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Susan St John sees either a National or Labour-led government presiding over deepening family poverty among beneficiaries and the working poor

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Susan St John sees either a National or Labour-led government presiding over deepening family poverty among beneficiaries and the working poor
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By Susan St John*

Casual observers could be forgiven for thinking the National Party’s recently released Working for Families tax policy had been cut and pasted from the Labour Party’s own policy. The similarities are certainly striking.

Both parties pledge to increase the “in-work tax credit” (IWTC) by NZ$25, to $97.50 a week from April next year. They also promise to raise the Working for Families (WFF) household income abatement threshold (above which payments start reducing at 27%) from $42,700 to $50,000 in 2026.

In this strange pre-election coalescence, there is no longer even a pretence of delivering on Labour’s stalled Working for Families review that promised “fundamental” changes to the system.

The major WFF tax credit remains the Family Tax Credit. It costs $2.3 billion a year, and is worth $137 weekly for the first child, and $111.60 for each extra child. This payment goes to all low-income children, whether or not parents are on welfare benefits, and is the major income tool to address child poverty.

But nearly one fifth of the two main WFF tax credits are made up by the IWTC, costing $500 million annually. Only children in families with some paid work (and not on any benefit) are eligible. Thus around 200,000 of the poorest children are excluded, disproportionately affecting Māori, Pacific and disabled children.

Poverty and paid work

The current IWTC is a flat $72.50 a week for families with one to three children, with an extra $15 added for each additional child. Parents or caregivers (if eligible) receive both child-related tax credits in one weekly payment.

But the IWTC can quickly disappear if their employment status changes due to illness, redundancy or some other cause. Unless they struggle on without a welfare benefit and have “some” paid work, they can keep the IWTC for only two weeks.

The problem lies in the way the IWTC conflates two different things: an incentive to seek and find paid work, and a mechanism for reducing child poverty. By withholding a payment that reduces poverty – when a household loses paid work or is on a benefit – child poverty is perpetuated.

Until now, the IWTC has tended to be an issue within obscure tax debates. But with both major parties effectively proposing the same policy, the political origins of the IWTC and the worrying implications of the current consensus are out in the open.

A brief history of tax credits

In 1996, the then-National government could not ignore the rapid increase in child poverty that followed its “mother of all budgets” in 1991, and increased weekly “family support” payments by $20 per child.

Of that increase, $15 comprised what became known as the Child Tax Credit. It was only available for children whose parents were “independent from the state”. The poorest children received only the remaining $5 from the increase, not nearly enough to match inflation.

The opposition Labour Party vowed to remove what it saw as discrimination. Finance spokesperson Michael Cullen spoke in parliament of National’s “simplistic tangle of bigotry and ignorance”:

Children are children are children, no matter who their parents are. To draw distinctions between what the state says should go to low-income families on the basis of the source of that income, rather than on the level of that income, is obscene.

But when Labour returned to power in 1999 it changed nothing for five years, until 2005 when it turned the old family support payment into the Family Tax Credit. Then in 2006, it transformed the Child Tax Credit of $15 per child into the IWTC.

‘Bigotry and ignorance’: Michael Cullen (with then prime minister Helen Clark) delivering the 2005 budget. Getty Images.

Debt and distress

The IWTC became a flat $60 per week for a family with one to three children, and $15 for each additional child. But to qualify, sole parents had to perform at least 20 hours of paid work each week, and a couple 30 hours.

In 2016, the National government left the Family Tax Credit unchanged and instead favoured those in paid work by raising the IWTC to $72.50 per week, where it sits today.

The current Labour government removed the fixed hours of paid work requirement in 2020 due to COVID’s employment effects. But “some” paid work is still required, and a family cannot be on any benefit.

Furthermore, any alleged “overpayment” of WFF (due to unexpected extra income, or when the vague rules around paid work, benefits or relationship status are not met) must be repaid to Inland Revenue.

For families already struggling with other debt, this only adds to their distress. Inland Revenue reported a 26% increase in WFF debt for the year to June 2022.

And yet, due to the way the Family Tax Credit is calculated, the IWTC may be paid in full well up the income scale. Under the proposed election policies, for example, the weekly $25 increase to the IWTC will mean a five-child family can earn nearly $160,000 before their IWTC of $102.50 starts to reduce.

Those families would not appear to need any work incentive. But the worst-off children in struggling families who do not qualify will fall even further behind.

A fairer system

Better strategies to reduce child poverty and help low-wage families are needed. Why not simply give the full WFF package to families that currently miss out on the $72.50 (more for larger families), regardless of their household’s employment status?

This would meaningfully reduce child poverty in a cost-effective way. After all, both parties have signed up to the Child Poverty Reduction Act, but their election policies do little to address these issues.

All of the new spending would go to the worst-off, and none of it to higher-income families. Yes, it would be expensive at $500 million. But the policy to retain and enlarge the IWTC is expensive already.

Finally, many low-income families find they are hardly better off if they earn over the $42,700 abatement threshold. Each extra dollar earned may end up as only a few cents in the hand after 17.5 cents in tax, 27 cents in WFF, and often 25 cents in housing assistance and 12 cents in student loan repayments, are all taken out.

The Labour-National proposed increase to only $50,000 by 2026 is too little, too late. Today it should be $53,000 just to match inflation.

As it stands, both Labour and National will preside over deepening family poverty among beneficiaries, while ignoring the huge work disincentives faced by the working poor.The Conversation


*Susan St John, Honorary Associate Professor, Economic Policy Centre, Auckland Business School, University of Auckland. This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

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Love to see the stats on:

1. How many families continued to have children whilst unable to provide the essentials for life.

2. The numbers who continue to smoke and drink but can't afford to offer healthy food to their children.

3. Visit the local library in an attempt to improve the educational level of themselves and dependents 

Yes, there are some hard luck stories but there are a shitload of losers breeding like rats crippling our state housing supply.

NZs biggest issue is intergenerational welfare dependency mixed with crime and disproportionate use of health resources. Now add zero personal responsibility and you have the utopia of Aotearoa.

 

 

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So your stance is poor people should not have children?

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By definition if you are in poverty you should not have children. Full stop.

If you are poor and dependent on the state for WFF tax credits you are on the breadline. You shouldn't have more children as life will only get harder.

The expectation that the state i.e the tax payer will support you and your children in the long term is flawed. Note I have no issue with support when families split due to domestic violence/partner dying/redundancy. However, this should be short term and not the 'decade long abuse of housing and benefit payments' that is the norm in Aotearoa.

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This whole thread of yours is quite insufferable, I'm surprised you have as many upvotes as you do but I think that says more about the poor state of this nation than the state of your hypothetical beneficiaries and dole bludgers.

Let's unpack this, how much do these people cost our nation when we support them? Hmm well the government creates funds, taxes those funds, and then the family spend the money they receive, all of it, in our economy. As that money transfers hands, it is taxed to the point it either ends up in someone elses savings balance, offshore, or completely taxed back to the government. So the tax payer cost of this beneficiary? Zero. The part we miss out on is the social obligation to work to produce something and earn additional income, to spend more, to pay more tax.

That said, given our birth rate is so low, is it not better to consider children a production? Given those children should be able to grow up and we should hope that they are more capable of meeting their social obligation to work to pay tax and contribute to society.

Now I am not saying that in all cases this dream land where we're all happy as larry and can live and raise our families without any obligation to work. I'm suggesting that we would have a bigger problem both financially, and socially, if we do not support these families. Where do they go, what do they do if they have no support, nothing?

Let's move on, you don't choose your parents, and by the sounds of it you grew up in a position of privilege somewhere along the way you were given hope to achieve your dream to play a game. I really couldn't care less if you found that hard, and chose not to have a family, that's an individual choice you made at the time to not be productive and contribute to society, but to play a game. So given the above example, can you explain how this is so high and mighty in comparison to a solo mother contributing two or three active members of society? And don't give that cyclical poverty drip, because we can and should do better.

On that note, let's move on to the children, who do not choose the environment in which they are raised, but it definitely is our responsibility as a society to provide an environment where our collective children are able to grow up and contribute, not be ostracized. And so how do we get there? We support those families who are most vulnerable. Because the amount of support they need as children is pennies compared to the cost of a lifetime of antisocial behavior.

And so what's the plan? Stop paying welfare? Then what? Those children, they're out on the street. They're out on your street, they're stealing your cars, they're smashing your windows, and then what? You're scared, you need help, taxpayer costs go up to monitor and maintain crime rates, prisons, you name it.

I really just want to say I'd be ashamed of myself if I ever had the same views as you have expressed here about children, and I sincerely hope you weren't referring to NZ when you mentioned you represented your country because these views aren't anything to be proud of.

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Just as a two cents, it's really hard to counteract bad parentage with money, or state resources.

Like it or not, nepotism is a hallmark of the human experience; hence many of our surnames represent a vocation. We do seem to have a society of increasingly absent fathers, and the ramifications of this are fairly dire. Most of who we are is baked in by 7 (I think 12 at the latest), and our education sector cannot fill the void of dysfunctional early development.

While we obviously desire natural population growth/sustenance, but there are fairly diminishing returns from trying to encourage it via state support.

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Yes,  failed people should not reproduce, you just get more failed people

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Not failed people. People who can't afford to have children.

I've represented my country in sport. It took sig sacrifice including time and finance. Being on the bones of my ass it would have been ignorant to bring a child into this world when I could not afford the essentials required for a newborn eg warm house, clothes, food etc.

Failed and financially strained are 2 different things. Conflating them is misleading and speaks to social darwinism.

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Well I raised a son as a solo father, it took big sacrifice including time and finance. I even required help from WINZ and couldn't afford the security of a home. But he had the essentials which aren't limited to the material. In theory I couldn't afford him. I couldn't have done it without the help of friends, family, strangers and 'benefits'. The help of my village.

He put himself through university with a scholarship, achieved high grades and many invites to higher studies, business and entrepreneurship activities. By all accounts he is now able to contribute to economic activity. But I'd like to think I've raised him as more than an economic number. 

As someone who has compassion, empathy and respect for other people's experiences, background and circumstances, evident by the way he treats and talks about others.

Everybody is doing their best with what they know. Consider yourself privileged that you 'know' different not better. That you might've had a healthier upbringing and now you're in a position to make a difference in other people's lives. I'm guessing you're not ram raiding but have you ever considered how you might be contributing to the problems? Labelling others as losers and fuckwits doesn't contribute anything positive.

I could possibly fit into the hard luck story. Not looking for sympathy as I'm also aware that it was my response ability that led to my own circumstances. But through my experience I can be aware that everybody is wired differently, that many don't 'know' better and many factors affect ones ability to make change. And that affects the many less financially constrained too. 

 

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Props to you for being a solo parent. Been there when my kids were small, full time. Despite having a reasonably high income at the time, I too couldn’t “afford” them. But we did our best and made it through, became a master of budgeting for a family and now have fully functional members of society to contribute.

I definitely wouldn’t have made it as far in my career and would be nowhere near as productive as I am today without the support I had then. 

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An old saying "It takes a village/community to raise a child", could be the village is flawed and has unhealthy values.

Calling people a shitload of losers highlights your contribution to the issues.

I've had this discussion with my "boomer" parents many times when they express the same attitude. I remind them that their parents couldn't "afford" them either but still had them. My parents were 1 of 9 children and 1 of 12. Sometimes a bit of compassion is called for.

Are you out there offering assistance of your wisdom and knowledge to empower these 'losers' or do you continue to vote for your self interest even if it adds to the issues?

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'It takes a village to raise a child.' This expression is a crock of shit and was used by Ardern to encompass NZ as our 'local village.'

In my culture it is the parent's responsibility to raise a child. Input is received gratefully from Grandparents and siblings. Expecting others to step in is abrogating responsibility. Case in point the numerous fwits from Sth Auckland who come from dysfunctional families. The Childrens Commissioner stated that 68% of ram raiders came from families known to Police.

High degree of truth to the adage 'beggars beget beggars.'

 

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Your level of ignorance and bigotry is simply stunning.

 

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How so?

I could equally say your misguided philanthropy via taxpayers and rose-tinted glasses undermines any changes to the issues the country faces.

I'll make it simple: Some people genuinely need help, some don't. Many are in shit street due to their poor decisions. Some people are beyond help and will always abuse the system.

 

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Cheetahlegs66,

Your first comment on this thread uses some unnecessarily appalling language. It's not necessary to make your point and nor is it welcome on this forum.

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"Many are in shit street due to their poor decisions."

Possibly more so due to inadequate literacy and numeracy skills which apart from anything else preclude them from being able to obtain any work in the first place  ..... and poor decisions following, in times of stress and real strife, which their low levels of literacy and numeracy continuously place them in.

 

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Did your grandparents sit around on the dole or were they hard working?  Maybe I want to have 10 kids, but I sure as hell won't be doing that while both my wife and I have to work full time to put a roof over our heads. 

So do we both go on the dole and ask WINZ to give us a brand new house at 25% of our benefit?  

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"Did your grandparents sit around on the dole or were they hard working?"

Off topic. The topic was whether they could afford more children given they were poor. And in theory no they couldn't. I'm not sure what subsidies or tax benefits they might've been entitled to.

Maybe my parents couldn't actually afford to have my brother's and I if it weren't for child benefits, community minded childcare, free education, job security etc.

It's interesting. Somehow we've learned to bitch about the beneficiary's who by all accounts have less, but we don't bitch enough about the beneficiary's who have more than enough and probably contribute more to the stresses of the "squeezed middle". We don't care to understand why is it our parents could afford to have a home and raise children on a single income and accept now as normal, or how to change this. 

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If you've seen my comments on here, you'll know that I bitch about our biggest beneficiaries that have more than enough, that is the superannuants who receive non-means tested superannuation.  Not all superannuants have more than enough, but this form of benefit does not discriminate.  

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Well that is a whole of stereotypical falsehoods you have pumped out there.

Where is the empathy and the humanity? 

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The sort of article written under the belief that the only scene is government dollars.

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There are many single people on extremely modest incomes who are actually subsidising the Working for Families programme. 

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An unemployed person with a partner and two children earns more on an unemployment benefit than over HALF of all workers in NZ!  $63,000 a year compared to the median income of $61,000 a year.  How much more do you want to incentivise people to not work, and just go on benefits and pump out kids?  Thousands of people were transferred from JobSeeker to the Sole Parent Benefit by Labour when they decided that sole parents no longer needed to look for work (along with child support payments going to the parent on top of their benefit instead of to the Govt who is already paying to support the child). 

Paying people to not work but to keep breeding is why there are more kids living in poverty under Labour.  As Charlie Munger said "show me the incentives, and I'll show you the outcome".

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Agree 100%. Susan St John would have a society where everyone can be looked after regardless of their personal choices. Some folk need to be living in caravan parks.

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Not may solutions proposed to limit unneeded excess children to those on the benefit.

Women between the ages of 16 to 45 who have been on the benefit for more than 6 months (or for 8months within a period of a year) and already have  two children need to have their tubes tied.

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Why not vasectomies for the useless fathers instead? There are some young men in impoverished communities who see getting a young woman pregnant as their meal ticket. 

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