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In wake of Bank of England talk of limiting mortgage to income multiples, RBNZ points to May 2013 comments that it may look at debt servicing limits in future

In wake of Bank of England talk of limiting mortgage to income multiples, RBNZ points to May 2013 comments that it may look at debt servicing limits in future

By Bernard Hickey

The Reserve Bank of New Zealand said in May 2013 it may look in the future at the case for limits on debt-servicing capacity in its macro-prudential toolkit.

The renewed focus on capping mortgage to income multiples followed comments by the Bank of England's new Financial Policy Committee on May 19 that it may force banks to include interest rate stress tests in their affordability tests for customers.

The Bank of England noted the share of mortgages worth more than four times income had risen to a record high this year. The Bank of England is set to release its half yearly Financial Stability Report on June 26 that may include such tests. Earlier this week, British house prices hit fresh record highs and are up 11.1% from a year ago.

Also earlier this week, the Royal Bank of Scotland became the second British bank in two weeks to cap mortgages for more than £500,000 at no more than four times income, following a similar move by Lloyds Bank last month, the Telegraph reported.

Stuff reported today that the Reserve Bank had not ruled out capping mortgages as an option.

A Reserve Bank spokesman pointed to the Reserve Bank's May 2013 final policy position on its macro-prudential policy, which included the high LVR speed limit imposed in October 2013, sectoral capital requirements, adjustments to the bank's existing Core Funding Ratio and a Counter Cyclical Capital buffer, which has yet to be used.

Page 10, Paragraph 49 refers to areas of regulation that were "not in scope" for the "base framework", but "may form part of the bank's future work programme." It included: "the case for incorporating debt-servicing capacity into the macro-prudential framework."

'Focus on supply side'

Economic think-tank The New Zealand Initiative said said it was concerned about the report and opposed such mortgage controls.

“To counter high and rising house prices, particularly in Auckland, tools to curb mortgage lending are the wrong way to go," said NZ Initiative Executive Director Oliver Hartwich.

"We need to tackle the underlying issue of housing supply if we are serious about housing affordability. In any case, it should be left to commercial lenders to decide whom to lend to and how much," Hartwich said.

He referred to the think tank's reports on freeing up land and housing supply.

"The research showed that countries with a flexible housing supply side typically avoid the affordability problems faced by New Zealand. In contrast, demand side interventions such as loan-to-value ratios or income caps can at best provide temporary relief but do not offer a lasting solution to long-term housing pressures," Hartwich said.

"Moreover, direct controls on mainstream financial intermediaries always have unintended and undesired consequences, including disintermediation," he said.

'Government action required'

Meanwhile, Labour Finance Spokesman David Parker and Housing spokesman Phil Twyford called for stronger action on housing to avert Reserve Bank action to cap mortgages at 4.5 times incomes.

“This could mean an Auckland family on a median income subject to an 80 per cent LVR could only buy a home of around $400,000, over $200,000 less than the median price of an Auckland home," Twyford said.

“That would shut out many more of the first home buyers who weren’t already locked out by LVRs, creating a generation of renters. Not only would it be the end of the home ownership dream it would be a speculator’s nirvana," he said.

“If the Reserve Bank chooses cap mortgage rates it will be the Government’s fault because it has not taken the actions necessary to address both speculator-driven demand and the shortage of affordable houses. This is exactly what happened with LVRs. The Reserve Bank was forced into a corner by the Government’s inaction. It’s déjà vu all over again."

Parker pointed to Labour's proposals for a capital gains tax, to build 100,000 houses in 10 years, and restrictions on "foreign and domestic speculators" as solutions to the housing problems.

“National’s refusal to deal with housing, capital gains, universal KiwiSaver, migration effects and monetary policy is hurting first home buyers and the wider economy," he said.

BNZ's Healy comments

Late last month Gareth Vaughan spoke to new BNZ CEO Anthony Healy in a Double Shot interview about the talk of mortgage caps in Britain and whether they should be introduced here.

"I think you have got to be careful when you start imposing lots of micro regulatory tools into a banking system," Healy said. "Because one of the things that is a real strength of our banking system is the core risk management practices at the banks, their innovation, the way that they continue to invest in the sector and bring new products to our customers."

"So the more you regulate their activities the less innovation you get over time, and the less attractive that sector will be for capital. And therefore you could risk starving that sector over time," Healy said.

"I'm not sure that picking an arbitrary number of four or four and a half times salary and saying 'that's the highest you can lend to' is; A) a call that a government should make, or B) the right number. I think it's a bit arbitrary."

"Our models are much more sophisticated than that. We look at house prices obviously, we look at leverage, we look at income levels. But also what people spend, what their other income sources are, what their likely increases in salary (are) over time. So I think you have got to be careful when you over regulate this stuff," said Healy.

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Olly has already commented on this piece.

Read it here:

Get Used To Being Tenants In a Sea Of Shortages

 

Here’s another mad-cap idea dreamed up by someone interviewing their lap top.

 

 

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Olly sums it up well!!!

 

It's difficult to not start thinking they are a sinister, vindictive lot floating around in Wellington.

 

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They really want to ignore sticky prices in their analysis..

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What's that old saying "he who is paid to not understand, won't understand" or something like that anyway.

 

Extending more and more credit does not make housing affordable, lower prices do. The only problem with mortgage caps is the price of houses. In a healthy market saving a 20% deposit and borrowing no more than 4.5x income should not be a problem. But as we know that is not achieveable for a large proportion of society.

 

 

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The next step should be lowering the LVR limit for investors with 3 or more leveraged properties.

Perhaps to 65%

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But that would reduce the amount of large portfolio buyers... this article is about reducing the ability for wage earners to enter the property market.

selling time as wage has upper limit based on the time that can be sold.  And is affected by the cost of specialisation (a cost) to increase the per hour rate.

With LVR requirements (and hardening them) only those with external income streams will have an option to get into a decoupled asset market.  And the capping process will actively work to pressurise that external:asset yield.  ie it will put rents up.  At the moment leverage can push servicability over longer times, so rents are decoupled without too much trouble, and trades can occur.   Putting this cap on means that larger portfolios wanting to increase income can either inject small amounts of external capital (eg 0.00001%) as investment from personal reduced spending - or they can seek to lift the entire yield of the asset base (eg 0.05%) which will give them huge cshflow increases and better yield projection for the targetted purchase.
 It's a captive market so hard on demand - ie if people could buy out, eg build their own or jump off the wheel on to the ladder, they would have done so.

So impliment this service limit, property prices will rises, as rents WILL lift.

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Reminds me of the approach to renting in NYC..

Income has to exceed  mthly rental by 45.

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If non-resident foreign buyers are driving up prices, then an income-multiple borrowing limit for NZ locals is not necessarily going to contain house prices.  It may just lock out more NZ buyers.   Added to the hefty interest rate premium that NZ borrowers are forced to pay.

Maybe this is what the Globalism ideology mandate wants to achieve.

 

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but the NZRB's job is to look after NZbank stability. So if less nzers are in debt then the losses from the price collapse is borne off shore.

Also I think seeing NZers forced out will see a voter backlash and foreign ownership simply banned, aka cook islands.

It has to come IMHO, this ideology of let ppl with more money come in and screw us over has to be delt with.

regards

 

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In Australia the Foreign Investment Review board, who do have access to some data on the matter, told their parliment:

"I think quite a lot of the commentary is based upon either lack of knowledge of the facts or an inadvertent misinterpretation of the facts," Foreign Investment Review Board (FIRB) chairman Brian Wilson told the House of Representatives economics committee.

 

Also of interest:

"Information is good ... information is not cost-free," Mr Wilson said.

FIRB has eight staff to deal with foreign investment in residential property.

To gain a greater degree of certainty of foreign ownership among the 500,000 sales each year would probably need 80 full-time staff.

Mr Wilson questioned whether the government would see this as a worthwhile use of resources.

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Difficult to  data mine foreign property investment as many use NZ based relatives, friends etc to act as the title holder.  

 

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In an environment where facts are as rare as hens teeth I would have thought any factual based analysis would be more than useful.

 

Your claim as case in point, what evidence outside of heresay or innuendo exists to support the implication that foreigners are providing NZ based relatives and friends enough finance in enough volume as to signiificantly affect real estate pricing to the extent it's a threat to the market and nation?

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Yes, I saw the video transcript of Wilson being questioned in a senate hearing, equivalent of select committee hearings

 

He had a smirk all over his face while he was doing it - how hard it is he said - heck 10% of all metro area residents and property buyers are asian - how do you differentiate he said

 

Heck 10% is a lot less the AKL's 25%

 

Here is a summary of the law applying to non-residents buyers, and a new one for you "temporary residents on temporary visas" who are required to sell on their departure

http://www.exfin.com/australian-property-firb

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I am not surprised, it's largely a ridiculous question.  The main evidence I have read consists of an accusation the person buying was visibly asian in descent.  Oh horrors.

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"how do you differentiate he said"

 

Proof of citizenship or residency as part of the sales legal process.

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Get with the program Ralph,

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2014/05/firb-says-youre-not-racist-abou…

You are mistaking Australia's Foreign Investment Recruitment Board for an agency that actually monitors and enforces the rules.

 

If an audit of the last 5,000 NZ property sales was conducted then we would know and the speculation would end one way or another. If the results were going to be favourable National would have already done this.

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Blah blah; show me better facts.

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Re: foreign investment in residential property.

 

The answer is always....follow the money, follow the money.

Of course that takes a commitment from the Govt....enough said.

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You say "commitment" I say a total waste of tax payers funds.  There are people needing surgery and single parents all with vastly more important needs than funding a witch hunt of asian house buyers in Auckland.

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So to take that one step further, Ralph.

Do you support the AML/CFT Act ?

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Haven't given it a huge amount of thought.

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Well, some of us have.

If it is alright with you, I will stand by my opinion that we should allocate resources to "follow the money trail".

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right on the money spottie

 

Of course, it's easier to track black-hawk helicopters flying over Coatesville, and freezing the big boy's assets

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*Shrug*   Always easy to spend other peoples money.

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Total waste of taxpayers money ?????????????????

 

aaaaw geeeee

 

Tell that to "dear leader" currently doing a tour of the pacific islands teeing up a game for the AB's in Samoa plus funding, and a new footy stadium for Tonga

 

Meanwhile Christchurch is going down the toilet

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How much money do tax payers waste on interest due to inflated property prices Ralph? Yep, that's what I thought....

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Some clues: 

Higher number of buyers who pay the full listing price

mortgage growth compared to house price growth

non-resident landlords

auckland only price growth

Overseas RE marketing campaigns

many more ... But it is difficult not to be offensive to PR immigrants or recent immigrants which of course have every right to buy their house.  That is where the PM cleverly diverted the argument. 

 

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Interest paid is wasted money? 

Tell that to the savers and depositors who provide the money in the first place rather than relying on the State for handouts.

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Yes, a lot of it  IS WASTED money.

Why, because a lot of bank funding is done by foreign investors, often at a far greater security (covered bonds) than NZers are given.

 

If the RBNZ regulated less funding allowed by foreigners - which they are doing to some degree - then this interest paid by the banks would come to us.....not some foreigner.

 

Of course borrowers would have to pay more.

Two birds with one stone then, eh BigDaddy.

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Very true Spottie, two things would happen, term deposit rates would go up (I would be delighted), NZ mortgage borrowers would pay more, banks would have to lend less, credit would contract, confidence would weakned, growth would dip, unemployment would rise etc......good plan......when as a country we are actually capable of funding our lifestyle ourselves (i.e. the banks don't have to borrow overseas) , we can then do what you suggest without consequences - I don't see that happening soon.

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Everything in moderation, so not stop foreign funding, just limit it.  Given how much OAP money is apparantly in deposits I'd wonder on there being some slack there, ie reduce % foreign before much of a depositor rise.  Even then a small rise, 0.5%.  Lend less? yes sounds good, to a degree...

regards

 

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Who is "you" Kimy. If you mean the RBNZ with its OCR it would make no difference, the banks would pay up to whatever they needed to attract the funding they need based upon borrower demand (at least while they consider that they have enough credit worthy borrowers). They would prefer to be able to do that off the local market but the local market can't fund NZers borrowing appetite so they would have to pay up for foreign funds, or stop lending. This is exactly the point that many don't seem to understand, borrow beyond what your economy can fund, and you're forced to fund offshore, pay higher rates and suffer the consequences if it's too high. That exactly the point the Govt makes about keeping its own debt in order, it reduces the demand for funds in the economy, and keeps mortgage rates lower than otherwise. Conversely, spend up and you have higher rates for everyone. Borrowers do not want a Govt spend up for sure, even the slightly expansionary budget  has slightly increased the RBNZ potential OCR track.

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LOL, most of the money is Fed money handed out virtually free (ie not earned) and "invested" by  the big US banks.  

regards

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I couldn't say it better than Zombie Ponzi:

"Extending more and more credit does not make housing affordable, lower prices do."

And I challenge Anthony Healy to apply for a pre-approved home loan at any bank, and pretend he is on a median income. Notwithstanding the 80% limit if applied, I think the loan amount offered will shock him.

My advice to anyone applying for a home loan is to firstly make a budget based on what you CURRENTLY spend your money on (THE BANK WILL NOT DO THIS!), then work out how much you can afford per week/fortnight/month for debt repayments. Then work out what loan amount that equates to over 25 years, using the long-term average interest rate. This is your limit, not the ridiculous amount that the Bank will give you.

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