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It’s as well that, all over the Western World, men are thinking about Rome, writes Chris Trotter. Because, make no mistake, all across the rest of the world, there is no shortage of young men thinking about the Barbarians

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It’s as well that, all over the Western World, men are thinking about Rome, writes Chris Trotter. Because, make no mistake, all across the rest of the world, there is no shortage of young men thinking about the Barbarians
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Why are men always thinking about the Roman Empire? Women, baffled by their partner’s quickening heart-rate when confronted with images of disciplined legionaries preparing to “unleash hell”, or worried by the Caesar-like poses they catch them striking in front of the bedroom mirror, have turned to their sisters on Tik-Tok for answers. Predictably, it was men who responded. The general consensus of the male commentariat? Men think about the Roman Empire a lot because the Roman Empire still contributes such a lot to what it means to be a man.

But, Rome retains its relevance for another reason, one only partially bound up with masculinity. Rome provides the template for empire: a template so powerful that we have been surrounded by its symbols for centuries. From the Dark Ages, when Charlemagne received the title of Holy Roman Emperor from the Pope; to the Consuls of the French Republic and, after them, the Emperor Napoleon; to the fasces that can still be seen adorning the United States House of Representatives and Lincoln’s memorial throne; to the classical colonnade of our own Parliament Buildings in Wellington: the legacy of Rome is ubiquitous.

The simple truth about Rome’s persistence of vision is that the ideas, the institutions, and the leaders that nourished it continue to inspire and guide our own. The way we think about politics: our curious bifurcation of means and ends; the way we honour the spirit of the Laws, even as our leaders flout the reality; the way we seek peace by preparing for war; all this is as Roman as “Hail Caesar”.

So, too, the notion that, to a favoured people, God (or, the Gods) might promise “empire without limit”. There are still numerous New Zealanders who recall hearing their parents talk about “the empire upon which the sun never sets”. To this very day, Americans still celebrate in song a continental republic stretching from “sea to shining sea”.

So, Rome lives, and men of all ages still thrill to its unalloyed celebration of power. Ninety years ago, Nazi stormtroopers marched beneath devices self-consciously modelled on the eagle standards of the Roman legions. “Hail Hitler” they cried, as lustily as the men of Rome’s Thirteenth Legion had shouted “Hail Caesar!”, offering their leader the same stiff-armed Roman salute. Certainly, the movie director Ridley Scott had as little difficulty as Joseph Goebbels in mixing valour and violence into a thrilling, if extremely dangerous, recapitulation of Rome’s political imperatives. “Gladiator” is fascism in sandals.

Rome’s shadow is visible even in today’s headlines. It is said that the Roman senator, Cato, ended every speech with the same sentence: “Ceterum (autem) censeo Carthaginem esse delendam (“Furthermore, I consider that Carthage must be destroyed.”) When it came to which great city-state should command the Mediterranean basin, Carthage or Rome? – there could be only one. Clearly, the Israeli state and Hamas have arrived at the same conclusion. Like Cato, Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, seems hell-bent on destroying his mortal enemies. When Carthage finally fell, the Romans left not one stone standing upon another. The Israeli’s seem determined to leave Gaza in the same state.

Confronted with the imminent demise of his people, the Roman historian Tacitus has the ancient Briton, Calgacus, say of his conquerors: “ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant” – they make a desert and call it peace. We must earnestly hope that Tacitus’s words do not supply Gaza with its epitaph.

Equally relevant to the headlines of the 2020s is Rome’s bloody transition from republic to empire.

Very few people living today understand that Julius Caesar, the man who made the Roman Republic’s fall inevitable, was what most of us would call a socialist. Though a patrician (aristocrat) by birth, Caesar saw in the Roman Senate little more than a corrupt body of elite oppressors of the plebs (the ordinary people).

Attempting to protect the plebs from the patricians was, however, a risky enterprise. Caesar had before him the fate of the Gracchi brothers (think of the Kennedy brothers in togas) whose lack of a sufficiently large body of armed men to protect their reformist agenda resulted in both of them being assassinated.

Caesar’s success as a political leader was founded squarely on Rome’s legions and the money they allowed him to amass. By the time the patricians became desperate enough to kill him, Caesar had made sure that the corrupt, elite-driven Roman Republic was beyond saving. His adopted heir and protégé, Octavian, would become Rome’s first emperor.

It is very difficult to look upon the corruption and dysfunction of the present American Republic without recalling the moral and social disintegration of the Roman Republic. (The constitutional inspiration, incidentally, of the USA’s founding fathers.)

Like the young Roman Republic, the young United States would acquire its own version of empire and, by virtue of its military and economic strength, emerge as the master of its world. As is so often the case, however, the vigour and vitality of a young republic fades. Wealth substitutes for glory. Republican virtue becomes a memory. Unity dissolves. The republic falls into the hands of men with too much money and too many years.

The question upon which the fate of the world now turns is whether or not the American Republic, still rich, still immensely powerful, can rise above the rancour and corruption into which it has fallen. Caesar was murdered by men who clung to a Roman republican constitution that no longer worked. It had become a threadbare veil, no longer capable of hiding – let alone restraining – the naked ambition of ruthless political and military leaders eager to replace it with something more rational – and less restrictive.

There are many who would argue that the United States is not that far removed from the circumstances which led to the fall of the Roman Republic. America’s enemies would appear to be better students of history than either the Democratic or Republican parties. Profound challenges to American hegemony in Europe, the Indo-Pacific and the Middle East can hardly be faced down by a nation that cannot even elect a Speaker of the House of Representatives – let alone pass a budget! Not even Rome, in all its long history, was able to produce a cavalcade of clowns to match the current American spectacle.

That the USA is presided over by a man in his 80s speaks eloquently of the USA’s predicament. Every day, it’s sclerotic institutions make it clear that America is no longer a country for young men. America desperately needs what Rome, in extremis, always seemed to find: a vigorous political general, with a plan in his mind – and legions at his back.

It is as well, then, that, all over the Western World, young men are thinking about Rome. Because, if ever there was time to “unleash hell” on the decrepit, the corrupt, and the criminally incompetent, then that time is now. For, make no mistake, all across the rest of the world, there is no shortage of young men thinking about the Barbarians.


*Chris Trotter has been writing and commenting professionally about New Zealand politics for more than 30 years. He writes a weekly column for interest.co.nz. His work may also be found at http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com.

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Britain too had an empire. A great navy & the red coats placed it and kept it on every point of compass at a far greater range than that of Rome but just the same, from which great wealth was extracted That structure and activity provided a handy use for thir plebs, the hoi polloi. Press gangs got sailors, troops were cannon fodder. Consequences could be awkward, the land seizures,  expulsions  in Scotland after the Napoleonic wars were partly to solve the problem of a whole echelon of battle hardened soldiers arriving home with not much to do. Two world war saw the end of it. Ironically Britain had to then import man power from its empire to fill the gaps of their own. That introduced the racial divide that plagues them today exacerbated by immigration courtesy of the EU. 

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Nobody - including Trotter -  mentioned energy/entropy. 

Tainter (Collapse of complex societies, 1988)  is the go-to read. 

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Didn't need to PDK. It was self evident. The politicians lust for power and avarice out grew the available resources. They bled what resources were available away from where they were needed, weakening the republic and leaving it vulnerable to external forces. Entirely applicable today, even here in NZ.

Very good piece.

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That sounds all too familiar after the last 3 years.

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 The general consensus of the male commentariat?

The word general is redundant. By definition consensus is general.

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consensus among <general>

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I was puzzled , then dismayed by the Israeli P.M's encouragement of his troops to win. What is the score , body count , building count, territory ???

Only one thing is sure , ordinary people will be the biggest losers. 

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Seldom have I seen a politician urge his army to lose.

 

You seem very certain you know the outcome before the process has even begun. Hamas has been the defacto government after ceasing control from Fatah, for all you know Gazans may welcome an election and change of direction.

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The only thing that is certain is that many will die and be injured. 

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It’s our nature…. Cannot be avoided 

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True. Sadly proven by the reality of the casualties already.

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I dont think it is the Israeli governments intention to return democracy to Gaza. More likely drive 2.3m Palestinians South and annex the territory. The west bank is a pretty good indication as to their intention.

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Everyday

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No mention of the Roman Empire and how the soldiers and hoi polloi were shafted by the devaluation of the Denarius. It's the dirty secret the Anglosphere empire doesn't want to talk about.

USD has lost 17% of its purchasing power in the last 3 years. And that is if you believe the CPI is accurate. Most people know if it intentionally underreporting inflation. So the loss in purchasing power is actually much more than 17%.

Is your salary up 25% in the past 3 years? if not, you are probably poorer.

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Fortunately TD's came to the rescue with a 500% increase in 3 years.

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Fortunately TD's came to the rescue with a 500% increase in 3 years.

Increasing the price of debt has not rescued the hoi polloi wrt purchasing power and destruction of currencies. In fact, it's made their situation more perilous. 

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Exactly, if the money is broken and there is rampant taxation through inflation the entire system falls apart. 

People are still just people and will repeat the same mistakes world wide and all through time. 

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they have also revised the algorithm for calculating GDP, so that US GDP looks bigger, and debt size looks smaller comparing to GDP.

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Every time I go to Rome I go and look at the concrete dome of the Pantheon.  It's sort of a ritual.

As I gaze up what impresses me is not that 2000 years ago they could built such a thing in concrete.  What impresses me is that Europe went back to building in mud and sticks for the following 800 years.

Moral of the story.  Progress is not always forward.

 

 

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Nice CT. And true enough I'm afraid. We could argue that the great American Empire is an extension of the great British Empire on a linguistic technicality but as you say, everything humanly created eventually comes apart in one form or another. Other great cultures from the Middle East, Africa & Asia have all had similar fates as what made them great is inherited by the next generation who don't quite understand how hard the earlier generations had to fight to create it in the first place. They then eventually become entitled as they know no different, which leads to all sorts of factions wanting to have their slice of the pie before it fades into oblivion.

We see this today inside our tertiary institutions with their crazy ideologies, who then infect their good friends the broadcasters, the medias, who then convince the state bureaucracy to do their bit, followed there-after by the liberalisation of the legal systems [lookout crims about] until so many are on the same page [to destruction] that they convince themselves they they are the new righteous ones.

Meantime, businesses [the armies] are left to rot, maddening mandates appear here, there & everywhere, often for no good reason other than to control the masses, whilst feeding the plebs [that's you & me] false knowledge designed to confuse & subject them to elite bombasticisms that makes no sense to anyone with half a brain.

In other words, your missive today hits the nail squarely on the head.

Beware the communists from within, for they are surely worse than the communists from the other side.

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When Carthage finally fell, the Romans left not one stone standing upon another. The Israeli’s seem determined to leave Gaza in the same state.

If the Israelis wanted to level Gaza they would be using US$500 155mm artillery shells and armoured bulldozers not $20k precision guided munitions and infantry.

 

Students of history might note that the end of the Roman Empire wasn't the barbarian Visigoths but the counter-invasion of the East Roman Empire, the Byzantines.

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Are the 20k guided munitions C neutral? 

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Factoid.   The Byzantines were Roman and Christian.  Emperor Constantine and Justinian (Justin ?) etc.   They hung on - barely - in Istanbul (Constantinople) for near a thousand years or so until the Ottomans nailed them finally.

Rome did not end with Rome.  But we don't commonly teach that because of our Western focus. 

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A prescient piece. Is this an example of the current potus not knowing his own mind? Last year he was mythologising the Irish struggle against the black and tans in reference to defeating the All Blacks Joe Biden appears to confuse All Blacks with Black and Tans in speech in Irish pub | Stuff.co.nz, now he claims to be a Zionist 'I am a Zionist': How Joe Biden's lifelong bond with Israel shapes war policy | RNZ News.   

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All Black and tans? Taking the field after a Caribbean stopover would make that explainable.

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Old liberals commenting on these matters, the real force that is coming for this senile liberal world are the radical young. 

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You woke bro

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It is just cringe hearing old libs talk about these empires. 

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Palestinians Arabs should have taken the deal in 47. They didn't and have been the aggressors in ever conflict. 

 

It is their leaders who have failed them and they people who suffer because of it. 

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Bot?

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Truth hurts

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What if they had chosen to slice off a large part of NZ to create Israel in 47. Should we have taken the deal?

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We deal with the here and now... facts and possible outcomes of the future. History informs but cannot be revisited.

A future with relative peace requires (1) the Arabs to recognise Israel is a state (2) Palestinians deserve to have a nation state that is self determining.

I understand point (1) above is the sticking point. Hence there they are.. still fighting.

 

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Palestinians were given a state. Jordan. Which by rights should also have belonged to Israel.

There was no shortage of land when England and France divided the Middle East at their whim. 

Only a shortage of justice.

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In the early '20s Ben Gurion offered the arabe the whole of Palestine except for the areas surrounding Modern Tel Aviv. 

It was the Arabs that wouldn't make a deal not the Jews.

I feel for the Arabs. They have been let down by their leaders.

 

 

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Israel should be driven into the sea. I stand with the Gazans.

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Figures, you have German Nazi genes Von Metternich

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Tough to do, since Israel has at least 200 nuclear weapons and all the Arab states know it.  

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You opinion is valid. Hence the IDF. 

 

On the counter though is that the gazans should be driven into the sea. Which appears more likely.

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As always the global elites control everything. In modern times with a combination of coercion and suppression, rather than suppression only. The outcomes are the same. Human nature doesn’t change. Greed and power accumulation are the two strongest drives for the elites. Which works for the betterment of humanity by and large as technological development and resource exploitation result in a few crumbs falling on the tables of the plebs. Unfortunately the earth has run out of resources and our technology cannot save all of us with climate change beginning to overwhelm us. Climate change will destroy our current civilisation as it has destroyed many former civilisations. The difference this time will be that all societies are being affected as we continue our march to fossil fuel driven destruction. I think the global elites are well placed to husband the remaining resources and maintain control over military power to survive the future. Geographical location and infrastructure will determine which societies/empires survive and thrive. Where we are vulnerable in NZ is that we have the location and infrastructure but not the military to protect ourselves. We need strong alliances with the big boys to survive which means we need to remain useful to them by continuing to grow food to avoid an invasion in the future.

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i read yesterday that China has 140 million sheep . I don't think they see our strategic worth as growing food , we wouldn't be missed. more our position as the last big post east of Australia , off to South America , and north to the Pacific. Hence our inclusion in 5 eyes etc.

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Just a thought.

Shouldn't we evolve to eliminate the vulnerable?  As in only the stong survive and global warming will weed out the weak?

 

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By ‘weak and vulnerable’, you mean the human species?

 

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