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Chris Trotter says to announce that your party is even 'exploring' bestowing upon Māori the 'right of first refusal' on privately-owned land offered for sale will certainly test the relative strengths of collectivism and individualism in New Zealand!

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Chris Trotter says to announce that your party is even 'exploring' bestowing upon Māori the 'right of first refusal' on privately-owned land offered for sale will certainly test the relative strengths of collectivism and individualism in New Zealand!
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By Chris Trotter*

Norman Kirk's colleagues called it the “bloody red book”, and privately lamented that he referred to it constantly at Cabinet. Labour’s 1972 Manifesto was taken very seriously by “The Boss”. It contained promises which the voters expected a Labour Government to keep – and Kirk was not about to let them down.

It is a measure of how profoundly the practice of New Zealand politics has changed since the 1970s that, back then, both the public sector chiefs and the news media took party manifestos very seriously. The former detailed talented underlings to tease out the costs and consequences of the parties’ plans. The news media did its best to do acquaint the public with the same information.

Just how far party manifestos had been downgraded was demonstrated vividly by another Labour prime minister, David Lange, who frankly admitted to his party not bothering with a manifesto in 1987 – on the grounds that had his government told the voters what it was planning to do they would have voted it out of office!

What passed for manifestos in the aftermath of the radical economic changes of the 1980s and 90s were glossy documents containing few words and many pictures. Coherent arguments were replaced by bullet-pointed sentences inspired by the reactions of focus-groups. From being statements of party principle and purpose, manifestos simply told voters what they wanted to hear – as interpreted by the polling agencies hired to translate the vox populi.

Even then, there was no guarantee that these pre-tested promises would be kept. The extent to which cynicism had come to guide the behaviour of New Zealand politicians was famously revealed by the Labour Cabinet Minister Steve Maharey, who informed the House of Representatives that an unfulfilled party promise was: “Just one of those things you say when you’re in Opposition, and then forget about when you’re in Government.”

The exception to this downgrading of the election manifesto was the small, ideologically-driven party determined to present its transformational programme to the electorate in considerable detail. Perhaps the most famous of these was the manifesto prepared by the Values Party for the 1975 general election. Across 91 pages, its idealistic authors described the sort of nation the Values Party believed New Zealand could/should become. Retailing for $1.65 (roughly $20.00 in today’s money) “Beyond Tomorrow” became a best seller.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the impressive precedent set by their Values predecessors served as an inspiration to the Greens who remembered it. So much so that, even today, the Green Party makes an effort to present its ideas in some detail to the public. This year’s effort, “The Time Is Now”, at 48 A4 pages, may not be as inspiring as “Beyond Tomorrow”, but the Greens have, at least, made an effort.

No matter how odious comparisons are said to be, it is instructive to compare the opening lines of “The Time Is Now” with those of “Beyond Tomorrow”. The latter begins with a quote from Gandhi: “The earth has enough for everyman’s need, but not enough for everyman’s greed.” The opening line of “The Time Is Now” reads: “Our vision is a climate-friendly Aotearoa that honours Te Tiriti and meets the needs of everyone within the boundaries of the planet, so that we and the rest of nature can thrive.” The remaining 47 pages are intended to translate that “vision” into a consistent policy platform.

Introducing the Greens’ manifesto to the party’s AGM on Sunday (9/7/23) Co-Leader Marama Davidson began by describing what she believes to be the essence of Greenness:

“As Greens we have always found [our] humanity in being part of a collective.”

Not the best start in a nation whose majority culture is firmly founded upon the principle that the human individual is supreme, and whose touchstone novel is entitled “Man Alone”. Being of Ngāti Porou, Te Rarawa, and Ngāpuhi descent, it is entirely reasonable for Davidson to espouse the values of te Ao Māori, but for a party whose voter base is overwhelmingly well-educated, middle-class and Pakeha, extolling collective values may not be the most effective opening gambit – psycho-socially speaking.

Never mind. Let us proceed on the assumption that the Green Party’s members and voters are all staunch collectivists. Certainly, that would need to be the case if their commitment to an Aotearoa which honours te Tiriti is genuine. Especially when honouring te Tiriti involves facilitating “the return of whenua that was wrongfully alienated from tangata whenua, including through exploring a right of first refusal process that enables the return of private land to iwi, hapū and whānau at point of sale”.

To announce that your party is even “exploring” the idea of bestowing upon Māori the “right of first refusal” on privately-owned land offered for sale will certainly test the relative strengths of collectivism and individualism in New Zealand!

There was a very good reason why the Waitangi Tribunal was forbidden from considering privately-owned land, a reason which is, almost certainly, as valid today as it was forty years ago. Restoring the status-quo-ante that prevailed prior to the enforced alienation of Māori land is an invitation to civil war. One suspects that the Greens’ manifesto promise to “Implement the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) in Aotearoa”, would amount to the same thing.

Not to worry, just a few pages on, under the heading of “Workforce”, the Greens’ manifesto promises to: “Legislate for a right to solidarity strikes and political strikes.”

One of the most effective political strikes on record is the general strike of Protestant workers organised by the Ulster Workers Council, which took place in Northern Ireland between 15-28 May 1974. The strikers successfully destroyed the Sunningdale Agreement establishing a power-sharing arrangement between the Protestant and Catholic communities under the auspices of the governments of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland. The strike forced the UK Government to restore direct rule from London.

This sort of political strike is, patently, not the sort of political strike the Greens were thinking of when they confirmed that particular element of their Workforce policy. But they should be under no illusion that it is but one of the many radical responses to which the Pakeha majority would likely have resort if UNDRIP was imposed from above by a Green Government.

Many readers will undoubtedly object that the Greens are fully aware that they will be in no position to enforce the policies contained in their manifesto, and that its content is purely aspirational. But, if that is the case, then they are merely children playing at the game of politics, and should not be treated as serious contenders for office.

A political party offering a manifesto to the public, is expected to have thoroughly debated its contents and satisfied itself that the measures proposed are both desirable and workable. And, further, that its MPs are committed, 100 percent, to implementing its promises. “Given the power, this is what we’ll do.” That is the pledge they are making. If the only purpose of publishing a manifesto is to make themselves feel better, then the Greens should abjure participation in any government.

Norman Kirk was very likely the last New Zealand prime minister to take his party’s manifesto promises seriously. What New Zealanders read in the “bloody red book”, was what New Zealanders got from “Big Norm” – until the pressures of giving it to them killed him.

If the “bloody green book” is not a document to be taken seriously, then neither is the party that wrote it.


*Chris Trotter has been writing and commenting professionally about New Zealand politics for more than 30 years. He writes a weekly column for interest.co.nz. His work may also be found at http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com.

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Frightening from a historical perspective. consider all "Collective" ideologies from history and it becomes very easy to see that the collective resources are essentially reserved and controlled by a political elite, and severely rationed to the rest. This is nothing more than pandering to Maori 'Have-Nots'. Those who thought they would get rich from treaty settlements, but didn't. The worrying fact is that there will be many who will be thoroughly sucked in by this, and empowered by the approach. I see a potential for a repeat of Zimbabwe in this.

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A dangerous item in the Greens manifesto is to "Ensure all individuals who whakapapa Māori are eligible for Aotearoa citizenship, regardless of country of residence or birth".
This introduces a clear division between people living (and perhaps born) outside New Zealand who can claim some Māori ancestry and thus would be able to claim New Zealand citizenship, and others who have New Zealand non-Māori ancestry, who might not.
The policy states no generational limit, so a person born outside New Zealand of parents and ancestors also born outside New Zealand would be able to claim citizenship on the basis of a single Māori great-great-great-great-grandparent.
Inevitably, if this policy were to become law, the next step would be to grant all these expatriate citizens the right to vote, potentially transferring the power to elect governments to 'citizens' living outside New Zealand and with no connection to it other than remote claims to 'whakapapa Māori'.

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Here’s where the Greens are really dangerous.

Firstly they combine  with Labour to entrench Three Waters clandestinely at the eleventh  hour and in so doing wilfully subvert acknowledged parliamentary protocol. Obviously within that attempt was a worthy quid pro quo for their benefit from a certain faction in the Labour government.

Secondly they propose to empower the IRD to enquire into, record ,  monitor  and audit the legitimately owned assets of NZ citizens in order to prosecute a wealth tax. The Magna Carta of 1215 is a cornerstone of our law for good reason preventing intervention by the Crown for such purpose.

This can only suggest the Greens have neither respect nor knowledge of the foundations of our society and as such are motivated by an agenda to overturn statutes or anything else to arrive at implementation of policy.

 

 

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Nice try. But it's not as if Moses brought Magna Carta down from Mount Sinai carved in stone.

New Zealand's tax system was largely based on wealth and property till 1930, when income tax became general. Income tax reached its peak during World War II with a top rate of 90%, which would make one's eyes water. But wealth taxes continued: land tax abolished in 1992, death duties in 1993, and gift tax in 2011. So perhaps the Greens' tax aspirations simply lead general taxation back in the direction of the pre-income-tax era.

https://teara.govt.nz/en/taxes/page-1

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You miss the point. Taxable criteria and collection is altogether another thing. Compiling a doomsday book, a ledger of citizens private ownership has never existed here. The IRD has been correctly and understandably refrained from ‘fishing expeditions.” But while about your history have a look at Nazi German  p1938 Decree reporting of Jewish-owned property which undoubtedly would align with the mechanics of that  particular persuasion.

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I see a potential for a repeat of Zimbabwe in this.

Absolutely. The slippery slope to New Zimbabwe. 

If the ideological nutters in Greens and TPM somehow get elected to power, it will be the final nail in the coffin for NZ.

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Perhaps the Green Party, as we now know it today, should have called their current manifesto, "Our Time was Yesterday", as they wish to take us back to a past that we don't want in any shape or form.

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The Greens are a bunch of very dangerous lunatics utterly blinded by their extreme ideology and ultimately hostile to the fundamental values of liberal democracy. Their talk of "humanity being part of a collective" does have a Stalinist flavour, and it sounds like something coming out of a North Korea political manifesto, a Robespierre's Committee of Public Safety's statement, or even out of the Star Trek's Borg.   

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I'd encourage readers to see what happened to Robespierre. Bit rough for a NZ politician? Maybe not? 

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It reads like they asked ChatGPT to come up with a manifesto that would appeal to the average Reddit NZ poster. 

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They survive only by dint of the international Green political movement that is a forceful presence in such as Germany.For instance our  elderly neighbours vote for them willy nilly and have told us that they are voting for Green Peace. More might vote that way too if that was the Greens  true base here. But it’s not. It’s been high jacked by career politicians with little calibre,  and scarce chance to exist in a main party, pursuing ideological clap trap aimed at disincentivising success and penalising those that are successful. An American judge I once chatted to at an airport defined socialism as taking money from him that he had earned, paid tax on and saved and giving it to someone who had done none of those things. Simplistically harsh I thought at the time, but with NZ’s Greens it’s right on the mark.

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I got a German Engineer friend who lives here and she says the Green party here is nowhere near what the Green party stands for or represents in Germany. Example she told me the Green party in Germany looks at a project in Germany if in the long term it's going to cut out creation of CO2 or help the environment like say a new motorway/infrastructure project which helps people move and cuts down on vehicles usage etc. But is going to create CO2 by building it so be it. The long term is were their focus is. The Greens of NZ don't want nothing to happen they want you and I to just sit there and eat beans while they fly around the world telling everyone how well they have done. Absolute plonkers and career/good for nothing politicians 

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The Greens are actually straight up evil. Monopolising the environmental vote - so it never gets the support it needs.

While their true focus is identity politics nonsense.

They actively harm the environment with the political game they play. 

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Spot-on!

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I wish we had a true environmental party that would work with either side of the political spectrum

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I totally agree - as the Green Party has been hi-jacked into a Communist party.  A true environmental party, which focuses on clean water, recycling, solar, wind, etc would get my vote, but the Greens are have a dangerous agenda.

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Its not just a communist party either, its its some sort of appallingly perverted and racist party that wants to rule NZ based on Maori whakapapa.  The CIS white male comment was more than a flippant remark. How long does James Shaw have?  

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I think it is a case of the more desperate that they get, the more stupid their announcements. Maori stuff has had it's highwater mark. The backlash is beginning and unfortunately, it will hit hard-working normal Maori that have nothing to do with this nonsense as well.

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I disagree with this - i cant see any backlash hurting everyday Maori. Like what?

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Racism. 5 years ago I would have pulled someone up on it. Now I know they are just pissed off.

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This.  People forget that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction (probably because we no longer teach actual Science) but the more extreme Left or Right people go, the more extreme the antagonism, resentment and hatred that is created in opposition.  Until we get to the point where co-existence is no longer possible. 

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Oh I do see all this separatism hurting 'ordinary  Maori. They are really hurt by Julian Batchelor's tour .Buddy Makaere claims he is lying but says he has not read He Puapua.

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What would Ron Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons think....

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The party has been hijacked. The priority of environmental issues has been overwhelmed by a socialist agenda, extremely left at that. Orwell here is appropriate, something like - it’s not so much that Socialists love the poor, it’s their hatred of the rich that drives them.

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I voted for them for 30 years. They would not be pleased. Never Green again! ACT.

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With their proposed wealth tax which would kill investment in NZ, and many policies that would cost middle-class taxpayers dearly, the Greens may get 8-9% at the expense of Labour, but will not break any new ground.

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That is probably the end for any chance of Lab Green Maori coalition. How to alienate any floating white voters

in 1983 in UK Labour manifesto was labelled the longest suicide note in history. Now it has competition. Utter stupidity. Hopkins will be livid

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National are so out of touch that the Greens get the air time.

Young people with zero chance of owning a home must look at National and think "What the f**k?". They just want change an know they wont get that with National.

What would you do if you were 25 years old with $10k in the bank? 

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Regret the money I wasted on motorbikes and chasing women.   Then smile, and get on with life.

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What would you do if you were 25 years old with $10k in the bank? 

Vote TOP.

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Everyone should vote TOP.

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$10k in the bank and $100k of student loans and 0% chance of owning a home or affording a family.

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Buy a one-way ticket to Aussie or Europe and start afresh. Those countries are in no way perfect, but their economic systems aren't as small and unsophisticated as ours for the average worker to be impacted by every policy move coming out of the central bureaucracy.

No shortage of opportunities for both career advancement and affordable living for those willing to venture outside the popular OE destinations (London, Paris, Sydney, etc.).

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James Shaw should despair, if hasn’t already

Right on Marima ruins it for Greens again

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Shaw is wasting his political appeal by associating himself with those far-left loonies. He has held on to his high approval ratings from 2020 among businesses being ranked #2 ranked in the Mood of the Boardroom 2022 survey behind Seymour.

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Still waiting for reporters to track down the so called motorcyclists who bowled her for her to then rant about cis white male. Let's see what the ethnicity is of the so called mororcyclists

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I thought it was established that it was a Māori guy on that motorbike and he was from the destiny church. That is why the whites guy violence thing was so ironic since she just emerged from being run down by a guy that was not white.

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You don’t need to scratch the skin too deep to get a fix on the personality beneath. Last election, the voting boxes not even stashed away, the female co-leader blurted out that she expected to be in cabinet. Never mind that the electorate had arranged the fact that Labour didn’t even need them to form a government.Sums up the priorities, naked ambition for oneself doesn’t it.

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I heard that too but only thru the grapevine you would have thought our great truthful get the facts crush disinformation media would have informed us by now.

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I remember a video of the incident early on and appeared that the grapevine could be correct.

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Labour may consider a government with ACT is a better option than Greens/TMP. Be better for NZ than the nutters from Greens and TMP

 

Or is now the time for a serious discussion with TOP re Ilam electorate.

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Yes, if you are an Ilam (which sadly I am not any more) then it would be in your best interests to vote for Raf Manji even if it is just to afford another potential coalition partner that is a bit - actually a lot - more sensible and serious. 

I've written here before that I disagree with some of TOP's proposed tax changes but I'd still give Raf my electorate vote if I could. 

I don't see any chance of TOP getting above 5% in party vote, in fact it seems they have given up on it too, but Ilam could be in play.

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Why do people think that Labour and TOP would coalesce?

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It would give National a potential 3rd coalition partner as well ... I don't see how having another party that could possibly work with both National or Labour could be a bad thing (considering that Greens & TPM will only ever work with Labour and Act will only ever work with National)

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Oh, I agree. Just find it interesting the suggestion that TOP would fit with Labour. 

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Would certainly improve Labour. Do a deal for the land tax then act as a voice of reason inside cabinet.

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Raf has said that as a new party they intend to sit on the cross benches and not request or accept ministerial positions.

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Call it the Seymour effect - his party 10x'd its seats from sitting on the crossbench in one term after 3 terms in coalition.

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Makes sense - if you want to work with either side, don't want to tether yourself to one horse

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TOP will fit with any party that will consider supporting and implementing their policies.

The Teal Card could be picked up by left or right, with some tweaks easily enough.

The LVT is inherently more of a left-wing policy simply by dint of the right-wing in this country only ever considering tax cuts when it comes to taxation and never tax increases, especially not an asset tax.

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Labour to come out with a Land Tax proposal closer to the election. As Loosehead Len always states, "you saw it here first"

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I thought when Jeanette Fitzsimmons won Coromandel and carried the Greens into parliament that this was a good omen for MMP bringing diversification and accountability to NZ’s political arena. It was exactly why I voted for MMP, arising from the shenanigans of Muldoon’s political death throes. Teal wasn’t a term in vogue then but, as it is applied now, it is how I perhaps naively thought how valuably a well structured, balanced and independent party of this direction would play out.  Not so though. 

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One could look at it in this way:

What's good for the goose is good for the gander

As Queen Victoria was given first right of refusal in Article 2 of the Treaty.

But, yeah, there's also the argument that, that was then and this is now.

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"But, yeah, there's also the argument that, that was then and this is now."

This to me is the crux of the situation.

The Treaty (I use English because it was of English concept and design) has never been amended, updated, or otherwise changed since writing, and was never meant to act as a Constitution (otherwise it would have been titled as such.)

We fail to agree on what the Treaty meant at the time it was signed. Yet here we are 150 years later trying to prescribe meaning and context across every facet of modern life, using a scrap of paper with a mere three articles that wasn't even ratified by most of the Iwi/Hapu/Rohe present in NZ at the time (incuding my own).

Society, Culture, and beliefs all change over time. In order to progress as a Nation we need to stop treating the Treaty with something akin to a religous fervour, and acknolwedge that it simply isn't fit for purpose.

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There it is, exactly.

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Careful with that blasphemous talk. You will be prosecuted and hung by the court of MSM. Seriously, I fail to see how our legal system has derived "principals" and partnership from this document. The major issue being that we "the people" have never had an opportunity to define what these should be in a modern multicultural and democratic society. Hence vote ACT for an open discussion for the path forward.

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Yes, and Key's government tried to embark on constitutional reform which has since gone nowhere.  Plenty of reports/documents - no progress.  Hence, the Courts fill in the blanks;

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/476286/peter-ellis-supreme-court-decision-reaffirms-tikanga-relevance-to-legal-framework

 

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No one actually takes the Greens seriously.. do they? 

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Anyone who doesn't take the Greens seriously, given they have a good shot at being in cabinet after this election, is foolish.

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To be in cabinet will likely require a formal coalition agreement, rather than the historic confidence and supply agreements.

This is something that I think many of the current Green members would struggle with.

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Which is what they had last term. Only 2 new mps since then , i think?

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I haven't read the manifesto , but i would say this is not meant to apply to all property sales.

I would think they are meaning land , that was once Maori owned, and has some relevance to Maori. Urapas , pa sites etc. 

And it is to purchase, not confiscate.

Unfortunately, been a small party with limited resources, some less than clear / desirable stuff will slip through. I remember Paul Holmes ambushing Jeanette Fitzsimons on the parties witchcraft policy. she clearly had no idea it existed.

I do think they have gone overboard in this regard , and should  leave it to TPM. but again , i have not been able to read the manifesto.

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Ok , found it and here is the actual wording.

"Facilitate the return of whenua that was wrongfully alienated from tangata whenua, including through exploring a right of first refusal process that enables the return of private land to iwi, hapū and whānau at point of sale. 

"wrongfully alienated" , rather than all land per se. 

i would also note it is one paragraph on page 37 of a 42 page document.Which starts with children and climate change. Around 15 of the 42 headings are environment related.  

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Maori believe all land was "wrongfully alienated".  So I wouldnt hang my hat on that definition.

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With respect to your second paragraph, is there an existing list of land that fits these criteria? 

What I suspect concerns many (myself included) is the thought that your property is suddenly declared as being a site of cultural/historical significance, but you had no idea at the time when you purchased the property.

 

 

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No. And there will be no unanimous agreement either. I mean this is ultimately the issue with a tribal, migratory society clashing with a 'settled' one. Land claims and ownership are murky.

Having been involved in the settling of these land claims in the past, the biggest issue to me with this particular aspect is that there is a very large gulf between what the Crown historian usually comes to the table with as what the alienated pieces of land are, and what the tribe lodging the claim does.

Like I'm talking 98% difference in land area. It's gonna be so murky. Of course the individual doesn't have the resources the crown does, so when they attempt to dispute this and sell on the open market, they won't be able to afford the several hundred thousand of legal fees to successfully combat it. And the iwi will have economies of scale in this regard, able to make arguments and produce economic and historical evidence applied over a whole area rather than just the individual property.

 

Finally 'wrongfully alienated' is so ambiguous. See my first point. What would be considered as a fair and reasonable arms length transaction to an outside observer could be considered by the tribal descendants as wrongful alienation with the full benefit of hindsight. This is in fact one of the primary reasons for the treaty, as the same piece of land often got sold multiple times. 

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"wrongful alienation with the full benefit of hindsight"

Yes, hindsight is a major problem. It shouldn't factor in at all, but it will be impossible to eliminate it's effects entirely.

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I don't know. The likes of Ihumātao spring to mind. Local historians or Iwi could probably tell you.

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Find a policeman to enforce that law. The white majority shouldn't be subject to these humiliation.

I already despise this state as a total oppressor, which does very little for ordinary people relative to its immense cost in tax and ideological adherence demands. The legitimacy of the state and its supportive appendages (legacy media, NGOs, thinktanks, universities etc) is increasingly worn thin. I suspect a very large population within this country are increasingly enraged at these entitled parasites.

We are never asked about these radical agendas, they are always imposed on us secretly and quietly. Whether it is the mass censorship, the radical racial agenda, the growth of the police state beneath the current Left government harassing all sorts of political enemies of the regime. We deserve better.

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Must be abhorrent for those who vote labour only to get the lunatic greens as partners in govt 

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That is why they want 16yr olds to have the vote cause they are seeing a drop off of support as more people realise how incompetent and backwards they really are. 16yr olds are more easily lead.

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I was 16 once, and one of those "tragics" at school who was too into politics. I shudder when I think about some of my former beliefs. I would have been right in the Green Party's target demographic as an impressionable high schooler.

 

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Same lol. And I voted for them in my first election at 18! Then I went and got myself a BCom (Economics), BA (Political Science), MCom (Economics). Now I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

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Isn't that most 16yr olds totally against what their parents stand for but can't see pass next week. At 18 I voted for legalize weed party. Never mind apart from that they didn't have a clue about anything else but cause my parents were stoic run of the mill. So yeah you can see why these f...wits want the age lowered

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But, think about that - had we legalized that herb way back then how much money and time our police/justice system would have saved in being able to forget about prosecuting people over a plant.  And just think how much less revenue the dealers selling it on the black market would have been made - and how many people's lives wouldn't have been impacted for life by a prison record for possession, sale or growing a weed?

My opinion is, Colin, you were spot on right in your younger days.  Oddly enough, I find younger people much more practical than many adults in terms of political issues/opinions, as they haven't yet learned to 'follow' a single ideology.

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Kate you should try to apply your intellect to that direction. Consider the amount of money saved if cannabis had been legal, and the quality of our Governments, what and where do you think the politicians would have redirected those funds to, based on their actual actions, not some fanciful Utopian possibility? I suggested they'd have found another place to waste them.

Plus consider now that cannabis has been legal for quite some time now in places like the US and the science has been emerging for a while now as to just how harmful it is. Do you still think it should be legalised?

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Lawyers plead, and judges usually agree, that typical adolescents, sixteen year olds or so, have arguable means of defence due to cognitive immaturity and so on. On that basis would suggest that those that propose they are qualified to vote have even more cognitive immaturity.

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Could we please have a party that only concerns itself with the environment and works with whomever is in power? It would drive this lot to irrelevance instantly. 

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What about all the 'wrongful alienation' that occurred before the Europeans arrived?

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Why do they still call themselves the Greens, environmental issues are such a tiny part of this parties innuendo. The are so far left you could mistake them for fascism.

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The Greens are hamstrung by the necessity of having to dream up ludicrous outrageous and ridiculous policies pies in the sky just to be different.

Attention seekers

Interesting too James Cameron of Titanic (Olympic) notoriety

Made a $50,000 donation to the Greens coffers

What's His game?

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He's a vegan, ideological, part-time organic farmer.

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