Covid-19 update: Director-General of Health says two work colleagues and two people from a 'related household' of confirmed cases are suspected to have Covid

Wow. Those comments. What a cesspit of vile people. Though the consistency of the comments makes you wonder if any of them are indeed real people.

Re: Reaching For The Precious. That guy nailed it. Shame that he sprinkled some irrelevant opinions on climate change though.

The very early China modelling suggested best environment for virus spread was low temp and low humidity.

Examples would be cool stores and New York in winter...

This is not a game-changer, in that this has been known for years. The fact the Govt. has refused to acknowledge the scientific evidence in this is no different than the evidence they ignore why houses, are cold, damp, and unhealthy. Viruses are most infective in low humidity environments and can be most easily spread in aerosol form in buildings that recirculates the air.

Our indoor environments are now entering some of the lowest humidity conditions for the year. If we were going to get outbreaks, it's from now until late spring or any indoor environment with low humidity and recirculated air. The virus has to be present of course.

Entered via freight... pfft That's propaganda. The most likely scenario is that it was here all along spreading among the community with little to no symptoms.

Human embryos can be frozen and still be viable at a later date. No great leap to accept that a virus being snap frozen (which is how the stuff concerned here will be).
And then there are things like this https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2013/08/21/how-arctic-frogs-survive…

Well unless you put them behind bars you are not going to stop selfish imbeciles breaking out of, and into, facilities. But if this outbreak has occurred outside of those circumstances, eg contact/transmission between say international air crews and airport staff, well then, you are undoubtedly right.

Well if people did not decide to be selfish a'h*les

Too much commonsense for this COL. Dither the name of the game.

Because our understanding of COVID has changed with time. New evidence emerges, we change our plans. That is literally how science works.

Yes, the evidence has always been there for masks, er that's why people in hospitals wear them. If it wasn't so logically obvious, a 30 minute Google search is all it would have taken, there is plenty of academic research on it.

Source?

wow, just read that. didn't get tested for four days after their gp told them to. auckland is going back on extended lockdown you have to think

Those folk wearing masks at home were probably doing some sanding.

9 put of 10 people wearing masks I see on TV and out on the streets dont know how to fit them.
Pinch the wire across the bridge of your nose. It holds your mask up and also forcing air through your mask instead of escaping around either side of your nose.

Lots of people are safe and immune.

Many people don't even notice they have it and anybody who has had it already is immune.

What's with people wearing them while driving? And inside their own homes?

Not a bad idea.. just gotta find a spare 10 ships or so

Floating petri dishes with the aircon spreading the virus beautifully, yep that'll do nicely I am sure

Part of the point of using 5 star hotels is to limit the spread of COVID amongst the staff and also the guests, and 5 star hotels have the space and layout to do this effectively.

Cruise ships, on the other hand, are known petri dishes for the spread of diseases, including COVID and are also likely to have tight quarters and limited space for organisation.

Furthermore, if you kept beds on a cruise ship empty in order to make up that space, you'd effectively be throwing money away. Cruise ships would also have to be supplied with diesel to keep them operable which would add a lot of expense to ongoing upkeep.

But in terms of being physically isolated from the rest of the population, it is an idea worth considering. I wonder if the MoH considered it; I'd say there's a good chance they didn't.

Oh yes! Back in March it was obvious that Pacifica communities in reasonable density in Auckland were at prime risk of becoming large clusters of infections. But they did not thank goodness. Back in March there was a lot less known about the virus than there is now and our health system was only just gearing up to cope. Here then is NZ, Auckland, with news that there is more threat now to these communities, after all that has been actioned and learnt and sacrificed, than there was five months ago. Go figure.

We are doing the best with what we have, we do not have a 6,000 bedroom, each with own ensuite for this purpose. I suppose someone could just wave a magic wand and we could have one tomorrow.

"The hysteria will kill more of us than the actual virus". Precisely, its a shame those in charge don't realize this. Poverty will end up costing a lot more lives than COVID19 will long term.

Yeah, except mass death! We don't have the health system and ICU capacity to cope with large scale infections, unlike a lot of Europe, so our system may get overwhelmed. It will put huge stress on nurses and doctors and will mean that other treatments and surgeries maybe delayed, causing more problems and death..
So we have no choice to do what we have done, and figures appear to show that eliminating covid, is better economically, than living in a covid country. You just have to look at UKs economy now, or the US one.

We have these little beings for whom such responsibilities are not reasonably possible, even with the best will in the world, they are called children, in case I have confused you a bit.

There was also a time when we thought that allowing people to self isolate at home was enough, but that failed miserably. We just seem to tighten the rules a little bit each time, then it then fails, so we tighten them a bit more, it fails, etc. Rather than going the full slog and making sure would quarantine facilities are actually watertight. It is possible to do, and I imagine Chinas quarantining is pretty watertight.

There is no statistical correlation between lockdowns and Covid19 death rates (the Lancet). In other words lock downs do not work.

The mortality rate of C19 is the same as the flu; the average age of death is over 80; 60% of all humans have T cell immunity to it; and there is no excess total mortality anywhere in the world over the last eight months. In my humble opinion therefore, this was the same as a flu wave and should have been treated the same.

We now, clearly have the worst PM in our history. Governmsnt debt is going fron $20 billion to $200 billion from a Moronsville panic.

Never lies? John Tamihere says his Waiparera Trust was informed about the positive tests on Monday, but Ardern says she only learned about it Tuesday afternoon. Tamihere said (if I recall correctly) that she's obviously lying.

This sort of advanced and insider information has pretty serious implications for stock markets. Wonder if there was abnormal trading activity on Monday?
Why is bureaucratic instinct always towards hiding and covering up info? Letting population know immediately that there were positive tests would produce immediate useful results in terms of people sharpening up their general levels of care/isolation. Protecting their organisation and their political masters should always come second to protecting the best interests of the country.