The New Year is bringing higher interest rates for borrowers - but what about savers?
This review looks at rates available now in 2017 for term deposit savers. (You can find an assessment of 2016 for term deposit savers here.)
There are some regulator-imposed benefits for banks if they fund their lending activity with longer maturities, and a large source of such funding are household deposits which tend to have very short commitments. This is a prime prospect pool.
But the more important issue for banks is cost. Wholesale suppliers of funds not only want the highest yield they can get, borrowing in these markets comes with fees, and they can be substantial (which is what merchant and investment banks who do these deals live off).
Market benchmarks like UST and NZGB yields underpin the wholesale rates, and are noticed here more directly in the interest rate swap rates. On top of this, banks must pay spreads and fees. A proxy for the spreads involved are the corporate CDS spreads, which we monitor here. (These are fairly low at present.)
These are the wholesale cost benchmarks that banks use to assess whether to seek funds from depositors, and the price they are prepared to offer. Borrower loan demand has its part to play as well, and at times is a critical factor.
Because the wholesale benchmarks are rising*, what banks are offering are rising as well.
You will notice in the table below that rates are relatively attractive for terms of nine months or so. Such funds don't become useful for banks until they have a fixed duration of at least 1 year (in their Core Funding obligation). So winning your deposit commitment now gives them the chance to get you to roll it over for a slightly longer period, one that suits them better. The flicking of attractive rates between 9 months up to terms of 15, 18, even 24 months is what the bank professionals working with pricing their 'liabilities' are all about.
Unfortunately for them, each bank has a slightly different maturity profile, so a saver with term deposits will often have an interesting matrix of rates to assess.
The key thing for savers to do is be prepared to switch between banks. (And it can be wise to get established at a few of them in advance, just so the switch at decision time goes easily.)
The other key thing is to negotiate. We often hear that +0.05% is there just for the asking, and maybe more if you negotiate with a bank especially keen to win business at that time. (It may not be there for a 'smallish amount', or a bank who has their funding needs up-to-date.) You should ask, and you should check around. Our rate pages are a good place to help decide a short-list.
The other thing to note in the table below is the appearance again of 4%+ rates, and outside the banks, even 5%+ rates (even for investment grade institutions).
As we have earlier noted, savers may wish to think through the wisdom of locking up of funds for longer terms in what seems to be a turning rate environment. This situation should have savers thinking through the risk/reward scenarios.
Use our deposit calculator to figure exactly how much benefit each option is worth; you can assess the value of more or less frequent interest payment terms, and the PIE products, comparing two situations side by side.
All carded, or advertised, term deposit rates for all institutions for terms less than one year are here, and for terms one-to-five years are here.
For savers rolling over a term deposit in the next week or two, here are approximately what you are rolling off:
for a $25,000 deposit | 3/4 mths | 5/6 mths | 8/9 mths | 1 yr | 18 mths | 2 yrs | 3 yrs | |
% | % | % | % | % | % | % | ||
Average rate | 2.78 | 3.32 | 3.40 | 3.49 | 3.54 | 4.72 | 4.78 | |
Maximum rate | 3.60 | 3.70 | 3.75 | 3.80 | 3.90 | 5.00 | 5.05 |
Basically, you are facing lower rates now especially if you had a market-leading rate the last time, even though recent trends have seen rates rising slightly.
The latest headline rate offers are in this table.
for a $25,000 deposit | Rating | 3/4 mths | 5/6 mths | 8/9 mths | 1 yr | 18 mths | 2 yrs | 3 yrs |
Main banks | ||||||||
AA- | 3.00 | 3.35 | 3.60 | 3.35 | 3.60 | 3.70 | 3.80 | |
AA- | 3.00 | 3.20 | 3.60 | 3.20 | 3.50 | 3.65 | 3.80 | |
AA- | 3.00 | 3.30 | 3.60 | 3.25 | 3.50 | 3.75 | 3.50 | |
Kiwibank | A+ | 3.00 | 3.10 | 3.20 | 3.35 | 3.40 | 3.60 | |
AA- | 3.15 | 3.20 | 3.10 | 3.40 | 3.20 | 3.70 | 3.50 | |
Other banks | ||||||||
BBB | 2.95 | 3.40 | 3.50 | 3.50 | 3.65 | 3.75 | 3.85 | |
BBB | 3.10 | 3.30 | 3.70 | 3.40 | 3.40 | 3.40 | 3.70 | |
HSBC Premier | AA- | 2.55 | 2.90 | 2.90 | 2.90 | 2.90 | 2.95 | |
ICBC | A | 3.05 | 3.35 | 3.65 | 3.45 | 3.65 | 3.75 | 3.85 |
A | 2.85 | 3.50 | 3.35 | 3.40 | 3.40 | 3.45 | 3.80 | |
BBB | 2.75 | 3.55 | 3.60 | 3.60 | 3.70 | 3.80 | 4.00 | |
A- | 3.00 | 3.30 | 3.75 | 3.50 | 3.70 | 3.80 | 4.00 | |
Selected fincos | ||||||||
F&P Finance | BB* | 3.10 | 3.80 | 4.00 | 4.10 | 4.15 | 4.25 | 4.35 |
BBB | 3.40 | 3.95 | 4.15 | 4.65 | 4.85 | 5.00 | 5.40 | |
A- | 3.00 | 3.35 | 3.60 | 3.60 | 3.65 | 3.50 | 3.50 | |
* = the only credit rating in this review that is not investment grade. |
Our unique term deposit calculator can help quantify what each offer will net you.
* True if you look over the past six months or so. But in the few trading days of 2017 these have been noticeably soft.
23 Comments
Good work David thanks, but I was a bit surprised by the comment:" Such funds don't become useful for banks until they have a fixed duration of at least 1 year".
As I understand it, deposits with residual maturity less than or equal to one year, are not ignored:- they simply carry less weighting than deposits of 1 year which carry a 100% weighting for the purposes of calculating the Core Funding Ratio
In the RBNZ's Liquidity policy, the weighting to deposits of less than $5M is specified at 90%.
Only for deposits of greater than $50M does the statement seem applicable.
Of course, it is still true that a term deposit of more than 1 year is more useful to the bank than an on-call deposit.
I would be happy to be corrected.
As we have earlier noted, savers may wish to think through the wisdom of locking up of funds for longer terms in what seems to be a turning rate environment. This situation should have savers thinking through the risk/reward scenarios.
Indeed!!!!
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You really spoilt my day - reminding me of the existence of MF Global
Not a happy time for me
In a recent article in the NY Times Goldman Sachs are currently lobbying congress to allow them to use retail banking client deposits as collateral for their proprietary merchant trading
The tide was always going to turn ..... eventually., and maybe we will get some sense of normality with interest rates in the next few years
Savers have been punished for too long for being thrifty and careful , and its wrong on every level .
This is but a small step in the right direction
Here's one for the 90 at Nine tomorrow morning ...........Reuters has reported that at the close of business on Friday :-
"Oil prices fall on doubts over Opec production cut compliance"
It did not take long............... just 39 days since the agreement was signed on 30 November
Could they not wait for the ink to dry on the 30 November agreement before they started cheating on each other ?
It was almost inevitable that someone would start cheating and upset the apple-cart .
OPEC as a cartel is doomed because of a combination of greed , mistrust and self interest of its members , and this is all layered with the fact that the US is now a major producer itself , so OPEC does not hold sway as it did previously .
I find banks I use, treat savers poorly, compared to people they lend to. When they drop the oncall savings rate, many banks I find don't even tell you. They don't have a newsletter that you can sign up to be informed of the drop, which would be basic to setup. yet they do often have this service for people they loan money to. I even asked a bank if they had such a notification system, and they said they didn't, but it was a good idea and they would look into it...crickets
So I rely on interest.co.nz to keep me up to date with the interest rate changes across the banks.
maybe some emphasis on return of your money and risk profile would be relevant,a bank with a BBB rating as opposed to one with AA are a world apart.finance companies range from A down to SFA but are still taking deposits and the returns offered dont reflect the huge gamble you could be taking.
The ills of unbridled consumption on which the western economies are mainly based are well known, aren't they ? Not to say that curbing consumption would be the idea of this move.
And why can't we expect the savers to spend some of the savings from such tax exemption ? Isn't reduced taxes a way of boosting consumption ?
The government should most certainly seriously consider it, but that is not to say that they should actually do it. That consideration should include the following:
Savers are already rewarded for their efforts - their saving results in the fact that they now have savings. That is a private benefit, not a public benefit.
What is the public interest in encouraging people to enrich themselves when they already have every incentive to do so anyway?
What is the public interest in boosting private savings?
What would such an exemption cost in lost tax revenue, and how would that shortfall be addressed - higher taxation elsewhere, or less expenditure?
Savings by private individuals in banks do not serve the public interest ? News to me and to many economists, central bankers and banks themselves, I am sure. Not to mention Governments. Many countries co-opt the Bank deposits to some designated percentage (paying interest and ensuring capital adequacy) and use the funds for infrastructure, etc.
Part of the interest you get from bank deposits is inflated away through government policy - so you get no benefit from it. However, the government taxes this loss, as part of the total interest gained. So the tax you are paying is effectively often over 50%. This is one reason why it is far more sensible in this country to invest in the effectively tax-exempt and tax-friendly property market.
So (in a rational world) the government should only tax the after-inflation component of the interest. This would be an alternative to what you are proposing, and might avoid some of the inequities and gaming that would occur through your proposal.
perhaps they should tax the capital gain on housing and incentivise people to invest in job creation businesses and activities which would benefit society as a whole.
Choosing to save in bank deposits (i admit to having several term deposits as part of my investment portfolio) is a personal choice, you could invest the same money in shares (some risk involved) and gain the same or higher return via dividends. both the saving interest and dividends are taxable of course.
Investing in businesses that make things or provide value added services is usually (not always) more beneficial to society than simply putting your money in a bank for them to lend out to speculators at a margin.
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