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Accounts show govt has been fiscally responsible so far this year, Prime Minister Key says

Accounts show govt has been fiscally responsible so far this year, Prime Minister Key says
<p> Govt will look to make budget savings where it can in the New Year, PM Key says</p>

By Alex Tarrant

Prime Minister John Key says the Crown accounts out today show the Government had been fiscally responsible in the four months to October, with government spending lower than expected in May.

Key also confirmed the Government will undertake a spending review in the New Year, although he would not say what spending would be looked at.

Speaking to media at his weekly post cabinet press conference, Key said he couldn't detail spending changes yet, "but as I indicated last week we won’t be going into election 2011 with a lolly scramble".

Key said the Government recognised the importance of taking pressure off the Reserve Bank, and that the way to do that was make sure government was fiscally responsible.

"In fact in the release of the Crown accounts today you can see how fiscally responsible we’ve been because government spending was lower than what was predicted by about NZ$450 million by memory," Key said.

But the government's operating deficit came in higher than expected?

“Yeah well that’s because tax revenue is down and that’s because we had to account for the [Canterbury] earthquake. They are factors partly beyond our control," Key said.

"We are getting that rebalancing and sometimes when we get that rebalancing the good news part of the story is you’re less reliant on foreign borrowings, and that’s good for your external liabilities. But it also means in the short term our tax revenue’s been lower than we anticipated," he said.

Asked why a spending review would take place in the New Year and not now, Key said: “Because we’re going to write budget 2011 in the New Year.”

Key stuck with a prediction he had seen recently that the economy would grow 3% over the next year, despite indications of a weaker-than-expected recovery from Treasury.

'We'll make savings where we can'

All would argue government was running a larger deficit than it would naturally be comfortable with, Key said, "but I think that’s been necessary in terms of getting New Zealand through the recession".

"I think we’ve tried to take the rough edges off the recession for New Zealanders. Realistically some of these things are short term cycles, so GST revenue might be slightly less now, [it] might be slightly more next year, there’s certain timing issues there," Key said

"It’s about the long term spending track of the government. That’s what we’re really interest in. If we can take our money, as we had in the past, out of the baseline, then long term implications on the Crown accounts are more important, it’s not just the one off short term issues," Key said.

"We’re looking to make savings where we possibly can and we’ll detail those next year," he said on his 'baseline' comment.

On food prices

Asked about rising food prices, Key said price changes due to the GST increase on October 1 had been compensated for "in totality" either through personal tax cuts or an increase in Superannuation or other benefit payments.

"Food prices always rise, in fact they’ve risen by a much smaller amount under National than they did under Labour," Key said.

"They are accommodated for through the general wage increase, which is running probably at about 1.5% through the economy. So is it tough for some New Zealanders, yes, but a lot of their expenses are lower than they otherwise have been. Petrol prices have been considerably lower, interest rates considerably lower, general inflation running at 1.5%.

Key said he wouldn't take too much notice of the 5% predicted inflation rate over the short term due to government policies, "because as we know, the Reserve Bank governor’s going to look through that so it won’t have any impact on interest rates,” he said.

Don't know how lucky we are

It needed to be accepted in New Zealand that the international environment was fragile, Key said.

"We’ve seen that with another bout of concern about what’s happening both in Ireland and Spain. They are factors that maybe are predictable, but they also are a result of a very very deep global financial crisis," he said.

"From New Zealand’s point of view, no one’s arguing it is easy for New Zealanders, but what I can say is we’re in a lot better shape than a lot of other countries. If you look at Australia, their growth numbers were out last week, they were much lower than people thought – 0.2%.

"If you look at unemployment in the US, it went up to 9.8% on Friday from 9.6%. If you look at our export growth, in fact we had record export growth I think last month."

Overall New Zealand had its challenges and the government had looked to address those through personal tax cuts and more liberal labour laws, Key said.

“We’re doing what we can but we’re always going to be a product of the international environment,” he said.

'It could be higher income earners shoulder too much tax, not middle income earners'

On comments from Labour Leader Phil Goff that middle income earners were shouldering too much of the tax burden, Key said the current government had cut taxes so that around 70% of Kiwis paid taxes of no more than 17.5%.

“What I can tell you is if you go and have a look at the structure of personal taxes in New Zealand, there’s still an awful lot of personal taxes paid by a very small group," Key said.

He could not recall the figure off the top of his head, but "it’s at least a quarter to a half of the personal tax base is paid by a very small group".

"In fact if you earn NZ$50,000 in this country and have two children under the age of 18 you pay zero tax," Key said, referring to the Working for Families tax package.

"So actually, you might make the case that higher income earners pay a lot. But middle income earners, they pay a fair bit too. We’re doing our best for them, that’s why we’ve been cutting taxes," he said.

(Updates with comments on tax, don't know how lucky we are, comments on food prices)

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Wow...the media sure put it to John boy....maybe there was wine and cheese if they didn't ask questions that went to the heart of the unbalanced economy..."what black swan events has your govt prepared for?"....."why are you not putting a pay freeze on the top third of the state sector salaries?"...."Have you prepared for S&P downgrading the NZ rating or any of the other ratings agencies?"......"Are you aware that NZ level of debt puts the country up next to Ireland?"....."If the much talked about growth next year proves to be a lot of hot air..will you finally make a real effort to bring down the property bubbles?"....."Is it true that the govt is more concerned about bank profits than New Zealand families in debt to the banks?"..."why are you not willing to say property in NZ is seriously unaffordable?"..."You don't have any idea what the final cost of the earthquake will be....how then can you talk of gdp reaching 3% next year?".....

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"why are you not putting a pay freeze on the top third of the state sector salaries?"

Wolly you big girls blouse, that should read

"Why have you not reduced the pay of the top third of state sector sector salaries by 20% in order to impress upon them the gravity of the situation they have helped us get into?"

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I didn't want to be too 'in their face' Roger.....still like the sound of 'Sir Wolly'

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PM- we are now a nation of cows ! HA - what a 100% shity, stinky economy !

“ The NZ100% pure cowpat- factory ” - a proud NZcompany - 100% funded by the NZtaxpayer.

The nation's milking cow population has overtaken the human population - the 4.4 million cows now outnumber the 4.39 million New Zealanders.

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moo........we are watching you Walter.

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Walter : There are 477 Swiss citizens / sq. km , compared to just 16 Kiwis / sq. km , in our respective country's . 30 times as many folk in your home-land , per unit area , than in New Zealand .............. So unless the Swiss suffer from a whole lotta constipation , I wouldn't get all smug about whose got the crappier environment in which to live .

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Firstly I live in NZ – I care about NZ – it is my home since 18 years.

Secondly one can swim in most waterways in Switzerland.

Thirdly one cannot swim in most waterways here in NZ - shocking results !

Fourthly 10 -20 years ago it used to be the opposite.

When do politicians understand we are having fundamental trouble in our economy ? The two major earners (agriculture/ tourism) are increasingly going to be destroyed.

Another example why we should introduce a “NZ100% Pure Economy” model.

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PM - I think you really don’t know, how many billions of $ we have to spend in the next few years  cleaning up this country in many aspect of life/ business ?

In stead of bloody creating an artificial financial South Pacific hub you better get more practical and learn how to use a broom. ..and PM prepare some sandbags too !

It is time for a “100%NZpure Economic Model” !

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My God where are we going in this country, pleasing a few, but destroy our health and our NZenvironment, Eco tourism, sustainable farming, etc. with a massive financial burden for this and the next NZgeneration to clean up the mess. PM wake up !!

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NZ's biggest liablity is this :

"In fact if you earn NZ$50,000 in this country and have two children under the age of 18 you pay zero tax," Key said, referring to the Working for Families tax package.

Having children should NOT be used as a tax haven or relief.  Having no children does not bring with it  government created financial incentives so why should the reverse? If we can't pay people a decent standard of living WITHOUT WFF's or other subsidised living payments then we have a fundumental problem with our country's longterm productivity and industry

Borrowing millions a month for this kind of charity at the real 'productive' taxpayers expense is only going to bankrupt us! How is that good for our future generations?

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Yeah how about this for a question: JK, why is it that we need to have programs like WFF to support families in NZ where one of the parents makes $50,000 a year?

Do people not see that there is something wrong with our economy when not only can a typical family not make enough money to support themselves, but its gotten to the point where they are effectively given a tax incentive just to have children?

Perhaps the rude reality of high house prices is finally dawning on the pollies. If it becomes less and less affordable for successive generations of NZ'ers to have children... then whos going to support each previous generation in their old age, baby boomers first and then Gen Xers after them?? How can we possibly continue on with our expansionary monetary policy when the population is contracting?

Uh oh, we might actually have to change something fundamental to the economy rather than slapping on some half-arsed band aid fix up job like WFF. 

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The NZ economy is unbalanced. Due to the real estate bubble. Everything is expensive due to the debt burden people have as they had to take on more debt to buy a house. Everyone needs more money to cover there cost of living. Kiwi's are fighting against each other when buying property. Pushing prices high. More debt burden. Higher cost of living. 

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My brother earns a little more than $50k and he has two small children. He is the sole breadwinner in his family. He and his wife receive less than $40 p/w WFF. He pays a LOT of tax, far more than he receives as WFF. MUCH more. My brother's case is typical, not exceptional.

Once again John Key is pandering to the slobbering 50-something BBs, softening the nation up before ripping away more social infrastructure.

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That's the whole point. If on the one hand you take more than $40+ tax off the taxpayer, then receive the funds, then deposit it in the bank, then check the WFF entitlements, send the $40 back to the taxpayer, look at all the government infrastructure required, and government jobs being created, and maintained. Method in the madness? And are the banks clipping any off the ticket as that money goes round? Plus of course you need a WFF CEO on $250k pa

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I Am The Man, The trouble with the way our economy works is that your brother could probably cut back to a 30 hour week and not suffer much of a cut in pay. WFF would then make up the difference.

I said before JK came to power that I was hopeful he might make a difference, but expected that he wouldn't. So far I think my reservations were right. He is just another politician.

Kunst I agree with your 100% pure, marketing in this day and age is everything.

But I don't agree that we can expect our government to be behind such a move. These sort of things happen despite the government not because of them.

Every so often a special kind of leader comes along and really makes a difference, but I think that this is down to luck whether it occurs in your backyard. I don't know that we have had anyone of that sort of calibre in New Zealand. Perhaps Sir Ed, but he wasn't in a leadership role. But there is certainly no one on the horizon.

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Alex Great detail that we won't see anywhere else.

I'm interested in this quote:

"I think we’ve tried to take the rough edges off the recession for New Zealanders. Realistically some of these things are short term cycles, so GST revenue might be slightly less now, [it] might be slightly more next year, there’s certain timing issues there."

I wonder if the government has thought through what might happen if this isn't a 'short cycle'. What if we're in a longer term deleveraging.

Is the budget properly structured for that? What should we do to cope with that?

cheers

Bernard

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I suspect Key has been told not to worry about any deleveraging getting a foothold in Noddyland....that Bolly stands ready to flood the economy with cheap nuclear option monopoly money and that he can be assured the level of education of the bulk of the peasants on economic and financial matters has been kept so bad, as to ensure they will always believe the spin and BS spewing from wgtn.........

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Bernard I am firmly of the view the Key knows what is going to happen, he must know given his background. He is just hoping the trouble will hold off so he doesn't have to make himself unpopular, thus getting into power again next year.

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Nice idea scarfie but prepare to be let down....Key knows all about trading currencies and firing people....but he knows bugger all about the real reasons Noddyland is an economic 'also ran' being farmed by the aussie banks and suffering from property disease.

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You can't be let down if you don't have expectations. Haha. 

Perhaps he knows bugger all, but the more cynical side of me thinks it is more likely he is prepared to sacrifice New Zealanders just to stay in power.

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"Noddyland is an economic 'also ran' being farmed by the aussie banks".

Tsk tsk.  You're not supposed to say that, it's Top Secret.

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Hah....and the headline news on this page has Key saying Kiwis will start spending more!...go figure

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Looks as though the spin doctors have been hard at it overnight...Key coming out with statements like a vending machine.....

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