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Finance Minister Grant Robertson has been searching for savings as corporate tax revenue falls below Treasury forecast

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Finance Minister Grant Robertson has been searching for savings as corporate tax revenue falls below Treasury forecast
Labour finance minister Grant Robertson walks out of the Beehive Theatrette
Labour finance minister Grant Robertson in the Beehive Theatrette

Wellington’s rumour mill was in full swing on Thursday, with opposition politicians making wild claims about a multi-billion dollar shortfall in the Government’s finances. 

The gossip train appears to have started with a three line statement New Zealand First party leader Winston Peters emailed to media, alleging a $20 billion hole in government revenue.

State Services Commissioner Peter Hughes had reportedly been called into a meeting with Finance Minister Grant Robertson to search for cost savings. 

Robertson confirmed he had met with public service bosses on Wednesday to discuss fiscal sustainability but denied the $20 billion figure — which Peters was unable to back up. 

Act Party leader David Seymour added fuel to the fire with a press release claiming the fiscal hole was “closer to $30 billion”. 

This unrealistic number was reached by calculating the difference between the Treasury's forecast tax revenue and the actual tax receipts received by the end of May.  

In the 11 months ended May, Core Crown tax revenue was 2.1% (or $2.2 billion) below Treasury’s forecast at $103.3 billion. This shortfall was expected to persist to year-end. 

Since the forecast was released in May with the Budget, Treasury would have had access to actual tax data up to March. This means they were only forecasting April, May, and June. 

Total tax receipts were 13.8% behind the forecast in the month of April and another 6.4% in the month of May. A shortfall of about $2.3 billion in only two months. 

Robertson acknowledged there had been softening in Government revenue, as shown in the Crown accounts released in July. The pre-election fiscal update (PREFU) in September would show whether or not that trend would persist.  

An operating deficit of $20 billion in this fiscal year would not be plausible. It was forecast to be $7 billion this fiscal year and $7.6 billion in the next. 

‘Not news’ 

Nathan Penny, an economist at Westpac, said he was expecting the lower tax take to continue and put some pressure on the Government’s finances in the coming years.

“We expect a lower operating balance than in the Budget and a return to surplus a year later than forecast in the Budget,” he said. 

Whichever parties form the next Government, they will face some choices about how to bring the operating allowance back into balance. But there wasn’t an unexpected crisis brewing. 

“This is not news to us, it is not news to the Treasury. It’s only news because it is the subject of debate in Parliament,” Penny said. 

Westpac was working on a forecast of the Crown accounts which will be released closer to the PREFU in September. 

Penny said it will show a larger operating deficit than Treasury, but it would be “cyclical not structural” — meaning it wouldn’t lead to dangerous debt levels or financial stability risk. 

National sticks to its tax plan

Nicola Willis, the National Party’s finance spokesperson, did not back the multi-billion dollar shortfall accusations, but said she expected the PREFU to show more deficits ahead. 

She said if Robertson was seeking “urgent meetings” to ask public sector bosses to cut costs, then he must have received new information that had worried him. 

“It could be that the Treasury has said its forecasts were far too chipper and things are much worse than we had hoped,” she said. 

National will still release its tax policy prior to the PREFU but its final policy platform won’t be finalised until after it has seen the fresh forecasts. 

Treasury warned in last year’s Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update that higher-than-normal inflation and wage growth would create cost pressures over the next few budgets. 

It also gave some options for what the Government could do if additional funding was required to meet the commitments in Budget 2023. 

These were to reprioritising money from existing services, increase tax revenue, or increase the operating allowance (in essence, use debt to fund services). 

Surplus stayed 

Treasury had forecast a very small operating surplus in 2026, but that seems unlikely with tax revenue so much lower than had been assumed. 

Penny is still expecting a return to surplus the following year, subject to Government policy decisions between now and then. 

Prime Minister Chris Hipkins almost admitted this would be the case during a debate in Parliament on Wednesday. 

National Party leader Christopher Luxon asked if Robertson was correct to forecast a return to surplus in 2025/26.

Hipkins said: “At the time the statement was made, yes”. 

When pressed further on whether he’d received any advice on whether the return to surplus would be delayed again, Hipkins dodged the question.

Minister Moody 

On Thursday, Robertson was quick to point out that global credit rating agency Moody’s Investors Service had given New Zealand its tick of approval this week.

It reaffirmed NZ’s AAA credit rating with a stable outlook, citing a healthy fiscal position compared with its peers.

“The New Zealand government has a strong track record of managing shocks through effective fiscal policy, while demonstrating fiscal discipline over the long term,” it said.

“We expect this discipline to persist, despite substantial economic and fiscal stimulus measures announced in response to the cost-of-living crisis and the pandemic”.

The North Island floods and Cyclone Gabrielle had imposed extra costs on the government, which would result in wider deficits and a slower return to surplus in 2026. 

“We expect the economic slowdown and higher climate-related expenditure to cause a slight delay in the fiscal balance returning to a surplus”. 

While this will cause debt levels to rise, it will “remain well controlled and largely in line with those of similarly rated peers”

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Shows how much you can trust Seymour, and Peters.

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Just enough to vote for one of them ... I just haven't decided which. 

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Perception of a government that is anti business or more so business owners and farmers has now hardened into the reality that if you hamper & suppress these activities, if you penalise success, you shoot yourself in the foot because that’s where other people’s money comes from.

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GR : we wont cut spending - this inflation is imported; GR : emergency meeting - cut down on spending guys; GR : oh gosh there is an election coming don't stop spending; GR : but we are running a rapidly increasing deficit - cut spending !! GR: this is too difficult - where are the consultants..... would be funny if it was not my tax money down the drain

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I suggest you attend one of their meetings. 

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Thanks,  but no thanks. Hard enough to listen to and/or read all the mealy mouthed nothingness without having to witness the attendant flim-flam.

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I mean't Dumbthoughts.

I've had more than one person tell me they were voting ACT , went to one of Seymour's talk , and changed their minds. 2 local farmers had ACT billboards up , after the ACT meeting came to town, the billboards  disappeared. Don't know if its a coincidence or not.

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In truth, my comment was a general expression about the whole damn lot of them.

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Yup, I think most people are thinking that way , i'm quite depressed at the prospects, probably for different reasons.

But I think we are also all expecting too much, we need to knuckle down, and no politican will win telling us that before an election.  

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I'll bite. What bearing does Robertson going looking for cost savings after years of ineffective spend-ups tell me about Seymour and Peters?

Or is it fine for Robertson to cut spending in some areas but no one else? 

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If you read the article above, the shortfall won't be $ 20 billion , let alone $ 30 billion. Seymour simply had to better Peters.

And i would point out that the estimates that were wrong, were Treasurys , or the reserve banks, not Robertsons.  

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Remind me, who reappointed the RBNZ Governor recently?

And who the Minister responsible for Treasury is?

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Treasury is always out on its estimates it only looks backwards when trying to work out forward trajectory 

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Or Grant Robinson 

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I see Robertson was promising a return to surplus in 2026. So $30 billion could be over 3 years, so $10 billion per annum.

Corporate tax is falling off a cliff. Say 20% of revenue is profit, and revenue falls 20% with no reduction in costs, you no longer have a profit.

I work in the healthcare sector, there are service cuts brought about by doctor shortages. Appears Whatu Ora is embracing this, likely to reduce expenditure. Most weeks you see something on a noticeboard "The XXX service has tightened referral criteria, due to a shortage of junior and senior medical staff." There is an exodus of NZ trained doctors to Australia, many I talk to are lining up jobs in Australia. The talk always used to be pay was a lot higher in Australia, but their tax rates were really high, now differential in top rate being 6% is less of impediment.

The government/ Whatu Ora has no idea, they are discussing overseas recruitment, while their senior staff resign. Many senior doctors are really pissed off at the doctors union (Association of Salaried Medical Specialists), for only asking for a 7.2% pay rise, given the Public Sector pay freeze over the last few years. The government turned around and offered them 3%. National /ACT are inheriting an absolute shit show. The huge waits at EDs and Urgent Care clinics, and trouble getting appointments with your GP, are the result of this doctor exodus. Most doctors cannot believe how badly the health service has deteriorated over the last 12 months. At times you feel like you are working in the third world, normally conscientious doctors are taking short cuts, due to excess workload and stress. I'm looking at moving to Australia, as my children have left home (I'm in my late 40s), and my wife and I no longer have faith that if we developed an illness such as cancer, we would receive a reasonable standard of care in NZ. Even if you have private health insurance there are large wait lists, as the public sector is outsourcing to the private sector, due to a shortage of specialists in the public sector.

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So an obvious question. Why with all the inherent problems already existing in the sector, at the frontline the hospitals, and why then with the overwhelming onslaught of a pandemic, why would you direct $billion or so away from those vital areas, and instead into reconstruction of the MoH head office and providing that executive and staff there, with new titles and uniforms and enriching consultants with $miliions. This mismanagement would have to go down as one of the most obtuse, irresponsible and calamitous policy decisions of any NZ government.

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Because when Andrew Little was there, he kept telling us there was no crisis. Maybe he believed that.

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Because there was no crisis. There was a catastrophe. There was just a Little difference...

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Totally agree MJA. I work in the healthcare sector. If the public knew the appalling situation there would be either a mass exodus or a complete meltdown. As it stands it appears that the approach by the 'higher powers' to any problem is  Public : There is a serious problem;  HP (higher power):  Name the problem; Public : Problem named;   HP : okay lets change the NAME......problem gone - happy now?

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Whoa, whao, whao mja! - these stories aren't supposed to come out until the end of the year when Nationals evil cuts have caused all this misery. About the same time sleeping in cars starts being newsworthy again.

"Had it been 2017, and had National been in power, this would likely have had so many retweets it would have got dizzy. But in the twelve hours that followed it going up, it was retweeted only once. Once. By the Child Poverty Action Group (CPAG).

CPAG didn’t hold back. “Touché @bernardchickey”, their tweet commenced, ending: “The state of the nation can be summed up in this headline. The children living in cars are not included in @Stats_NZ child poverty data. Abhorrent, outrageous, unacceptable.”

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/07/22/john-campbell-the-politics-of-povert…

 

 

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Like a whip-round to buy a keg then?      $1 billion each please in the hat

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If nat/act get to power, sorry kids tax reversals are now unavailable, that ponzi restarts going to have to wait. Not our fault. And the cycle continues...

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Prepare for for austerity (unless you are a Chinese road builder).

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Or a landlord that is about to get mortgage interest deductions back and brightline reduced to 2 years...the 'hole' will be getting bigger...even less tax income...

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As I said several months ago, a few billion a year of GST revenue alone could be lost from a house building slump.

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Really Dan? We have have been here before with "I've spent the lot" Cullen. This is just a rerun of 2008. Labour know they are gone so are gutting the place to hand a poisoned chalice to the next suckers.

"Former cabinet ministers are insisting they were under no obligation to reveal a $1 billion hole in the ACC budget before the election and deny Government accusations of a cover-up."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/745481/1b-ACC-hole-Labour-say…

"Having spent taxpayers' money like a drunken sailor to stay in power, Labour left office in 2008 with surplus having turned to deficit through the combination of a domestic downturn and the global financial downturn.

National had barely got its feet under the Cabinet table before the Treasury further revised its forecasts and projected deficits of $6 billion-plus.

So much for "careful management". Labour is relying on short memories to rewrite history, however. It won't fool everybody."

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/john-armstrong-labour-grabs-init…

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If you want to know the details, here is a good link - https://ojs.victoria.ac.nz/pq/article/view/4316/3818

As I understand it, it was all a storm in a teacup, created by changing how ACC needs to account for its future liabilities. A manufactured crisis.

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there was also a world dip in sharemarkets at the time because of the GFC and that is where ACC puts its money so of course the value of their investments dipped but then they recovered even better the next year. as usual national have no knowledge of investing outside of houses or farms so could not understand what was happening, i always have a chuckle when people put them forward as better money managers than the other mob as they are just as bad

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spending is not the problem, had nothing to show for it after 6 years is insulting.

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There is plenty happening in the region where I live, for example, https://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/te-ahu-a-turanga/

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A government budget deficit must equal a private sector surplus as sectoral balances describes. If the government is taxing back less of the currency that it has spent then the private sector must be increasing its savings or paying down its debt and some will be going into financing our current account deficit and will then be held offshore. This is shown by the sectoral balance accounting identity (S-I) = (G-T) + (X-M).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectoral_balances

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Grant Robertson asleep at the wheel...and now he is panicking!!

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Asleep in the bath  more like it, and now he is drowning.

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Surprising the number of commentators who have been sucked in by the lies of Willis, Seymour and Peters over the reduced company tax revenue.

Bernard Hickey explains at length why this is a non-issue.

https://open.substack.com/pub/thekaka/p/the-fiscal-black-hole-talk-actu…

 

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