laws to reduce the bleed and forcing higher standards of quality on roading companies. 

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