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Tuesday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: China's property crackdown; Roubini on why QE II won't help the US much; The Eurozone meltdown report; Hubbard's strange Helicopters deal; Dilbert

Tuesday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: China's property crackdown; Roubini on why QE II won't help the US much; The Eurozone meltdown report; Hubbard's strange Helicopters deal; Dilbert
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Here are my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10 to 2 pm, brought to you in association with New Zealand Mint for your reading pleasure.

I welcome your additions and comments below, or please send suggestions for Wednesday's Top 10 at 10 via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz.

I'll pop any surplus suggestions I get into the comment stream.

1. That's how you do it - Bloomberg reports that China’s four biggest state banks will not issue any new loans to property developers for the remainder of the year.

That should do the trick. Just imagine if that's how New Zealand ran its monetary policy.

Alan Bollard would call Allan Hubbard and tell him to take a break for a while..."Go for a holiday Allan," Alan would say.

He would then call in the big four bank CEOs to a conference room and then lock the door, making sure they had handed over their phones. They would be ok with some club sandwiches and a couple of bottles of water.

Then John Key would ring up Michael Cullen and tell him to pull Kiwibank's head in.

Bill English would issue a decree that property sales faced a special land tax. Press release would do the trick.

Problem solved...

Here's Bloomberg on the Chinese way of doing things.

Industrial & Commercial Bank of China Ltd.,China Construction Bank Corp,Bank of China Ltd. and Agricultural Bank of China Ltd., had met their allotted loan targets for the year, according to a copy of a report e-mailed to Bloomberg News by the newspaper yesterday.

Approvals of new loans had ceased since the end of October, the newspaper said. China’s property prices rose at the slowest pace in 10 months in October after the government raised interest rates and expanded measures to limit the risk of asset bubbles in the world’s fastest-growing major economy. Measures to ease gains in prices included suspending mortgages for third-home purchases and a pledge to speed up trials of property taxes.

Policy makers may introduce more measures in the fourth quarter amid signs of a price recovery, according to Nomura Securities Co. The likely policies include a property tax and the enforcement of the so-called land added-value levy in the “overheated cities,” Citic said.  

2. A whirlybird of money - South Canterbury Finance's major Helicopters (NZ) transaction in February is coming under further scrutiny, with Stuff's Chalkie finding the transaction was worth a small fraction of the NZ$152.5m in new capital Sandy Maier claimed at the time. The fraction being about NZ$10 million.

This follows David Hillary's analysis of the transaction in June on his Lost Soul blog.

Watch this space on the regulatory front. . The SFO are already investigating various related party transactions around South Canterbury.

There could be more to come.

3. It's all on now - The WSJ reports that Portugal's Foreign Minister is now openly talking about the possibility that Portugal may be forced out or opt out of the euro as the scale of its debt problems weigh it down. The threat of contagion and euro collapse is not as remote as it once was.

In an interview with the Portuguese weekly Expresso published Saturday, Foreign Affairs Minister Luis Amado said Portugal faces "a scenario of exit from the euro zone" if it fails to tackle its economic challenges.

"There has to be an effort by all political groups, by the institutions, to understand the gravity of the situation we're facing," he said. Portugal is now the front line of the sovereign-debt crisis that already has claimed Greece and threatens Ireland, economists say. If economic weakness is sufficient to push an otherwise crisis-free country to the brink of default and rescue, then larger countries, such as Spain and Italy, could be threatened, analysts say.

"Portugal is different, and if markets are going to have a real go at Portugal now, then why not Italy?" says Jonathan Loynes, economist at Capital Economics.  

4. Here's what some real Americans are saying - My wife sells digital designs to American Moms and watches what they talk about on their messageboards.

It has taken an ominious turn in recent weeks as people in middle America start worrying about inflation as petrol (gas) prices rise and food prices rise. HT My wife.

Here's a sample at Twopeasinabucket:

what do you all think about the prediction that the American dollar will be so bad in the next year to two that inflation will be HUGE, resulting in prices like, $11 per ear of corn, $80 for a pound of coffee, etc... I'm hearing these rumors and recommendations to start stocking up on food now... thoughts?

5. Mish's beating drums - Mish from Global Economic Analysis has done a big piece on Australian house prices to stir up all those foreign investors in Australian banks again. This is not going away in a hurry. He says Australia is partied out.

In an act of desperation, the “Big Four” bar owners finally raised prices even more than the wholesale liqueur distributor. They did this after becoming worried about the consequences of drunks passing out on the floor, in the street, and in the outback, unable to pay their "bar tabs". Note that bar tab paying is the only real concern of the bar owners, not the mess in the streets or the outback.

Unfortunately, the actions of the distributor and the bar owners came far too late for a quiet end to the party. After singing the wildly popular hit tune "It's Different Here" at the top of their lungs more times than there are kangaroos in the outback, the party goers finally passed out in the streets and the outback in drunken stupor. "It's Different Here" was written by the vocal group R.E. Agents.

Historians will note that exhaustion from drinking, singing, and spending money they did not have ultimately did the party goers in, not excessive price hikes as currently reported in the media and by the government sponsors of the street party, all hoping to place the blame elsewhere.

6. Global Debt Clock - This global public debt clock from The Economist is a cracker and well worth a read and a favourite.

The clock is ticking. Every second, it seems, someone in the world takes on more debt. The idea of a debt clock for an individual nation is familiar to anyone who has been to Times Square in New York, where the American public shortfall is revealed.

Our clock shows the global figure for all (or almost all) government debts in dollar terms. Does it matter? After all, world governments owe the money to their own citizens, not to the Martians. But the rising total is important for two reasons. First, when debt rises faster than economic output (as it has been doing in recent years), higher government debt implies more state interference in the economy and higher taxes in the future. Second, debt must be rolled over at regular intervals.

This creates a recurring popularity test for individual governments, rather as reality TV show contestants face a public phone vote every week. Fail that vote, as the Greek government did in early 2010, and the country can be plunged into imminent crisis. So the higher the global government debt total, the greater the risk of fiscal crisis, and the bigger the economic impact such crises will have.

7. The A$55 million woman - The Sydney Morning Herald has gone to town on Westpac CEO Gail Kelly's salary package in a piece titled "The A$55 million woman" and a "CEO package fit for a Queen."

The media in Australia sure know how to make hay out of banks being unpopular. The numbers in Westpac's annual report are painful from a customer and shareholder point of view, particularly in the wake of a rash of rate hikes that were bigger than the RBA's hikes.

Here's a taste of what's in the air over the Tasman.

GAIL KELLY is poised to become the $55 million queen of banking if Westpac shareholders give their blessing to another round of long-term share incentives for the bank's chief executive.Based on Westpac's closing share price of $21.92, Mrs Kelly could be worth just in excess of $52 million once she meets performance targets under the bank's incentive plan.

Of that amount, $28.5 million of equity came her way as part of her sign-on deal when she quit her previous employer, St George Bank, mid-way through 2007 to join Westpac in February 2008. She has since become entitled to more than $23 million worth of share options and performance rights, although these remain off limits to her for a few more years under the bank's long-term incentive clauses.  

8. Bigger than America by 2020? - Standard Chartered has forecast that China's economy could be bigger than America's by 2020 at current growth rates (or recession rates from a US point of view). That's earlier than the 2027 that Goldman Sachs has forecast and frankly unbelievable given the relative sizes othe economies right now.

But even a couple of years most people were saying it would take China until 2045 to catch up.

Just imagine a world where China was bigger than America within 10 years. Hold on to your hats.

America's GDP is currently about 3 times that of China's.

But here's what Standard Chartered are saying

CHINA will overtake the US to become the world's largest economy by 2020, according to Standard Chartered. ''We believe that the world is in a super-cycle of sustained high growth,'' economists led by Gerard Lyons said in a report published yesterday.

''The scale of change over the next 20 years will be enormous.'' China's economy will be twice as large as the US's by 2030 and account for 24 per cent of global output, up from 9 per cent today, Mr Lyons said.

India will surpass Japan to be the third-largest economy in the next decade, according to the report. Goldman Sachs Group estimates China will overtake the US by 2027.  

9. What Roubini thinks of QE II - Nouriel Roubini points out why QE II won't boost the US economy much. The banks won't lend it out and other countries won't allow the US dollar to devalue much.

He points out that eventually kicking the debt can down the road doesn't work. There is no one from Mars to bail out the IMF or the Eurozone... He sees QE III and QE IV and QE V eventually.

Here's the full interview above on CNBC that's worth watching.

10. Broad opposition -  A bunch of high powered economists have come out in a letter to the WSJ calling on Fed Chair Ben Bernanke to abandon QE II. Nuff said really.

We believe the Federal Reserve’s large-scale asset purchase plan (so-called “quantitative easing”) should be reconsidered and discontinued. We do not believe such a plan is necessary or advisable under current circumstances. The planned asset purchases risk currency debasement and inflation, and we do not think they will achieve the Fed’s objective of promoting employment.

We subscribe to your statement in the Washington Post on November 4 that “the Federal Reserve cannot solve all the economy’s problems on its own.”

In this case, we think improvements in tax, spending and regulatory policies must take precedence in a national growth program, not further monetary stimulus. We disagree with the view that inflation needs to be pushed higher, and worry that another round of asset purchases, with interest rates still near zero over a year into the recovery, will distort financial markets and greatly complicate future Fed efforts to normalize monetary policy.

The Fed’s purchase program has also met broad opposition from other central banks and we share their concerns that quantitative easing by the Fed is neither warranted nor helpful in addressing either U.S. or global economic problems.  

And here's a useful interactive graphic from Reuters showing how ineffective QE II has been at reducing long term US interest rates and how effective it was at blowing up commodity prices and devaluing the US dollar.

11. Totally irrelevant video - Jon Stewart does his thing on George Bush's book.

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If people believe there will be inflation soon...then its already too late. The psychology of inflation has already taken root. The genie is out of the bottle.

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Then interest rates rise the markets tank and we go into deflationary spiral as assets prices across the western world collapse.

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Too Late. Asset price will tank regardless of intervention. Assets are just not as important as commodities now...especial when the us has over 30+ years of housing inventory. The only thing to save the USD  is its reserve currency status.  Without that...its hyperinflation land.

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FYI

Bridgecorp's Australian debenture holders, including former Aussie cricketer Craig McDermott are grumpy too.

Debenture holders in Bridgecorp Finance have received the first and possibly last snippet of good news since the Rod Petricevic-headed property finance group went belly up more than three years ago.

The corporate undertaker BRI Ferrier, in its latest update to Bridgecorp Finance's 770 secured debenture holders, has proposed to return them a 5.59¢ dividend in the dollar.

http://www.businessday.com.au/business/receivers-greeting-may-be-hi-and-bye-20101115-17ucs.html

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Gerard Lyons is also a committee member of the Hong Kong Association and although based in London spends a great deal of his time in ASIA.....so no axe to grind there eh...

He also does a fantastic impression of Don Brash in his spare time....

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S+P predict US house prices will fall further 7-10% in 2011

http://www.housingwire.com/2010/11/15/sp-predicts-more-home-price-decli…

 

I think falls of that magnitude are already a given - the question is by how much more will they be exceeded.

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@andyh

 

Well if hyperinflation kicks in next year, you might be able to buy a house for a few trinkets and some beads!!

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FYI from WSJ

Is Gold a bubble?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527487047921045752648630695657…

HT Troy

cheers

Bernard

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Here's Don Brash arguing back at Fran O'Sullivan on 'statism'

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10687797

I agree with Brash we need to be saving more. I don't agree with him that pure free markets will do the trick.

cheers

Bernard

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An excellent repost by Don Brash , and a slap in the face for those silly buggers who advocate more central planning . Our friends in Singapore earn bucket loads of munny ; sadly however , they are highly stressed in their job demands and gruellingly long hours ........... and after 12-15 hours of toil ,  they go back to the 9'th floor of the 15 storey apartment block they inhabit............ along with several thousand others . A good model for NZ to copy , Bernard ? I think not !

He doesn't say that " pure markets will do the trick " , Bernard . You are guilty of seeing only that which agrees with your view point ! Dr Brash does say that the free market , although far from perfect , is the best mechanism to deliver innovation , growth , improvement to the populances' lives .

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Yet we all know it's bullshit Gummy.... and what are you doing out of the hammock at this hour?

The is no such thing as a 'free market' anywhere on the bloody planet...never has been...never will be.

Every market is regulated and or manipulated by various bastards for their own gain in every country using the pollys to do the donkey work because that lot hope to keep their snouts in the taxpayer trough as long as possible. 

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I agree with that one Wolly - a system rotten to the core ! - result  - "Patchwork economy"

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Been off-line for an hour or so , Wolly .........Pulis shut the telephone system down , whilst they busted one of the neighbours . A whole kg. of cocaine , worth 15 m. pesos . Guess that'd be $NZ 450 000 or so . That sound right , Wolly ......... what do you pay for your shit , about the same ?

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Grows wild here Gummy...Possums fall out of the trees....big warning that, the phone going down!...

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How are the green free market tomatoes doing Roger - growing up red - shi. ?

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FYI

Bloomberg reports that a run has started by corporate clients of Irish banks.

Corporate clients have pulled deposits from lenders including the country’s biggest, Bank of Ireland Plc.

With its lenders frozen out of Europe’s money markets and with their deposits shrinking, the Irish government may be forced to seek the bailout ministers have so far resisted.

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aNxTV9z08i5o

cheers

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I'm glad that you provided the full interview with Roubini, since your introduction by itself might have left readers with the impression that he thinks QE is a bad idea. Here's the part that you didn't mention, starting at around 10:22 -

"I think the only way to think about avoiding significant deflation risk is doing more agressive quantitative easing. That's the lesson of Japan - they did not do QE agressively enough. Once expectation of deflation became entrenched, then you end up in a liquidity trap where people are not spending because they belief prices are going to fall. If they are not spending prices fall even further... You have to consider the short term from the longer term. In the short term there is no alternative to avoiding a double dip and deflation than dong more QE. Of course you have to do other policies as well, but you need to do it."

Also, on the subject of what real Americans are saying, here's another one to add to your collection -

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB200014240527487046582045756110524189396…

(And in case it's not clear, I'm not trying to defend the Fed - just trying to hear all sides of the argument)

markmthomson.net

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 "We don't know how deep this sewer is, and it really is a sewer."

 http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article24308.html

 "Whenever times are tough, the first thing America always talks about is protectionist barriers. We, the great free traders, are free traders only as long as it works our way."

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Absolutely - how can a “free market” productive economy work successfully, when there are not sufficient instruments available to work with ? Entrepreneurial skill needs to be developed and tested. The talented and skilful have to stay here in New Zealand – neither is the case - a part from some rare success stories.

 Because of increasing turbulences/ competition in many sectors - internationally “free markets” fail without the planning involvement of some sort by the government.

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No worries everyone, Mr McCarten and Mr Harawira have the answers:

"Maverick Maori MP Hone Harawira is backing Mana by-election candidate Matt McCarten.

McCarten says he wants to abolish GST, put 3000 unemployed in the area in work and raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

''We are planning to do an action at one of the supermarkets on GST and then a talk,'' a spokesman for  McCarten said.

''On things like abolishing GST we are very close with Hone.''

McCarten has collected more than 9000 signatures on a petition to raise the minimum wage".

So exactly how do they plan to fund the abolishment of GST?

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No worries GG....like all socialists he has no intention of doing any such thing...he just "wants to abolish gst".....and he just "wants to put 3000 in the area in work"...blah blah blah.....

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$ 15 / hour ? Peanuts ! Make it a $ 30 / hour minimum wage , so that everyone can be a rich prick . Geeeeez , being a politician is so peasy peasy ; just grant the proletariat any damn fool thing that they want .

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Easy to find from campaign

"#3. Taxes. 
The burden of paying the bills has dramatically shifted to the from the asset wealthy and high incomes to the middle and low income New Zealanders. GST is one of those taxes. Labour weak response is disappointing. I will release an alternative tax policy in the campaign to start the discussion off. Frankly GST has to go and an alternative like the Financial Transaction Tax (now enjoying popular support overseas as the Robin Hood tax) is fairer and more efficient."

http://unityaotearoa.blogspot.com/2010/10/mana-campaign-introduction-by…

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Maybe if people didn't have to pay so much for everything, including basic stuff, the govt could stop all welfare payments/ hand-outs? That'd make a pretty good saving I reckon, although I haven't made any scientific calculations or research to work out whether it'd balance out the removal of GST.

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Youve got it backwards!. Remove benefits, increase minimum wage to compensate and not only will many prices go down we would save billions as a country and have some dignity back. No more DPB, no more WFF, UB maximum of 6 months other a 3year period!

Ohh.. and higher GST on luxury goods like 'boats' swimming pools, spas, etc make exceptions for luxuries used for business purposes

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Could you elaborate?

- Why "will many prices go down"?

- Why "higher GST on luxury goods"? After all, those people buying them have probably already paid higher than average taxes.

Thanks.

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Justice -

Might have to build a prison or three, though   :)

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FYI South Korea raises rates to fend off inflation...

The Fed is blowing bubbles in other economies. Talk about collateral damage

South Korea's central bank raised its key interest rate Tuesday for the second time in four months amid persistent concerns about inflation.

The Bank of Korea announced that it lifted the benchmark seven-day repurchase rate to 2.5 percent from 2.25 percent at a monthly monetary policy meeting.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/11/15/business/global/AP-AS-SKorea-Interest-Rate.html?_r=2&src=busln
 

cheers

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FYI North Korea raises salutes to fend off reality ...

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FYI from Roelof via email. Interesting Greg Ip piece on why the QE II creates bubbles, but not necessarily inflation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/12/AR20101…

cheers

Bernard

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This is an excellent summary of Ireland's big problems from Robert Peston at the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/11/will_the_e…

Few deny that the Irish state has borrowed far more than it can afford to repay in the form of bank debt, public-sector debt, household debt and corporate debt.

There are going to have to be haircuts and write-offs, big losses, as the debt is shrunk to an affordable size.

The seemingly open question is how those write-offs, those losses, will be shared between Irish taxpayers, European taxpayers and commercial lenders.

Right now, which some will see as unfair, the burden seems to be falling on taxpayers, with the commercial lenders apparently getting off very lightly indeed.

cheers

Bernard

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But but Bernard...isn't the point here that the country cannot even finance the cost of the debt burden...that there is no way of ever paying off the loans....and with every fiscal chop they lose a greater amount in falling revenue....Ireland is shrinking..... smaller and smaller until it becomes a black hole......Noddyland is racing to catch up!

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The Palin echo chamber

 

Sarah Palin says "Everyone who ever goes out shopping for groceries knows that prices have risen significantly over the past year or so. Pump priming would push them even higher."

WSJ's Sudeep Reddy calls her on it, backing it up with real data (0.6% yoy from the Labor Dept.

The National Inflation Assocation (tagline "Preparing Americans for hyperinflation") weighs in with "it will soon cost $11.43 for one ear of corn, $23.05 for a 24 oz loaf of wheat bread, $62.21 for a 32 oz package of Domino Granulated Sugar, $24.31 for a 32 fl oz container of soy milk, $77.71 for a 11.30 oz container of Folgers Classic Roast Coffee, $45.71 for a 64 fl oz container of Minute Maid Orange Juice, and $15.50 for a Hershey's Milk Chocolate 1.55 oz candy bar."

Sarah Palin remains silent (unusual for her...), implying agreement.

Large segments of the population don't use what little brain they have to question the numbers and do the "Shock! Horror! Tell all my friends" thing.

Echo chamber works.

Hyperinflation is a fact

 

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Mr Roubini is wrong, some time ago in this thread we all read about the Martian bailout. Of course he is not registered  here.

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Dr Shilling foresees!.....read it and run for a safe harbour.

 http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article24317.html

 "Dr. Shilling believes the deleveraging process has years to go and that economic and financial markets have not returned to business as usual, at least not to the world of rapid growth supported by oversized and growing debt".

 

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I owe Matt an apology....serves me right for not living in Mana....give them hell Matt...

  "expect more of this from Labour before Saturday because Matt has exposed Labour's weaknesses. Take state housing. For nine years, Labour had control over social housing policy and should have done something about rampant homelessness and the poor quality of some state houses. During the past few weeks, Matt has exposed both Labour and National for their neglect through some of his campaign team occupying an empty state house. They have also exposed the lack of maintenance on some neighbouring properties. Labour has dismissed this expose as a stunt while the Nats have gone silent. But Matt and the Unite team have exposed a sleeping political issue that affects many people in Mana."....voxy.co

Still think the gst call is a dream promise!

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