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The Reserve Bank of New Zealand has held the Official Cash Rate at 5.50% but noted this policy may be hurting the economy more than expected

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The Reserve Bank of New Zealand has held the Official Cash Rate at 5.50% but noted this policy may be hurting the economy more than expected
Reserve Bank governor Adrian Orr

The Reserve Bank held the official cash rate at 5.5% on Wednesday but noted economic indicators may suggest monetary policy was hitting demand harder than expected. 

RBNZ’s seven person Monetary Policy Committee agreed monetary policy needed to “remain restrictive” and also that it could be loosened as inflation falls.

“The extent of this restraint will be tempered over time consistent with the expected decline in inflation pressures,” they said in the April meeting notes

“Some domestically generated price pressures remain strong. But there are signs inflation persistence will ease in line with the fall in capacity pressures and business pricing intentions”.

The Kiwi dollar fell sharply immediately after the announcement from US61.3c to US60.9c in a clear sign that the financial markets saw the comments from the RBNZ as more 'dovish' than had been expected. Wholesale interest rates also dropped quite sharply with, for example, the two-year swap rate falling by 8 basis points.

Economists expected the central bank to hold the OCR steady in this meeting, but have been calling for policymakers to rethink their plan to leave rates unchanged until late next year.

At its meeting in May, the RBNZ was surprisingly hawkish. It lifted its OCR projection to peak at 5.65% and pushed possible rate cuts out until August 2025.

But last week, a survey of businesses found 28% had experienced a drop in activity during the past three months and 25% had laid off staff — similar to in the Global Financial Crisis in 2007.

Treasury said it showed the economy may have contracted during the June quarter and that fewer firms were raising prices “despite elevated but stable costs”.

Stephen Toplis, head of research at BNZ, said the survey showed inflation had been beaten and virtually “screamed” for monetary policy to be relaxed sooner rather than later. 

The same data caused economists at ASB Bank to shift their forecast for interest rate cuts to begin this November, instead of in February next year.

Nick Tuffley, the bank’s chief economist, said unnecessarily damaging the economy and employment levels had overtaken inflation as the biggest risk facing the RBNZ.

Falling faster

The record of the RBNZ's Monetary Policy Committee meeting on Wednesday showed the committee agreed there was “more evidence of excess productive capacity emerging” and signs the economy may be falling below forecasts. 

It noted recent higher frequency indicators were suggesting that near-term growth in business activity had weakened, likely a reference to the NZIER’s quarterly survey. 

“A range of business and consumer surveys, and higher frequency spending and credit data, all point to declining activity,” the committee said.

“Members discussed the risk that this may indicate that tight monetary policy is feeding through to domestic demand more strongly than expected”. 

The RBNZ has previously forecast inflation in the June quarter to be 0.6% and bring the annual number down to 3.6%. It expects economic activity to grow extremely slowly for the rest of 2024, while unemployment climbs to 5%.

Many other economists now think activity will actually go backwards, unemployment will climb well above 5%, and inflation will fall faster than expected.

Some commentators said they would be reading the record of the meeting for possible signals the Reserve Bank was setting the scene for rate cuts sooner than previously indicated.  

In the notes, committee members said the Selected Price Indexes showed weakening price pressure on more volatile inflation components, and a fall in businesses’ pricing intentions. 

This helped to confirm their belief that headline inflation should return to within the 1% to 3% target range before the end of the year.

“Domestic inflation measures remain more persistent, but growing excess capacity in the domestic economy provides greater certainty that they will sustainably decline,” they said.

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"The Committee discussed the.... risk that price setting behaviour and inflation expectations could normalise more rapidly as headline inflation declines." = Kiwis will immediately go back to what they are conditioned to do, ramp up property prices, when it cuts the OCR.

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Mr Orr wanted a recession, now he is worried about how deep it might become.

The market is 100% convinced he will need to cut in Nov.

Noise from the Fed suggest they are also worried about Labour market softness spilling over into housing markets etc.

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He will cut in November, and by 50 pbs. By then, even the RBNZ will be able to see that the NZ economy is softening - fast. 

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November you say? Tuesday the 5th, that would be? And if DJT is elected, then are we still a go for 50bp when the flood of Debt is released on the World to stimulate more growff and its trusty companion, price rises? Or, maybe worse. Sleepy Joe gets back in. But not too worry. The French should be erecting a new structure in the Place de la Concorde by then....

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More importantly Melbourne Cup Tuesday the 5th. All rate drop savings will go straight into the TAB

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Remember, remember, the 5th of November...

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Agreed

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Prices can only ramp up as much as demand. If they take it back to the stupid low rates that they kept in place for way too long, yes everything will go up accordingly. However, if everyone at the RBNZ put all of their brains together and create half a decent brain, maybe they will take rates back to around 4%, keeping retail rates in the 5%s, providing balance and can make subtle adjustments from there as needed. 

Though wouldn't surprise me if Orr steers this ship straight into a cliff, panics and goes full swing the other way, backing into the dock. Steady is not in that mans abilities. Other than receiving a very steady income from tax payers.

 

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I am hoping Orr has learned by now to be conservative and cautious.

I reckon now a .25 cut in November along with a warning that if inflation doesn't stay in the target band that the ocr will not drop further or will need to rise again. And a warning it's not going back to the low ball days... perhaps with a recommendation for luxon to implement more house price controls to avoid rapid price gains.

Basically best bet is to give the economic flame a tiny bit of oxygen and the watch to make sure he can control the heat.

 

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Im sure he will be, we have just seen what can happen in Canada.

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His reputation was left in tatters after the failure to start ticking the OCR up in 2020 after the RBNZ took drastic action to flood the country with cheap credit, failing on all his performance objectives for his role. He is now not only responsible for having a large influence on the NZ economy, but if anything else fails on his watch that he is remit to oversee, the country will demand his head to roll. I'd be of the thinking that he is well aware of this, and his doubled salary depends on it. 

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As expected.

Additionally for those assuming that the first OCR cut is going to be some saving grace for the economy and property market is akin to believing that a dying patient is going to be instantly saved when the ambulance arrives, not when the patient as actually in the hospital being operated on by a surgeon.

OCR will likely start to drop in early 2025 with some actual respite mid to late 2025.

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I wonder how you have better forecasts than reserve bank, treasury, Tony, ASB, BNZ and Kiwibank?

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Because my business/career does not rely on pumping the property market.

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at the end of the day you could say 2030, it wouldn't really matter.

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You could say the same about the banks and Tony.

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Is that you Tony Alexander?

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sometimes i wonder who is who here.

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Who was it that was talking about the kiwi peso on here the other day? It was very similar to comments made by John Bolton on the Squirrel podcast

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Why don't you put some money on that early 2025 call? I am sure plenty of people on here will give you odds that reflect your confidence!

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You may have missed the word "likely" in there.

I'd be happy to wager than the property market is dead in the water and will drop at least 10% by this time next year.

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I'd take that wager - but you need to offer me odds of at least 1000:1. And I'd only risk $10.

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Those odds sound about right

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"...that the first OCR cut is going to be some saving grace for the economy and property market..."

Um. Seriously? The property market is not where most of the people in NZ Inc are employed.

To relate the effects of the OCR to NZ's economy - only on the effects it has on the residential property market - is a nonsense.

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Not where most are employed no but a comparatively very high proportion are employed in the sector...in excess of 10% I understand.

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Apparently members of the committee 'discussed the risk that... tight monetary policy is feeding through to domestic demand more strongly than expected'. The Committee also discussed 'signs of easing in the labour market'.

Listen to the language... 'discussed risk' and 'signs of easing'. Nobody who looks at the data would be using this language. The economy is imploding.

Not that shaving a few basis points of the OCR is going to make any difference of course.   

 

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"Imploding" is a little far when unemployment is under 5%.

We'll implode later this year.

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Take a look at the jobs chart here and we can chat about what defines imploding.

https://www.interest.co.nz/business/128662/bnz-says-falling-job-ads-are…

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Too much immigration putting the job market now in line with 2014 and plenty more to go to 2008 levels, which we are likely to be in line with within 6 months or so. Immigrants that can't find work will begin to leave. Inflationary pressures subside.

I don't see a problem, this is by design. 

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you offering warm accommodation again?

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I always offer warm accommodation!  Even in Summer St.

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Exactly, making staff redundant can be a nightmare these days. It’s safer to just cut their hours or don’t increase their salary if you’re looking to trim the herd. This is reflected in the reasonably low unemployment figures with a massive drop off in advertised positions. 

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This is what happened to a young friend of mine, employed in a cafe.  Everyone has had their hours cut back, so that its now hard to survive on the part time wages.  This will last until one of them quits, and the others get to pick up that person's shifts.  Its easier for the employer to keep everyone available but just pay them less.

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No, in early 2025 we will have imploded. We are currently imploding!

It's all very August 2008.

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you can always be fooled by statistics and certainly aggregates, some sectors, if you look at the micro level, are imploding and that flows to others sectors...in time. these guys talk like they don't wish to look!

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If they don't look then they can't be held accountable

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Jfoe: "Not that shaving a few basis points of the OCR is going to make any difference of course. "

Not now. No. Way too late.

November '23? Probably!

(Watch the NZD. It has only one course now.)

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Orr will compete with Robbers son for the worse financial predictor in history of NZ.

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Kiwi has been smashed, petrol prices and imported inflation heading higher in 3,2,1.....

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Quite right.

Gold up 40 bucks an oz against the Kiwi since the release. Cut the OCR now or later and just see what happens to the price of our imports (which, of course, dwarf our exports that might see some respite)

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Sharp spike AUD/NZD too

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Makes the A$ salaries look better and better....

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Orr could say what he did because of what Powell said yesterday. Feb or Nov 0.25 cut now a possibility.

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Yes, good take.

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Or August.

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Oh, my money is (literally) on August or November. This is all going to the dogs, and I'm not dog food. 

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I don't get this. It's not a big change in the Dollar at the moment but what were they expecting to happen?

Do they want to see some doveishness or is it just a temporary market thing?

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RBNZ are now more "dovish" than RBA

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Great, we went early and hard. While they contemplate a rise. Well done Orr.

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I remain of the view RBNZ should keep tightening to increase the rate at which inflation will be curtailed and drive inflation to the bottom of the target range for years so wages can catch up. I accept that I'm probably an outlier in this however.

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This would mean killing the NZ economy in order to save it. 

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How much should they tighten by then?

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A message from an outlying planet in a solar system far, far away. 

 

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There will be no bounce once they do lower rates. Think of it like cutting down a tree. It takes time for the next tree to grow. 

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Orr right now... https://ibb.co/R76H1GQ

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Crazy Horse comes in off the plains, after buffalo hunt ....to this news. 

"Mmmmmm" he mumbles to himself and sighs "Chief Orr has been through all this, when he was way over east, over the bluffs, for the GFC and he knows human nature and their use of debt"  

As 2 crows circle overhead, Crazy Horse looks up and ponders "what do those 2 crows represent ?" 

"I know !" he exclaims loudly at the crystal blue sky "It's Ashley Church and Tony the Comb, realising its all over" 

In the distance, a straggly herd of sheep reach their heads up to the sky, looking at the 2 crows, earnestly asking "What are we to do oh great ones?" 

Ashley Church, the more stoic one cries down to the bewildered sheep, in a suddenly excited screech "Remember to keep buying, as it doubles every 10 years, as interest rates will come down  - eventually" 

And the sheep wandered off feeling much relief with their financial futures .... 

Meanwhile Crazy Horse takes a slow drawl on peace pipe and wistfully thinks "what will it take to wise up these sheep and make them realise debt is not wealth". 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I wish there were a downvote option in this website.

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Why. CH is right "debt is not wealth". Its just a suckers play speculating on future inflation reducing its weight, at the detriment of the rest of society. Winter is indeed coming for the over leveraged.

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And My bet is Season 10 will be more of a let down for most here.

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Well put. That is why claiming interest as an expense is pure rubbish- you are bringing future money into the present where it is worth more, and paying a premium to do so. The only expense is the difference between the interest rate and inflation rate. 

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Rates were too low for about 3 years. In the reserve bank I would expect their timing to be just as bad going the other way. Dynamism is not something I think of when talking about an organization that fleeced the NZ tax payer to benefit Australian banks for 2 years via the funding for lending program. 

Same people, same incompetence, does anyone really expect a result other than one that benefits the banks.

 

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Dynamism is not something I think of when talking about an organization that fleeced the NZ tax payer to benefit Australian banks for 2 years via the funding for lending program. 

ASB CEO said that FLP was an "investment in NZ", not cheap debt to preserve the Ponzi. 

She's climbed to the top of the pile so society views her as being smarter and more capable than your average bear. 

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Most who have a clue laugh or scream at their incompetence or possibly play on it (the banks). Average Joe on the street knows its bad, but does not know who to blame. And as long as their is no external check on the RBNZ, average Joe will never know. 

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Its still gunna be Harder for Longer baby!

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What a muppet.

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I think he's talking about the recession

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Not really. Just a spin on J Powell.  

Higher for Longer, baby! 2020,2021,2022,2023,2024...

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Always two groups of radicals on here , either want to hike the OCR more or cut the OCR tomorrow. I can’t help but think at this point it’s just for the sake of not having the same view as the mainstream economists. It’s going to be pretty funny if we just end up having a softish landing. A slow drip-feed cut (25bp)  from Nov 24/Feb 25 is the move.

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I don't see anything wrong with different viewpoints. However, based on my interactions at the water cooler, the consensus leans towards navigating the debt mountain at the individual, h'hold, and local govt levels. People are largely tapped out and there only appears to be one lever that ameliorates the pain and suffering.   

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Yes majority of views are self interested bias (either personally or professionally or both) as opposed to using any form of utilitarian approach.

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We are all biased, even those who claim to be "Independent"

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The pain is the medicine we need to take. We have already put it off far too long.

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a softish landing requires unemployment to remain pretty much where it is (or rather was, last quarter)....what chance that, even with the exodus of citizens offshore?

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I normally discuss what I think will happen, not what I want to happen. What do I think will happen - inflation well and truly within band by September and the RBNZ way too slow to make meaningful cuts. What do I want to happen - RBNZ cut rates today to 0% just before I fix my mortgage. 

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"Always two groups of radicals on here , either want to hike the OCR more or cut the OCR tomorrow. "

Good comment.

Most Kiwi's love a false dichotomy.

Arguing nonsensically about nonsense 'choices' make them feel 'wise'.

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All indicators in the developed economies seem to be pointing towards firing up the printers, except perhaps Japan. And as for Aussie, the ruling elite doesn't seem to give a rats about inflation anyway. And if something breaks (if it hasn't broken already - a thesis that I think is quite possibly the reality but is not evident to everyone just yet), the central banks will go harder and faster.  

Bring it on. And hope people have their survival strategies worked out. 

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They really couldn't care less about inflation over there, everything is geared to higher house prices and falls are not tolerated. I have an interest over there and the growth is eye-watering.

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They really couldn't care less about inflation over there, everything is geared to higher house prices and falls are not tolerated. I have an interest over there and the growth is eye-watering.

I think eye-watering is an understatement. It makes the Japanese period of property-driven wealth generation look sober. 

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Yep, normally the A$ would be hammered but they have such a strong trade surplus offsetting primary account outflows that it holds very up well against all but the big $.

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Yep, normally the A$ would be hammered but they have such a strong trade surplus offsetting primary account outflows that it holds very up well against all but the big $.

The iron ore price continues to confound me. My conspiracy theory triggers tell me that China can't have the price falling as their stockpiles are too large. Iron ore is debt collateral in China.

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"All indicators in the developed economies seem to be pointing towards firing up the printers". Absolutely spot on. It's what we did last time, and the time before that, and the time before that.... and it always, ALWAYS, ends the same way - a reduction in what Real Wealth most people have. And if 'most people' haven't realised what's happening by now, they will. And then, the Gate of Interest Rate Hades will open as 'they' try to reign in the runaway price rises that are rampaging everywhere. I wonder what the name of the next Paul Volker will be?

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I wonder what the name of the next Paul Volker will be?

Yep, I asked a similar question in early 2021.

Re-Inflation risk will continue to pin Orr to the wall, the next few months of his stewardship will determine how he is remembered.

 

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"... the next few months of his [Orr's] stewardship will determine how he is remembered."

Seriously?

That book is already written. It'll not remember him well. And it'll matter not what he (or they of the MPC) do now.

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No pain no gain, I guess the big gains are coming in 2025.

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Gold? It's already flirting with its ATH in USD and up 14.7% YTD. 

If you're talking about the housing market--about the only asset Nu Zillun cares about--your guess is quite possibly what they're hoping for.  

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Yes, in QLD it's forecast for big jump! 

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A cut in Novembeer is too late for the same reason the rate rise 2 years ago did nothing to slow inflation for 6-9 months -  the effect of any change in OCR won't set in for another 6-9 months when fixed mortgages roll over. 

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The danger of cutting rates too soon is that inflation will re-emerge with the risk of hyper-inflation.

I don't think that many commentators really have any idea what hyperinflation looks like.   If you have a few minutes to spare have a look at the following:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitext/ess_germanhy…

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You think if we had cut rates today we would be at risk of hyperinflation? Seriously?

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I don't think that many people talking about hyperinflation really have any idea about the narrow circumstances in which the phenomenon arises. I'll give you a clue - it always involves countries having massive debts denominated in a more powerful country's currency.  

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I feel like we’d be getting close to hyperinflation if the OCR was still 0.25%. 

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Then, you too, don't understand hyperinflation.

There has never been hyperflation in anything close to our circumstances.

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Id suggest hyperinflation is not (necessarily) triggered thus...it occurs when a currency loses its use/desirability...and that may occur for more than one reason.

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"The danger of cutting rates too soon is that inflation will re-emerge with the risk of hyper-inflation."

Before calling total b.s. on your call ... we'll give you the chance to explain why you believe that is a likely outcome. We can wait.

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Adrian to the housing market "I am sorry but you can't be saved anymore.. Actually, I am not even sorry!"

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Not a popular opinion Moa but I believe if the Ponzi goes, it all goes. 

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I have to say I completely agree with you. Given how our economy is wired, if the private sector starts to repay debt more quickly than we take it out, we're all going down the swanny. Look how reliant we are on that juicy credit money.

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I have to say I completely agree with you. 

I would say you understand it better than me, but perhaps more reticent to highlight worse case scenarios. 

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Net lending dropping and government deficit reducing will drive us into a deep recession. Prepare yourselves as best you can to ride this one out.

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It's nice to think about ... Like winning the lottery is ... But it won't happen.

What will happen is ... a steady, inevitable fall in both nominal and real terms.

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He did warn everyone to not over leverage. Several times. Dti is in place now so let the ponzi burn down a bit and then reduce the Dti threshold to prevent it from being the cancer that it has been over the last ten years.

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Yes. Problem is we're all affected if the levee breaks, regardless if you're late to the party or not. Even those who chose not to join are affected. This is what the ruling elite needs to get into their heads. They're directly affected too. Popularity and also in their hip pocket.  

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Yes, the DTI has been put in to create a brake once rates drop. Good. The sooner we use the right tools to control the housing market the better. Next up - a corridor price system for diesel and petrol!

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Everyone is talking about the residential market. There is another market that is on the point of collapse, and that’s the commercial property market. Shops, offices and factories make up billions and billions of dollars at risk of excessive borrowings. When commercial was fought over if it returned 5 percent net, it was a great deal. Now with mortgages over 7 percent for commercial, not to mention increasing vacancies, expect a rumble by Xmas.  

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Most of the really big players like Precinct are not using enough bank based lending to cause the banks too much trouble.   Its going to hit some Family trusts a bit.    The increased vacancy rate will cause some forced selling for sure.

Commercial issues will be more obvious faster then Resi....          

IMHO the bigger threat is once Commercial has played out, everyone will wake up to the fact that residential is

Way way way way way way overvalued relative to yield.

So the failures in Prime Commercial will flow across into subprime Manurewa, Flat bush 

What can go wrong in a 360 billion dollar book that's around 65% of lending in NZ?

EDIT: BigDaddy - I guess if banks hold cross security on high end Resi then it may also hit Remuera, Fendalton and Herne bay , lending is complicated banks do a lot to extend loans in good times, but insist on decent security.   This thing could have legs....

 

 

 

 

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the values will have an effect on our public companies balance sheets also

 

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Absolutely BD, only people with personal experience in CRE fully understand this.

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Adrian Orr’s legacy will be the eye-watering inflation he caused by overreaching during covid, and then the kneecapping he delivered to the economy when he overreacted to that mistake by keeping rates too high for too long.

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The greatest transfer of wealth seen in NZ, until the baby boomers pop off and pass theirs through.

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The operation was a success; however unfortunately the patient died!

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